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Louis Midgley Louis Midgley • 2 days ago
It seems that it has never entered his head that having a fullness does not entail others having much that can be appreciated and deserves praise.
This might just be one of Midgley's glitched sentences. Maybe he intended an awkward double negative, "does not entail others NOT having much" and forgot the second "not". Or maybe he meant "preclude" instead of "entail".

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Good point, he really mixes up the grammar sometimes. Based on the topic at hand, he could be implying that others have done good things with religion, which were good in the sense that his church was then able to use and build upon them in order to restore the “right” version of religion. Still pretty arrogant.

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Moksha • 3 days ago
We know that Jesus was not Scandinavian or Western European, even though he has been portrayed as such in our approved artwork. He probably looked very Semitic, with no Vikings in the woodpile.

Louis Midgley Moksha • 2 days ago
I love it when Moksha uses the word "our" in one of his jokes.

Moksha Louis Midgley • 2 days ago • edited
I love it when Moksha uses the word "our" in one of his jokes.
Louis, the Jesus of "your" artwork is probably an angry green-scaled alien. Otherwise, Jesus would be as Semitic as his ancestors.

Louis Midgley Moksha • 2 days ago • edited
To begin to grasp at least part of the reason Moksha, who seeks to be and is widely celebrated as a jolly, fun-filled fellow, claims that the Jesus of my "artwork is probably an angry green-scaled alien," one needs to know that on 22-26 April he was among those who made the following remarks about me on Geina Colvin's Kiwi Mormon Patheos blog: "I was described as "creepy," as a "creepy stalker," of being a "disingenuous stalker," of "perverted behavior," of being a "conscience-less creep," "a disgusting, mean, and angry old man," with "a long and well-documented history of nastiness, personal attacks and stalking." With 400 documented instances, yet.

I was also accused of having "made up lie after lie that her [Gina Colvin's] husband wanted to meet me." Then accused of being "mean-spirited," and of "vile behavior," and "boorish behavior," and again of being a "creepy stalker. "Midgley is a disgusting excuse for a human being. He is a creep and perverted beyond belief." And he is guilty of "un-Christian like behavior," and he is involved in the "blood-thirsty culture of Mopologists" (whatever that is). I am "quite simply a mean spirited and tremendously unkind bigot," full of "rudeness."

I am advised to "stop trolling and slither back to [my] cesspool known as sic et non." I am also "dishonest." And "I did not complete the course work for my Ph.D. in political science." I am "frequently dishonest, mean-spirited, racist, and highly offensive." And "Dan [Peterson] protects me and allows me to egregiously violate Patheos rules."

This may help those not fortunately not familiar with the real Moksha, and his amusing speculation about "the Jesus of [my] artwork."

DanielPeterson a day ago
Stop it, Moksha. You already have a Hate-Midgley site. This isn't it.

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Aww, Moksha, I think you’re growing on the Midge! Although why he thought everyone needed a reminder of how he stalked Colvin in order to understand your reference is beyond me. Anyone who reads him for more than a few days gets all the information necessary to understand his approach. Add in his posts on Colvin’s blog and he’s got a slam-dunk on his hands!

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You know, Lemmie, I would be very cordial to Professor Midgley since I like older people, if he didn't constantly try to put me down. I think he was genuinely surprised that so many posters sprung to Gina's defense when he tried pulling his shenanigans on her blog. I suppose I am the only one he can lash out at even if my contribution to that posting barrage was small and inconsequential.

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From the midge. In medical and psychology terms it is very close to “word salad” so at least in his little mind Mosksha is equal to the individual who carried out the Christchurch massacre. Good grief Peterson put a muzzle on your little pet.
For reasons I will not go into, except to say that they were deepened by what happened after my recent glorious Sunday in Christchurch, New Zealand, where I met some people, and was able to talk our guide into taking us to one of those two Mosques where that fellow killed over fifty people and wounded even more, I find Moksha utterly disgusting.
Professor Peterson understands why I am more than a little troubled by certain utterly reprehensible people.

Further along.

