Flynn Walks

The Off-Topic forum for anything non-LDS related, such as sports or politics. Rated G through PG-13.
Post Reply
User avatar
Icarus
Apostle
Posts: 795
Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:01 pm

Flynn Walks

Post by Icarus »

Because the rule of law is just something we bring up when we're mad at Democrats and dark people.

User avatar
moksha
God
Posts: 21832
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:42 pm

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by moksha »

Apparently Criminal Presidents are empowered to let their criminal confederates escape the law.

User avatar
MissTish
God
Posts: 1476
Joined: Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:17 am

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by MissTish »

I hope Gulen is adding additional security today, now thst Flynn has been deemed untouchable

EAllusion
God
Posts: 17899
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:39 am

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by EAllusion »

[quote]Apparently Criminal Presidents are empowered to let their criminal confederates escape the law.[/quote]

One of the more important takeaways here is how free they feel to be so openly corrupt at this point. Not even a fig leaf involved. You don't get to this level of brazenness in a mafia state without the ruling regime feeling a certain level of impunity. Those feelings don't come from nowhere.

The next logical step is prosecuting political enemies on thin pretexts. We've seen how this goes in enough other nations to get to be Cassandras during our own fall.

User avatar
ajax18
God
Posts: 6354
Joined: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:56 pm

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by ajax18 »

Yeah, I know. Flynn broke the law under the Logan Act of 1779. How awful.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... osecution/
The next logical step is prosecuting political enemies on thin pretexts. We've seen how this goes in enough other nations to get to be Cassandras during our own fall.
You made your beds with these precedents. It's time sleep in them. It's time to bring the filthy dirty deep state dirty cops to justice. You still want to play hardball?

EAllusion
God
Posts: 17899
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:39 am

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by EAllusion »

[quote]You made your beds with these precedents. It's time sleep in them. It's time to bring the filthy dirty deep state dirty cops to justice. You still want to play hardball?[/quote]

That didn't happen. What does happen is fascists yourself invent fictitious abuses and then use them to justify doing actual versions of them. You're relishing getting to play "hardball" secure that you won't have to hang from the gallows like your fellow-travelers have done in the past. And that's probably true, in the short term anyway, but you don't get to gloat and celebrate without people recognizing you for what you are.

Flynn's prosecution, that he pled guilty to, is not based on the Logan Act, by the way.

User avatar
moksha
God
Posts: 21832
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:42 pm

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by moksha »

EAllusion wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 2:57 pm
Flynn's prosecution, that he pled guilty to, is not based on the Logan Act, by the way.
You can't expect Breitbart to get things right. Breitbart exists to provide information to dedicated mudball players.

EAllusion
God
Posts: 17899
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:39 am

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by EAllusion »

On a related note, there's this:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... phone-call

Besides Trump reverting to calling the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election a "hoax" it also contains a quote from Trump promising a lot of things to come of it in the next few weeks.

Imagine if the impeachment inquiry was still going on. Heck, imagine if Congress actually was in session and not run by ostriches.

User avatar
Dr. Shades
Founder & Visionary
Posts: 14130
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:07 pm

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by Dr. Shades »

I never watch the news, so . . . Flynn met with the Russian Ambassador, and that's the charge he was brought up on, right?

EAllusion
God
Posts: 17899
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:39 am

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by EAllusion »

[quote="Dr. Shades" post_id=1223919 time=1588894549 user_id=4]
I never watch the news, so . . . Flynn met with the Russian Ambassador, and that's the charge he was brought up on, right?
[/quote]

He lied about his contacts with the Russian ambassador during the course of an FBI investigation into those contacts. These weren't mere inconsistencies, but systematic lies. He is known to have been discussing lifting sanctions against Russia, which is the most serious thing he lied about, when there is a ton of background evidence Trump's circle was attempting to trade election interference on their behalf for sanctions relief. Because he refused to give up any info on Trump due to convenient and implausible lapses of memory, the Mueller investigation dead-ended on that specific point. On a separate matter, he also was acting as an unregistered foreign agent of Turkey that was plotting to have an American citizen kidnaped and extradited to Turkey where he would face imprisonment along with possible torture and death. He wasn't charged for that as part of his plea bargain.

He pled into a lesser felony of lying to the FBI, to which he apologized for on multiple occasions.

One FBI agent had in their notes a reference to possibly investigating Logan Act violations, but that was not the basis for any prosecution of Flynn. Ajax and his sources, like Flynn, are just lying liars.

