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"A woman says Biden assaulted her in 1993. Now #TimesUpBiden is trending."
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/27/21195935/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation

Biden said, "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it’s been made worse or better over time."

I think Biden will get accused by more women before Nov. Hopefully Sanders stays in the race and fights for the nomination in the convention.

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His opponent has dozens of women accusing him of sexual assault. Watch the "Liberal" media focus only on Biden's.

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Joe Biden is accused of sexually assaulting a woman named Tara Reade by pressing her up against a wall and digitally penetrating her without her consent. After the Kavanaugh thing, I’m curious if Leftists think he should step down while he’s investigated by the FBI for however long it takes to totally exonerate him in our collective mind?

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[quote]In total, eight women have come forward about personal experiences in which Biden invaded their personal space and caused them discomfort. Such instances include Alexandra Tara Reade, who said that Biden allegedly ran his fingers up her neck, and Vail Kohnert-Yount, a former intern who claims Biden pressed his forehead to hers. Such experiences are dehumanizing and uncomfortable for women in the workplace. Particularly in light of the #MeToo movement’s resounding success, we must no longer make excuses for our politicians. Biden’s clear disregard towards women signifies that he does not deserve to be the president of the United States. Democrats continuously bash U.S. President Donald J. Trump for his alleged past of sexual misconduct, and we must hold Biden to the same standard. [/quote]

However...

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So, a no then?

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This would be a great time to run a 3rd party candidate, if a viable one could be found. Looks like we are going to have a battle of the sexual predator losers in November, unless the Democrats wise up and draft someone without sexual harassment/rape allegation problems. Also, Biden seems to be losing it.

Who should the Democrats draft, assuming these allegations against Biden gain some traction? Sanders is too much of a whimp to fight for what he wants and is too old. Clinton still has all the negatives and is too much like a liberal republican. I'd probably vote for Kerry as he probably should have been president, but for Ohio. I'd have a hard time voting for any of the other Democratic candidates that were in the field, except maybe Tulsi Gabbard.
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Icarus wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:05 pm
His opponent has dozens of women accusing him of sexual assault. Watch the "Liberal" media focus only on Biden's.
A lot of women accused Sanders of sexual assault? Trump and the Republican party are just dog crap and I don't care about them. The Democratic party is supposed to be for the working class, but I feel the party betrayed us.

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Here are all the times Biden has been accused of "sexual assault."

Ally Coll, a former Democratic staffer, told The Washington Post that when she met Biden in 2008, he complimented her smile, squeezed her shoulders, and held her "for a beat too long."

Sofie Karasek was photographed holding hands and touching foreheads with Biden at the 2016 Academy Awards. While many saw the moment as powerful, Karasek said she felt Biden had violated her personal space.

Amy Stokes Lappos said Biden "put his hands behind my head and pulled me close and I thought, 'he's going to kiss me'" during a 2009 event.

Caitlyn Caruso told The New York Times that after she shared her story of sexual assault at a University of Nevada event in 2016, Biden hugged her "just a little bit too long" and “He left his hand on my thigh, maybe in an attempt to console me, but regardless, it crossed my boundaries and made me feel uncomfortable."

DJ Hill told The Times that at a 2012 fundraising event in Minneapolis, Biden rested his hand on her shoulder and began moving it down her back. Hill said the encounter made her "very uncomfortable."

Vail Kohnert-Yount, a former White House intern, told The Post that when she met Biden in 2013, he "put his hand on the back of my head and pressed his forehead to my forehead." Kohnert-Yount also said Biden called her a "pretty girl."

Alexandra Tara Reade, who worked at Biden's Senate office in 1993, told The Union that Biden would "put his hand on my shoulder and run his finger up my neck."

In my view, there are plausibly innocent explanations for most of the above instances. The exception would be Tara Reade but at the same time her story dramatically shifted from 2019 ("touching my neck") to 2020 ("penetrating my vagina"). At his age, if Biden is really that kind of person then surely we should expect many more women to come forth with comparable accusations. All of the other examples aren't comparable to this accusation nor to the accusations against Trump/Kavanaugh. Kavanaugh and Trump have been accused of actual rape, and in situations that seem far more plausible (i.e. drunk at a college party).

Biden's alleged crimes all happened in the open public. Does it make sense for a politician of his stature to knowingly make women physically uncomfortable on camera? I've seen images of him pressing his forehead against the foreheads of other people, even little girls. Is he a pedophile then? I doubt it. It seems that's just his way of bonding with or comforting people, he's just an openly affectionate guy and it comes across as a little too much for those who aren't affectionate at all.

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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:58 pm
"A woman says Biden assaulted her in 1993. Now #TimesUpBiden is trending."
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/27/21195935/ ... allegation

Biden said, "For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it’s been made worse or better over time."

I think Biden will get accused by more women before Nov. Hopefully Sanders stays in the race and fights for the nomination in the convention.
Sanders has no chance in hell of beating Trump.

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Icarus wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:10 pm
The exception would be Tara Reade but at the same time her story dramatically shifted from 2019 ("touching my neck") to 2020 ("penetrating my vagina").
It is not necessarily a contradiction. If Biden wins the nomination, the victims of sexual assault will have to pick between on alleged sexual predator and another alleged sexual predator. I think there is a high probability that more women accuse Biden of sexual misconduct before Nov.