Dr. Exiled looked at DNA? Really? How? Whose opinion? Like Dr. Velho Burrinho (aka Little Old Donkey) did, when he bought Simon Southerton hook line and stinker?
No midget I read Southerntons book years after I came to my own conclusions on the subject. All you know about DNA, and genetics is the stuff Perego spoon fed to you guys and the brethren so he could get a job.

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It's too bad Midgley can't find a way to demonstrate Sr. Southerton is a fake Dr. Then he would have all the evidence he needed against DNA..... I mean it's perfect Donald Trump logic. DNA refutes soundly the Book of Mormon peoples. A fake Dr uses DNA to show the Book of Mormon is made up. Therefore, the Book of Mormon is true actually because there is a fake Dr. using DNA to refute the Book of Mormon!

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moksha wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 3:51 am
You know, Lemmie, I would be very cordial to Professor Midgley since I like older people, if he didn't constantly try to put me down. I think he was genuinely surprised that so many posters sprung to Gina's defense when he tried pulling his shenanigans on her blog. I suppose I am the only one he can lash out at even if my contribution to that posting barrage was small and inconsequential.
I agree, I think he must have been surprised, why else would he keep posting and re-posting those comments about himself? He can’t seem to fathom that people really do think those things about him, so he keeps bringing them up because he thinks they illustrate how persecuted he is. And yes, I think he is picking on you right now, not because it is you, but because your participation currently provides a path to facilitate bringing up the topic Of his “persecution,” or whatever wrong against him he is obsessing over.

This, however, is just bizarre:
Midgley:

For reasons I will not go into, except to say that they were deepened by what happened after my recent glorious Sunday in Christchurch, New Zealand, where I met some people, and was able to talk our guide into taking us to one of those two Mosques where that fellow killed over fifty people and wounded even more, I find Moksha utterly disgusting.

Professor Peterson understands why I am more than a little troubled by certain utterly reprehensible people.
Wow. What a horrible thing to say. Moksha, I am so sorry you were the recipient of that. If it helps any, I think he would have said that about whoever was the current recipient of his obsessive bullying.

Midgley seems to have no self-awareness of his own reprehensibility, but surely Peterson knows that comment goes too far. It is his blog, and it reflects on him and his religion that he lets a BYU professor emeritus post nonsense like that on a blog ostensibly supporting the LDS position.

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It must be utterly shocking when reality slaps that little lying ____ squarely on the cheek. He’s been protected for far too long from the real consequences of his idiotic behavior. He needs the little bubbles in which he can incubate his hatefulness, and when they are occasionally popped by someone who doesn’t feel the need to protect his sensibilities it’s utterly astonishing to him. I have a feeling he was indulged as a boy, and that’s the reason why he was shocked by Army personnel who probably thought he was a little weirdo, by Maori who didn’t recognize his amazing-ness, and by people outside Mormonism who snort at his oddball behavior.

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Wow, Midgley's legendary anger is on full display! I always thought Moksha had a knack for keeping things light-hearted. I got a kick out of his comment that Midgley responded to and I think his use of the word "fatwa" was entirely correct. Kiwi57 upvoted Midgley's response and interestingly, so did Sam LeFevered. But I didn't see DCP upvote it yet. I find that interesting because Midgley specifically said DCP would understand why he feels the way he does about Moksha. I mean, couldn't DCP give Midgley a quick acknowledgement via upvote that he is correct? If he refuses to upvote, could we conclude that DCP doesn't understand Midgley's -- let's face it, in this instance, utterly psychotic -- feelings?