What's happening is the Trump admin is subverting the neutrality of law to make it so people may commit crimes on his behalf with impunity. It's literal dictatorship stuff.

EAllusion
God
Posts: 17899
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:39 am

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by EAllusion »

CBS gave Barr a softball, Fox News style propaganda interview on this:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/attorney-g ... ranscript/

User avatar
ajax18
God
Posts: 6354
Joined: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:56 pm

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by ajax18 »

The FBI knew Flynn was not guilty of anything when they laid a trap for him. EAllusion was closer to the truth at the time when he said don't talk to the FBI without your lawyer even if you know you did nothing wrong. This a good example of why and good advice for anyone in the post constitutional age of criminalizing political opinion.

Now we must hold the deep state accountable. It's not enough just to drop the charges.

User avatar
Icarus
Apostle
Posts: 795
Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:01 pm

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by Icarus »

ajax18 wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 6:52 pm
The FBI knew Flynn was not guilty of anything when they laid a trap for him. EAllusion was closer to the truth at the time when he said don't talk to the FBI without your lawyer even if you know you did nothing wrong. This a good example of why and good advice for anyone in the post constitutional age of criminalizing political opinion.

Now we must hold the deep state accountable. It's not enough just to drop the charges.
More idiotic assertions that have been debunked. Go back to your bubble.

User avatar
ajax18
God
Posts: 6354
Joined: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:56 pm

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by ajax18 »

Flynn has to sell his house just to pay the legal fees for this political witch hunt. Justice will be served when Comey's pension is confiscated to make Flynn whole again.

User avatar
honorentheos
God
Posts: 10517
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:17 pm

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by honorentheos »

I had heard about the FBI report that was given to Flynn's attorneys showing potential issues that certainly called into question their motives and handling of the case.

It's a tough one. On the one hand, it's Flynn and he is slimy AF. On the other hand, I tend to be a bit understanding of obviously guilty people getting set free on technicalities when procedural malfeasence and investigative bias are involves. It's the price a society plays for protecting citizens from abuses of justice.

The real issue is how it then undermines trust in the justice system and throws open the door for more retaliatory abuses rather than acts as a corrective.

User avatar
honorentheos
God
Posts: 10517
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:17 pm

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by honorentheos »

ajax18 wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 7:09 pm
Flynn has to sell his house just to pay the legal fees for this political witch hunt. Justice will be served when Comey's pension is confiscated to make Flynn whole again.
Case in point. Nothing Ajax says here is really about making society better. It's just a chance to hit back when he thinks one of his took a shot from the other side.

EAllusion
God
Posts: 17899
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:39 am

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by EAllusion »

Remember when it wasn't clear if Flynn was going to roll on Trump (he ultimately didn't), so the Trump crew spent their time distancing themselves from him, dismissing him an Obama official, and trying to put a fence between his acknowledged malfeasance and the Trump admin? Good times. The real question is if Ajax does. Either answer is bad.

EAllusion
God
Posts: 17899
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:39 am

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by EAllusion »

Anyway, Barr really, really needs to be in prison. Country's probably too far gone for that to happen, but "very serious person" takes who got the vapors at the very thought are looking worse by the minute.

User avatar
Dr. Shades
Founder & Visionary
Posts: 14130
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:07 pm

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by Dr. Shades »

Thanks for that, EAllusion. I appreciate the information.

User avatar
ajax18
God
Posts: 6354
Joined: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:56 pm

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by ajax18 »

Tic toc Jim Comey. Bull Durham is coming. The pendulum is swinging the other way.
Last edited by ajax18 on Fri May 08, 2020 7:53 am, edited 1 time in total.

EAllusion
God
Posts: 17899
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:39 am

Re: Flynn Walks

Post by EAllusion »

It would be amusing for Comey to go to jail because he wasn't a sufficient Trump toady after swinging the election to Trump due to his unprofessional behavior. Doesn't serve him right, exactly, but it feels like half-way to karma. But then you have to neglect the fall of the country stuff, and it's hard to do that, so it ends up not being amusing. Reality is less amusing than the thought.

Ajax is just some loser optometrist who has no actual stakes in this, but he sure as hell loves living vicariously through the idea of night of the long-knivesing in his perceived enemies. But because he's worthless grist to his heroes, his imagined place inside the tribal circle is always less secure than he imagines. Things don't always work out great for the people who enabled the authoritarian collapse of a country even if they love to fantasize that it'll be them forever holding the whip.

Post Reply