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Dear Perfume Lovers,

Here's a map of the spread of the coronavirus, updated in real-time:

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6
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Dr. Shades wrote:Dear Perfume Lovers,

Here's a map of the spread of the coronavirus, updated in real-time:

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6

Let's hope quarantine efforts are successful. The cases in China are growing at an alarming rate.
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This is the kind of thing that makes me happy we have universal healthcare. I'd hate to think people are getting sick and afraid to go to the doctor.

Oh wait, I'm thinking of all the actual developed nations. This one thinks national security is limited to having big guns.

Forget what I said. Go virus go!
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Dr. Shades wrote:Dear Perfume Lovers,

Here's a map of the spread of the coronavirus, updated in real-time:

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6


Oh good. Now I can watch my travel plans disappear before my very eyes. Thanks so much.
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Some Schmo wrote:This is the kind of thing that makes me happy we have universal healthcare. I'd hate to think people are getting sick and afraid to go to the doctor.

Oh wait, I'm thinking of all the actual developed nations. This one thinks national security is limited to having big guns.

Forget what I said. Go virus go!


What kind of healthcare does your home country have?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:This is the kind of thing that makes me happy we have universal healthcare. I'd hate to think people are getting sick and afraid to go to the doctor.

Oh wait, I'm thinking of all the actual developed nations. This one thinks national security is limited to having big guns.

Forget what I said. Go virus go!


What kind of healthcare does your home country have?

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So far as I am aware, Schmo's home, like yours, is the US of A.

And I don't think Schmo is the only person to find it weird that the world's richest country still prefers a system of health care provision that can leave its citizens bankrupt as a result of illnesses that are elsewhere paid for by systems of (by and large) universal provision. I like Americans (well, I'm thought to be a bit old-fashioned where I come from, but I'm not alone), and I'd like to see them better treated than they currently are.
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Chap wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:What kind of healthcare does your home country have?

So far as I am aware, Schmo's home, like yours, is the US of A.

And I don't think Schmo is the only person to find it weird that the world's richest country still prefers a system of health care provision that can leave its citizens bankrupt as a result of illnesses that are elsewhere paid for by systems of (by and large) universal provision. I like Americans (well, I'm thought to be a bit old-fashioned where I come from, but I'm not alone), and I'd like to see them better treated than they currently are.

All true... even the stuff about Chap liking Americans.
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SS,

Ok. My bad for poor wording. What kind of healthcare does your country of origin have?

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I could go to a doctor any time I needed to and it was free.

I will say this: I believe in co-pays. I think the patient should have some skin in the game. Call it a usage tax. That way, everyone who really needs it will seek it without abusing the system. There's a happy medium in there.
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Some Schmo wrote:
I will say this: I believe in co-pays. I think the patient should have some skin in the game. Call it a usage tax. That way, everyone who really needs it will seek it without abusing the system. There's a happy medium in there.


I think I really agree with your reasoning on co-pays. I'm not sure how that would apply in the case of Medicare (only) for all, but I don't think that will ever pass so there's that, too.
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Chap wrote:And I don't think Schmo is the only person to find it weird that the world's richest country still prefers a system of health care provision that can leave its citizens bankrupt.

I will probably vote for Sanders and I do like the idea of universal healthcare, but I do have some concerns. The US is by far leading in medical research. According to Brookings, "One issue that often gets raised is whether the profits from higher prices will all go directly into research and development. They almost certainly won’t. Owners and employees would share in any gains in the form of dividends, retained earnings, and compensation. There are other ways to finance innovation other than high prices, for example through public research (paid by taxes) and philanthropy. At the end of the day, however, evidence conclusively demonstrates that higher expected revenues leads to more drug discovery, with the most recent numbers suggesting that on average every $2.5 billion of additional revenue leads to a new drug approval."

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Some Schmo wrote:This is the kind of thing that makes me happy we have universal healthcare. I'd hate to think people are getting sick and afraid to go to the doctor.

Oh wait, I'm thinking of all the actual developed nations. This one thinks national security is limited to having big guns.

Forget what I said. Go virus go!


It's ok for Hong Kong to temporarily suspend travel from China, but not the US.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:SS,

Ok. My bad for poor wording. What kind of healthcare does your country of origin have?

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Apparently not good enough for Schmo to choose to live there.
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ajax18 wrote:Apparently not good enough for Schmo to choose to live there.

Yeah, I admit, when I was younger, I was stupid enough to buy into America's ____. I made a mistake.

At least I'm not stupid enough to ignore it now that I'm here.
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At least I'm not stupid enough to ignore it now that I'm here.


If healthcare is so much better in that country, what stops you from going back to take advantage of that?
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ajax18 wrote:
At least I'm not stupid enough to ignore it now that I'm here.

If healthcare is so much better in that country, what stops you from going back to take advantage of that?

I think about it all the time. It may still happen. If my wife and daughter had their way, we'd already be there.
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I think about it all the time. It may still happen. If my wife and daughter had their way, we'd already be there.


Hell, I might even join you. I hear you can still collect SSI and use your medicare. I like the warm weather and beaches. I'm not sure about giving up my guns though.
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Jersey Girl wrote:Oh good. Now I can watch my travel plans disappear before my very eyes. Thanks so much.

Did I do you a disservice?

If so, don't let a silly map ruin your travel plans.
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Some Schmo wrote:I could go to a doctor any time I needed to and it was free.

I will say this: I believe in co-pays. I think the patient should have some skin in the game. Call it a usage tax. That way, everyone who really needs it will seek it without abusing the system. There's a happy medium in there.

I agree about the co-pays. But they should only be high enough to discourage taking frivolous advantage of the healthcare system, and encourage people to invest in maintaining their own health and physical fitness, and not so high as to bankrupt the average person for any serious medical emergency.
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Gunnar wrote:I agree about the co-pays. But they should only be high enough to discourage taking frivolous advantage of the healthcare system, and encourage people to invest in maintaining their own health and physical fitness, and not so high as to bankrupt the average person for any serious medical emergency.

You and I agree on pretty much everything. It's remarkable to me.

I was thinking about those details, but wasn't sure anyone cared. My opinion would be that co-pays would need to be progressive, based on income, like income taxes. Just enough to make whoever is paying them only go when they really want to see a doctor. (That means filthy rich people pay full price).

We're just trying to avoid people taking advantage of the system by seeing the doctor for frivolous ____, like getting their toenails clipped.
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Some Schmo wrote:My opinion would be that co-pays would need to be progressive, based on income, like income taxes. Just enough to make whoever is paying them only go when they really want to see a doctor. (That means filthy rich people pay full price).

Of course, the obvious problem with this is how do you determine a person's income at the time they need a doctor?

AWS is how.
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