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but surely Peterson knows that comment goes too far. It is his blog, and it reflects on him and his religion that he lets a BYU professor emeritus post nonsense like that on a blog ostensibly supporting the LDS position.
Peterson knows a lot more about how phony everything he stands for than he will ever acknowledge. He fools no one, even himself. He's fake, Midgley is fake. It's why they bloviate or let bloviating substitute for the Gospel of Love they so hypocritically proclaim they believe in. They certainly do not live it. Through the years of watching their interactions I have grown in appreciation for some form of higher power (my own inborn intelligence?) which opened my eyes to the clear stupidity Mormonism churns out, and the insipid idiocy of its apologists. HALLELUJAH I no longer have to try to defend that in order to be "faithful." CHORTLE!
Moksha obviously is entirely misunderstood by the Maori loving idiot missionary who pretends he is their savior called Midgley and whose new name from the temple would not surprise me if it was "idiot." If it was a full name it would be Idiot S. Moron. The "S" I would put as Stupid. No one else anywhere misunderstands Moksha. The only two who are so dense they can't "get it" are the two Mormon apologists.
And for Pete sake all the ridiculous whining about everyone seeing them as evil. We don't see you as evil you morons, we see you being, acting, and talking stupid. We see stupidity, not evil. My gawd the inane lament that everyone looks at them as evil is dumb. You aren't evil, you're dumb as dirt, stupid, witless. Look the words up, they have nothing to do with being evil you dopes. We aren't persecuting you and hating you, we are laughing at you and acknowledging where the real stupid in Mormonism lies these days. We don't hate stupid, we just have no reason to respect it. Only stupid people think they are hated when others show the stupid they exude. You exude stupid, not evil. You are not persecuted, you are too stupid to know the laughter about you and the stupid way you write really biased, stupid book reviews and publish over the top actual stupid papers imagining it is scholarly to stupidly put forth 688 quick papers a month instead of just one solid, well written, argued, and excellent paper a month. Big numbers impress you. It's stupid. Notice also stupid is not spelled e-v-i-l. It's rather stupid to confuse the two.

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Louis Midgley Michael Hoggan • 3 hours ago • edited.

...I have even tried living abroad, but there are those who claim that this was only to stalk people, whatever that means....

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4921171217
Lou-Lou the MidgeFly cracks me up. I have a friend like him who likes to tell flamboyant stories about her experiences. Her husband used to joke that with every telling of every story, every fact “increased.” The participants got taller, the crowd got bigger, the length of time got longer, the cash value of the event increased, etc. In general, the overall impact on the universe ballooned with every telling.

Midgley seems to have that same exaggeration tic. No story can ever be re-told without another layer of inflation.

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Lou-Lou the MidgeFly cracks me up. I have a friend like him who likes to tell flamboyant stories about her experiences. Her husband used to joke that with every telling of every story, every fact “increased.” The participants got taller, the crowd got bigger, the length of time got longer, the cash value of the event increased, etc. In general, the overall impact on the universe ballooned with every telling.

Midgley seems to have that same exaggeration tic. No story can ever be re-told without another layer of inflation.
Lou learned well with his brainwashing into Mormonism concerning how his hero Joseph Smith did it. If it was good enough for him, it's good enough for Midgley. Bearing of testimony needs to be enhanced lest normal things are believed not. Therefore, like his prophet, Midgley inflates everything as he goes. Who actually knows? An angel with a flaming sword may very well have visited Midgley, only his had a 7 foot long sword, not a mere ancient Nephite 5 foot long sword. Only it's too sacred for Midgley to discuss, and certainly will be denied if he is pressed to tell the truth. :rolleyes:

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Did the lying little sack of crap Midgley just doxx YBT?

“I wasted hours yesterday trying to convince on prickly scholar that I was in full agreement on how he pictures himself, though I think he has the wrong agenda. It seems that if I do not agree with his agenda, I have, either intentionally or unintentionally misinterpreted him.

Why are not Wayfarer25, Yakov ben Tov (aka actually Colby Townsend), and Gadianton P. Robbers again busy down-voting my comment?”

Did YBT use his real name and give permission to be outed?

Also, he continues to stalk Ms. Colvin:

“First: I feel sorry for Gina Colvin. She has over fifteen years marched right out of the community of Saints to seek what she calls woman's spirituality here and now. She has recently discovered that she does not give a thought to life after life, but spirituality here and now. She was pleased to discover when she had a long conversation with a Community of Christ Apostle that he and that flock don't think of life after life, but also just feeling good about themselves here and now.”

What in THE ____ is his deal with her? I don’t get it.

