New sex drought threatens SS, Medicare, the GDP, the future (Politico report) and more Autism. Young adults are scared.

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New sex drought threatens SS, Medicare, the GDP, the future (Politico report) and more Autism. Young adults are scared.

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I think overpopulation is a problem, but the problem in the US is underpopulation.
Perhaps the least surprising, but most damaging, consequence of the recent decline in sex is that the nation’s birth rate continues to fall to near record lows. In the wake of the Great Recession, births in the United States plunged. But even as the economy has improved, births have continued to decrease since 2014 among women under 30. These birth declines among young women have far outpaced modest birth increases among women 30 and older. This has brought the projected total fertility rate to a 38-year low in the United States: 1.77 children per women for 2017.

Another consequence, then, of the sexual counter-revolution is likely to be continuing declines in American births, with all that entails for the long-term health of the labor force and taxpayer base. Over time, absent increases in immigration, continuing declines in births will translate into fewer workers and consumers—which, in turn, will mean reduced economic growth, less entrepreneurial activity, and a declining ratio of taxpayers to retirees, spelling trouble for the solvency of programs like Medicare and Social Security.

To be honest, we are not sure if sex will keep declining. The sexual pendulum could start swinging in a different direction. But if it doesn’t—if the rate that people are having real sex continues to fall... then the United States could end up in danger of following a relational and economic path already pioneered by Japan.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... sex-216953
New parents tend to be older in general. The average age of first-time mothers is 26, up from 21 in 1972, and for fathers it’s 31, up from 27.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... e-gap.html
It showed that men in their 30s were 1.6 times as likely to have a child with autism as men younger than 30.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html

Jesus Christ! Only technology can save us. I just hope not to be old when I become a parent, perhaps I should freeze my sperm.
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Not a "singles" topic. It is a serious threat and autism rates will increase by a lot and more people will blame vaccines.

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A sex drought is not as bad as it seems. Oils serve as a lubricant, and can add to the fun.

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That's all I really have to say. You're gettin' on my nerves over there, DT.

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China sought to address this problem of generational imbalance by lifting the one-child policy. If the US were more authoritarian it could seek to remedy this problem by declaring everyone to be Mormon (and lifting the ban on coffee).

Freezing your sperm is a matter for you to decide Doubting Thomas. Be careful when you apply those dry ice packs.

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In addition to being unconscionably cruel and bigoted, the Trump administration's anti-immigration policies make very poor economic sense, given the low and still declining U.S Birthrate, which is already below the required replacement rate. We are going to increasingly need more immigration to provide enough new workers to replace the increasing percentage of older workers who are reaching retirement age or dying off, and provide enough tax revenue to adequately fund essential government functions and services, including fixing our aging and dangerously crumbling infrastructure. Despite the xenophobic and insanely bigoted views of incompetent white supremacists like Steven Miller, our country needs more, not fewer immigrants. It doesn't matter what their race or skin color.

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Gunnar wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 2:38 am
In addition to being unconscionably cruel and bigoted, the Trump administration's anti-immigration policies make very poor economic sense, given the low and still declining U.S Birthrate, which is already below the required replacement rate.
Exactly! The Democrats need to aggressively make that point! Most voters only care about the economy. The Politico article blames MeToo (young adults are scared), a bad economy, STD overreaction, and MTV for the sex drought and lower child birth rates.
moksha wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 11:01 pm
Freezing your sperm is a matter for you to decide Doubting Thomas
I will have to.
Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:57 pm
That's all I really have to say. You're gettin' on my nerves over there, DT.
I am sorry Jersey Girl, but SS is in a lot of trouble, and that was before the sex drought. Aren't you worried about SS retirement? And it is predictable that autism will go up.
Some Schmo wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:32 pm
A sex drought is not as bad as it seems. Oils serve as a lubricant, and can add to the fun.
It's not a joke. The sex drought is real. Look it up.

