Markk wrote:LOL.. Isiaih along with Clyde and Stockton are the three greatest prototype 1's....period, and all three play tenacious defense.
Clyde is SG/SF, not a 1. That's not that important, though. We're in the era of positionless basketball where people have figured out that those defined roles aren't as important as skillset contributions on the floor.
Thomas was a very good defender. That's not enough. Put Mookie Blaylock on your team if you think it is.
Thomas could not shoot. This is a problem. He took very few threes per game and hit an atrocious % because he was bad at it. You should question why someone who has Thomas's ability to defend, pass, and rebound at the 1 has a hard time winning a starting job these days. People have learned more about what wins games, and Thomas's skill set is not ideal.
Jason Kidd was a better defender than Thomas. His defensive win shares eclipse Thomas easily. He was also a better pure point and rebounder. Why not him? I wouldn't recommend Jason Kidd for an all-time team either. The prime version of him was also a bad shooter, but he's a better version of what you want out of Thomas too.
Steph, he would make him Cry.
What's he gonna do? Take over one of his businesses and mismanage it into the ground? I'm not sure Curry is going to be shedding too many tears about getting to rest on defense because Thomas can't knock down a long range shot. If Thomas plays Curry tight, then that makes it a 4 on 4 game, which is all the better for the team. If Thomas doesn't play Curry tight, then Curry will make it rain on him just like everyone else.
Isaiah, along with Stockton and Frazier, were voted on the 50 greatest players of all time team, by his peers...you simply have no idea what you are talking about.
I thought hard about either Stockton or Thomas, but choose Isaiah for his speed, and his rings, something Stockton failed to get.
Yeah, that Stockton really sucked at drafting players to play with him. Curry has 3 rings if you are being consistent about individual rings somehow equaling greatness in a team sport. I'm pretty sure my team also has more rings than your team. My guards have more rings than your guards. It wasn't that long ago that you were talking up Reggie Miller as better than Curry. How many rings does Miller have again?
Back in reality, rings are a very poor measure of quality as they are dependent on numerous factors outside of individual control.
Turnovers...he average 3.8 and Steph averages 3.1
You are aware that's a big gap, right? That's especially the case when you adjust for pace.
Magic averages almost 4 and Lebron about the same. Hardly a machine, it is one more a game more than Stockton...I can live with that.
Lebron doesn't get ball handling duties on an all-time team. Magic you live with because his height allows you to do special things. But that's a drawback too. He'll be asked to take less chances with this type of team, so that should cut the problem down a bit, but he's still going to be a little more turnover prone than you'd want because he's tall and consequently his dribble is looser.
[/quote]Isaiah is listed as 6-1 and steph is listed 6-3...which means nothing.
This may come as a surprise, but height is a key factor in basketball. It allows you to see and shoot over people. Steph is going to have to overcome his height too, but 2 inches is 2 inches. I'm not feeling great about him facing down backcourts of Magic and Jordan's and the like. The upshot is his effect on the offense is otherworldly. Thomas is a liability. Curry is not a great defender, but he is a + defender believe it or not.