Next time some one wants to tell you evolution isn't real

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Re: Next time some one wants to tell you evolution isn't rea

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Chap wrote:It is always a bad sign when someone who gets off on amateur and ignorant vaporings about science starts posting stuff about Einstein.

It usually goes something like 'Hey! People thought Einstein was wrong/foolish/ignorant, but who's laughing now?'. Alas, it by no means follows that if people say your opinions about science are not worth a pitcher of warm spit, that shows you may well be a second Einstein.

On the matter of the first Mrs Einstein's possible contributions to his early work, a serious discussion may be found here:

Did Mileva Marić assist Einstein in writing his 1905 path breaking papers?


I've read 3 different biographies on Einstein, with the hope it might make me smarter. You guys make me feel so...., inadequate. At the end, of all of them, I wasn't sure if I got smarter, or Einstein got dumber. I've very aware your vision of him. You can dismiss those other opinions, if you want, as they don't enforce your hero worship.

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SPG wrote:I've read 3 different biographies on Einstein, with the hope it might make me smarter. You guys make me feel so...., inadequate. At the end, of all of them, I wasn't sure if I got smarter, or Einstein got dumber. I've very aware your vision of him. You can dismiss those other opinions, if you want, as they don't enforce your hero worship.


Scientists of any kind are not suitable recipients of hero worship.

But I have one experience you will never have: I have learned enough physics and math so that I can (for instance) understand Einstein's work on the photo-electric effect, and have had the pleasure and privilege of sharing that experience with bright young minds. They loved it.

Do the math. Otherwise anything you say on this topic is no more than flatulence.
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My favorite book about Einstein so far is Kip Thorne's Black Holes & Time Warps: Einstein's Outrageous Legacy . It has been a long time since I read it; I should go back and read it again. Einstein was an incredible person who well deserves all the scientific accolades he has received, but as Chap pointed out, he is not deserving of worship, nor is any other scientist. His personal life and interactions with his wives and family, especially his first wife, was not all that admirable.
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