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After World War II we had a baby boom. During wars we tend to have a baby bust. I don't think the end of the species is near. There could definitely be a 1-2 year demographic dip for Love During the Time of Covid-19.

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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:44 pm
... perhaps I should freeze my sperm.
Just remember that you must thaw it before using.

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This is an example of your upbringing getting in your way. You keep treating a study or something a scientist says as scripture. And you treat technology as Jesus.

Here’s an example: What percentage of people in the study of people signing up for the Israeli army had autism?

Why are you worrying today that there won’t be enough people to do the jobs that you believe won’t exist because of robots? And why do you expect “technology” to be the magic answer?

Sit down with the numbers and figure out how many way there are to address future shortfalls in SS and Medicare.

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 3:57 pm
Why are you worrying today that there won’t be enough people to do the jobs that you believe won’t exist because of robots?
There won't be enough taxpayers in 20 years, and that could be a problem unless the system changes. I do think the robots should take over many jobs, and we will need UBI.
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Fri May 22, 2020 3:57 pm
And why do you expect “technology” to be the magic answer?
Because technology did improve the world and did solve many problems.

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Last I checked, we don’t have a head tax. So why does the number of taxpayers matter?

But, according to one source you posted, people are having less sex because of technology. How will technology solve problems created by technology?

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 10:15 pm
Last I checked, we don’t have a head tax. So why does the number of taxpayers matter?

But, according to one source you posted, people are having less sex because of technology. How will technology solve problems created by technology?
What if folks have sex WITH technology will that help?

Sorry! :lol:

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canpakes wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 5:30 pm
DoubtingThomas wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:44 pm
... perhaps I should freeze my sperm.
Just remember that you must thaw it before using.
I usually put the microwave on DEFROST for 30 seconds.

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 10:15 pm
Last I checked, we don’t have a head tax. So why does the number of taxpayers matter?
I don't know, but I did quote Politico "declining ratio of taxpayers to retirees". But I guess it won't matter because automation will take over many jobs. The solution is to raise taxes and heavily tax corporations. I just hope the US is ready to do it in 20 years.
Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 10:15 pm
But, according to one source you posted, people are having less sex because of technology. How will technology solve problems created by technology?
I think technology is doing far more good than harm. Technology could reverse aging in the future. I do think technology has the potential to solve many problems.

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 3:57 pm
Why are you worrying today that there won’t be enough people to do the jobs that you believe won’t exist because of robots?
The simple solution here will be the elite killing off the masses of people they no longer need. :twisted:

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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 5:24 pm
Technology could reverse aging in the future. I do think technology has the potential to solve many problems.
Would this not solve the problem of people not having enough children? I would think that if most people reverse their aging we would have to have a LOT less children to keep populations from really getting out of control

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Themis wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:05 am
Would this not solve the problem of people not having enough children? I would think that if most people reverse their aging we would have to have a LOT less children to keep populations from really getting out of control
Mars?

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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:27 pm
Themis wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 9:05 am
Would this not solve the problem of people not having enough children? I would think that if most people reverse their aging we would have to have a LOT less children to keep populations from really getting out of control
Mars?
If most people don't age you have probably taken away the majority of the ways we die. If people are having kids even at the low numbers we are doing in western countries you would have real problems of over population. Creating new spaces (Mars) only delays the problem for a while.

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I have a hard time imagining a world where the aging process can be reversed, and that is made available to everyone.

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honorentheos wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:44 am
I have a hard time imagining a world where the aging process can be reversed, and that is made available to everyone.
Most don't think about it, but as long as we don't destroy ourselves it is almost a certainty. I suspect those being born today will see this eventuality, and it's availability will be a major problem. The elites like the Putin's and Trump's of the world will use it and probably try to control access. Since machines will be doing all the work the elites will probably start to think we need to get rid of some of the excess population. The ajax's of the world we give them the power to do so, and will regret it once the see that while they were not the first on that list, they were always on the list. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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