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Gadianton wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 10:05 pm
But I didn't see DCP upvote it yet. I find that interesting because Midgley specifically said DCP would understand why he feels the way he does about Moksha. I mean, couldn't DCP give Midgley a quick acknowledgement via upvote that he is correct? If he refuses to upvote, could we conclude that DCP doesn't understand Midgley's -- let's face it, in this instance, utterly psychotic -- feelings?
I think Dr. Peterson read your post and he is now giving me more downvotes. Downvoting helps serve as a catharsis for valiant Sic et Non poster's inner demons.

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Moksha,

It's all to easy for him to downvote you. That takes no guts whatsoever. What would prove his loyalty is upvoting the Midgley quote above. Did he upvote that comment yet?

Let's just say, for the sake of not betraying confidences, that I know some things. Hey, he always claims to know things and expects everyone to believe him, right?

For him to upvote that clear comment by Midgley comparing you to terrorists in New Zealand, while at the same time saying "Prof. P. understands" -- lol -- that would be something for him to publicly support.

The reason why I don't think he will is that despite what he thinks everyone thinks around here, I think he has too much integrity to upvote that comment. As for Mr. M? Well, lack of integrity is potentially a factor, but it's not the only potential factor. A huge potential factor is that M is a hot-head who flies off the handle when he feels cornered, and he feels cornered very easily. His anger brought him way over the line with that comment. Prof P. on the other hand, sure, he gets bent out of shape, but he's a standard deviation to the left of M. in terms of blurting out his feelings at the moment no matter how inappropriate. For one apologist, there is a potential mitigating circumstance for making the comment. For another apologist, upvoting the comment would require a calculated will-to-vengeance that I think, fortunately is beyond the grasp of that apologist. Let me know if I'm wrong and an upvote has taken place. I forgot the thread.

As for the other two who upvoted it, one is even angrier, although has the greatest capacity of all the apologists over there for analytical thought, while the other is kind of a ditz and probably only halfway read or thought about what he was signing off on. Just voting down party lines.

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Gadianton wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 10:22 pm
For him to upvote that clear comment by Midgley comparing you to terrorists in New Zealand, while at the same time saying "Prof. P. understands" -- lol -- that would be something for him to publicly support.
Dr. Peterson replied that Louis Midgley either did not say that or did not intend that meaning. I think he realizes that Midgley's temper is getting the better of him subsequent to age.

Let me give a bit of an example below:

Moksha • a day ago
While it was a noble gesture in suggesting the money go to those needing it the most, half of that money was earmarked for the students. What measure do we think the Church will go through to help the students at the various BYU campuses?

Philip Leaning Moksha • a day ago
Well, I happen to know that BYUH flew its foreign students back to their home countries at the university's own cost when the school locked down.

DanielPeterson Mod Philip Leaning • a day ago
I didn't know that.

Amazing.

Greedy church!

Philip Leaning DanielPeterson • a day ago
BYUH will also pay for their flights back to the campus for Fall Semester.

DanielPeterson Mod Philip Leaning • a day ago
Really impressive, I think.

Philip Leaning DanielPeterson • a day ago • edited
Yes, I agree, I was very impressed when I heard but not surprised. Obviously not all the foreign students would have needed that, but VERY many would have.

Moksha Philip Leaning • 21 hours ago
That was a nice thing to do.

Philip Leaning Moksha • 20 hours ago
I agree

Louis Midgley Moksha • 15 hours ago
If Moksha would like to do what he calls "a nice thing," he will cease posting on sic et non. And it will not cost him a single dime.

Even simple things will trigger him. Hope time does not find him standing outside yelling at the mailbox.

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The lying little sack of crap Midgley continues to retcon history and moan like a little whipped toddler about his experience with stalking Colvin and then bragging about it on her blog(!):

“Group hug indeed! I got to experience a "group hug" by Moksha and his friends when I made the mistake of posting a little note to Gina Colvin on her Patheos "Kiwi Mormon" blog after I had met and immediately befriended her husband in a Latter-day Saint meeting that the Christchurch Stake President, with the knowledge and approval of the Pacific Area President, had made sure would take place.