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Icarus wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:13 pm
Sanders has no chance in hell of beating Trump.
If there is a recession (or depression) in Nov, then Trump has no chance of beating Sanders. If the economy recovers Trump will be unstoppable.

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Icarus wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:10 pm
The exception would be Tara Reade but at the same time her story dramatically shifted from 2019 ("touching my neck") to 2020 ("penetrating my vagina").
It is not necessarily a contradiction. If Biden wins the nomination, the victims of sexual assault will have to pick between one alleged sexual predator and another alleged sexual predator. I think there is a high probability that more women accuse Biden of sexual misconduct before Nov.
Do you think that would be mentally healthy for survivors of sexual assault?

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Oh I wasn't saying its a contradiction, it just begs the question as to why she would not say this in 2019 but in 2020 after it became clear Bernie wasn't going to beat Biden. I've already read her version on two websites and in neither case has she explained what her reaction was to Biden while he was supposedly fingering her in public. She kept saying what he was doing but never explaining what her reactions were as the event unfolded. I just thought that was odd, but then maybe there is a more detailed version somewhere that I haven't read.

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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:23 pm
If there is a recession (or depression) in Nov, then Trump has no chance of beating Sanders. If the economy recovers Trump will be unstoppable.
And yet his approval numbers have actually gone up 5% since the coronavirus. No one seems to remember caged children, treason in Helsinki, Puerto Rico being mocked, or any of the other three dozen scandals that would have easily dethroned any other President.

Economists have been expecting a recession sometime before 2021 and the best way this could have played out for Democrats is without the coronavirus. The stock market began to plummet dramatically because of the price of crude dropping below $30/barrel. An issue that happened because Trump has always encouraged the Saudis and Russia to produce as much oil as possible, and now they're in a pricing war probably in an attempt to put some of our oil companies out of business. They need crude to be at $35 just to break even.

But if we head into recession now everyone will blame coronavirus and give Trump a pass.

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Icarus wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:31 pm
Oh I wasn't saying its a contradiction, it just begs the question as to why she would not say this in 2019 but in 2020 after it became clear Bernie wasn't going to beat Biden. I've already read her version on two websites and in neither case has she explained what her reaction was to Biden while he was supposedly fingering her in public. She kept saying what he was doing but never explaining what her reactions were as the event unfolded. I just thought that was odd, but then maybe there is a more detailed version somewhere that I haven't read.
She says she was shocked and surprised at around the 6:00 mark in this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmVUQ7i ... e=youtu.be
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Yeah, she didn't strike me as very credible.

So it all "happened so fast" that he supposedly threw her up against a wall in public and managed to finger her vagina through her panties before she thought to resist, and then when she resisted we hear he responded two different ways. 1) He held her shoulders in a reassuring manner to tell her "you're OK, everything's fine" while at the same time she said 2) he stuck his finger in her face and said "you're nothing to me."

So... is he schizophrenic too?

And why would he "I thought you liked me man" when she said she was surprised he even knew her name? Just the way she was rambling on as if she were reaching for things to say before she said it. I'd like to ask her, so you'll accuse him of fingering you in public against your will but you're reluctant to disclose he told you that you were nothing to him? Sounds like something out of a bad movie.

The whole argument that she wasn't allowed to tell her story due to pressure from Biden supporters doesn't really hold water when you consider she actually did tell her story a year ago and it was a very different story that amounted to neck rubbing. It would have been the perfect time to drop the complete bombshell. But why would a die-hard Bernie supporter care about pressure from Biden supporters anyway? That's like me saying I'll no longer tell the truth about Trump because it upsets his base.

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I think Biden is creepy with how he can't seem to keep his hands to himself. Creeps, however, aren't necessarily rapists. There are a lot of questions I have about this story from Ms. Reade. She didn't give all of the details right away and she waited a long time to make her allegations, why? I wonder how public the area was where Biden allegedly did the deed. She says it was a semi-private area but let's see it. Are there any witnesses that can at least place the two of them in the area at the time of the alleged incident? What did she tell her brother? Mother? Has Biden himself denied these allegations or has it just been his staff?
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Dr Exiled wrote:
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I think Biden is creepy with how he can't seem to keep his hands to himself. Creeps, however, aren't necessarily rapists. There are a lot of questions I have about this story from Ms. Reade. She didn't give all of the details right away and she waited a long time to make her allegations, why? I wonder how public the area was where Biden allegedly did the deed. She says it was a semi-private area but let's see it. Are there any witnesses that can at least place the two of them in the area at the time of the alleged incident? What did she tell her brother? Mother? Has Biden himself denied these allegations or has it just been his staff?
I heard him deny it in a live interview but he wasn't attacking the woman or calling her a liar. He said he believes all women need to be heard and all women need to have their claims vetted. He went on to say that if he's ever touched anyone in a way to make them feel uncomfortable he'd want to know so he could apologize, but I doubt he'd apologize to Reade since he denies having done what she said.

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I'm absolutely disgusted by Icarus' misogynistic and hateful disbelief and skepticism. It's utter trash.

#believeallwomen #justbelieveher #womendon'tlieaboutsexualassault

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Anyone who says all women should be believed without exception is just promoting bumper sticker slogans. You should only be believed if the evidence supports your claim, and this is true regardless of what kind of sexual organ you have between your legs.

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Icarus wrote:
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And yet his approval numbers have actually gone up 5% since the coronavirus.
Not if the economy doesn't recover before Nov. Months of high unemployment won't be good for the president.

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