Moksha was right there blasting away at me on Gina Colvin's blog. One Dunce even urged the "Colvins" not to have anything to do with me. He did not notice that Colvin is not her husband's surname. Others claimed that I was lying about Gina Colvin's husband wanting to meet me. So I have a good idea about what Moksha has in mind by a "group hug."”

I’ve never seen an adult whine and cry as much as Midgley who is AGHAST that, in the real world, people aren’t going to take his ____ sitting down. Look what happens to the little troll when he creeps out from underneath the safety of Dan’s skirt from his little troll cave in Provo. BYU professor. Mormon priesthood holder. Extended adolescent.

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Also, one should note the pugnacious little sidekick known as Louis Midgley continues to doxx YBT. I won’t post it here out of respect to the doxxed individual. What a raging piece of crap the Midge is.

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Speaking of retcons of history, how about this new one?
Midgley:

And this drew the attention of Taylor Petrey because Aussie Noel just happened to mention that the Reverend Walters thought that he had refuted an essay by Hugh Nibley, and hence there was presumably no apostasy. This drew the attention of Taylor Petrey. And the fur began to fly. I was accused of misinterpreting Taylor Petrey.

I have discovered that one misinterprets Taylor Petrey unless one quote an entire essay he wrote about his opinion of a "chapter"--that is, a patch of text plucked out of a 400+ page of very rough notes. Subsequently I have urged everyone to read his brief essay in the now cancelled Studies in the Bible and Antiquity, and I have also done my very best to advertise Dr. Petrey's full academic works and his own understanding of himself in his own words.

I am pleased that this Taylor Petrey thing has calmed down. I have learned one this from this bount of what I will call the Petreys, he is prickly.
The projection (he is prickly) at the end is pretty funny, but it has clearly become a truism that every Midgley story has to end with a projected attribute. His rewriting of how this episode started is just a flat out untruth, however.

Petrey is still the consummate professional compared to Midgley’s thoroughly unprofessional approach; here is the end of his final post on the matter:
Petrey:

Rather, the issue has been whether I "argued that Nibley was not into the current ways" of doing such scholarship and whether or not my characterization of the field in general reduced it my particular subfield alone. I did not and I do not. So, your description of my argument about Nibley and your description of how I characterized the field in general are both incorrect, in addition to the numerous other mischaracterizations you've made since ("chapter," "mock," etc.). My personal research agenda had nothing to do with my evaluation of Nibley in my brief piece and is totally irrelevant to my description of his work in the piece you were discussing, so it certainly does not help your case.

There are many gullible readers, but I admit some surprise at just how gullible you think the readers of this blog thread are. I hold you no ill will, and I am grateful that you've said that you will be more accurate in the future when describing my essay. All the best.

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That little lying sack of crap, Louis “stolen valor” Midgley, continues to take aim at Moksha hoping to get his spiritual guru to ban him from his own little cesspool:

“ I was stunned to just now read Moksha defending his own recent disgusting behavior on Gina Colvin's blog. And I am delighted that Professor Peterson responded.

I never announced that I intended to "stalk" Gina Colvin. I never announced that I intended to "stalk" Gina Colvin. If the world "stalking" has any real meaning, it describes something that is a crime. I don't stalk people.

The world of those who infest a certain board is dramatically unlike that of those who strive to be faithful Latter-day Saints, who strive to worship God by doing good for all people, and to the very best of their ability, telling the truth about how things really are. Those who come to sic et non to sneer and smear have other motives.”

As we know, one of that dude’s primary reasons for his recent trip was to specifically seek out Gina Colvin, at her home Ward, and to let her know who he was and talk to her about... something? THAT is stalking. Worse, yet. He found her HUSBAND and glad-handed him in perhaps one of the most bizarre moments of this “soldier for Jesus”’s history. Think about it. He travelled halfway across the world with the thought in his peabrain that it’d not only be a good idea to do this, but then to ____ publish that he’d done it.

What. In. THE. ____. Is wrong with these people?

And OF COURSE Mr. Peterson endorses this bizarre obsessive behavior. BYU professors. Mormon priesthood holders. Stalkers.

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