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subgenius wrote:Literally not a "defense", but literally the truth and fact.
Its the very foundation of a just society ya racist self-indulgent masturbatory rube.
An acquittal quite deliberately doesn't prove innocence if you are going to lecture on how the justice system works, nor is the justice system perfect in its judgements.

But hey, your mentality is a foundation for some unjust societies where legal impunity for the leaders proves they can do no wrong.

Idiotic opinions like yours are why the 5th amendment exists. Double jeopardy ensures that shut-in facist wannabes like you do not ruin other people's lives.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Summarizing the article no one from Trump’s DEEP STATE paranoid list has been charged with his oodles of accusations.

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From a "deep state" perspective wouldn't this just confirm the "untouchable" perk of being a member of said state?


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And now, from the “We’ll lie even about the stupidest ____..!” category:

Washington(CNN) President Donald Trump's campaign manager deleted a tweet featuring a dramatic photo of Air Force One at the Daytona 500 after users pointed out that the shot was from President George W. Bush's visit to the NASCAR race in 2004, not from Trump's visit on Sunday.

Brad Parscale tweeted the 2004 photo, which shows Air Force One rising above packed stands at the Daytona International Speedway in Florida, and wrote, ".@realDonaldTrump won the #Daytona500 before the race even started."

The tweet stayed online for about three hours, drawing at least 6,700 retweets and 23,000 likes before it was deleted. Users identifying themselves as Trump supporters replied with messages like "Amazing shot wow" and "WOW WHAT A SHOT!!!!!!!!!"

But the photo was taken by photographer Jonathan Ferrey on February 15, 2004, after Bush's visit to the racetrack, as Air Force One took off from the adjacent Daytona Beach International Airport.

"I have a lot of talented colleagues photographing the Daytona 500 this year," Ferrey told CNN. "I am unfortunately not there today, but apparently I won the Daytona 500 photography before the race even started."

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DRAIN. THAT. SWAMP.
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Funny that Lisa, Susan, and Lamar all just announced federal grants for their states. Lisa got her’s from Elaine. But I’m sure it’s all coincidence.
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Just one of those things, like pardoning Milliken right after Nelson Peltz holds a $10 million fundraiser for you...
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You know, I think after Donald Trump is elected, he's gonna pivot. All of this populist bravado is just posturing. When he's elected, he'll settle down. They'll get some adults in the room and they'll explain what's possible and what's not. The wealthy Republicans will look after their interests, not the populist mob.

That was the exact same thinking that Hindenburg and wealthy German industrialists had when Hitler was given the chancellorship. They thought they would be able to control him. The impeachment acquittal was Trump's Reichstag Fire. Meanwhile Susan Collins talks about Trump having learned his lesson, and those lucky enough get invited to Berchtesgaden Mar-a-Lago are content to bask in the glow of the Orange Sun King.

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Trump pardoning a bunch of criminals helps set the stage for him pardoning Roger Stone, sort of like doing stretches in warm-up for an even bigger abuse of power. I think Trump likes getting away with doing things that are outrageous and despicable.
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https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/04 ... sMdB7WxfWk

This is a must read in any discussion on the swamp...

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Icarus wrote:https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/04/trump-and-co-are-stealing-america-blind-timeline.html?fbclid=IwAR2RKEmjlX721Pt5APBO9Fchcd97kqykVPzouAzeJFDj4zhphsMdB7WxfWk

This is a must read in any discussion on the swamp...


My Lord the timelines are dizzying. You literally can't pick one or two or a dozen examples of the emoluments clause being absolutely obliterated by the President.

But, hey! We have quantitative easing which is helping fuel the economy right now so, you know, it's all good brah.

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I'm sorry that this probably doesn't fit the thread. I don't know where else to stuff it. ;-) Pence just landed at Peterson field, with President coming in at 4-ish for a 5 p.m. rally. I would like to know how these guys manage to function within a couple of hours of landing at high altitude. Are they huffing oxygen on the way down or something? Will President energy level show it? Will he slur his words? Does it even matter? Just mildly curious.
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Jersey Girl wrote:I'm sorry that this probably doesn't fit the thread. I don't know where else to stuff it. ;-) Pence just landed at Peterson field, with President coming in at 4-ish for a 5 p.m. rally. I would like to know how these guys manage to function within a couple of hours of landing at high altitude. Are they huffing oxygen on the way down or something? Will President energy level show it? Will he slur his words? Does it even matter? Just mildly curious.
I claim no special insight so sorry for butting in but this post triggered a long forgotten memory of Al Gore attempting to pin altitude sickness on a bad debate performance by Obama: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/al-gore- ... _n_1940297

Surely they prepare as best they can with trying to force hydration, provide oxygen, etc.
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Intelligence officials warned House lawmakers last week that Russia was interfering in the 2020 campaign to try to get Trump reelected.

Trump was angry and complained Democrats might exploit the news. He didn't order that something be done to stop the Russians, instead he was just angry that Democrats found out.

"Mr. Trump berated Joseph Maguire, the outgoing acting director of national intelligence, for allowing it [Feb 13th briefing, Adam Schiff in attendance] to take place."

This is why he's moving Grennell in.


Russia Backs Trump’s Re-election, and He Fears Democrats Will Exploit Its Support
A classified briefing to lawmakers angered the president, who complained that Democrats would “weaponize” the disclosure.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/us/p ... crats.html
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Xenophon wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:I'm sorry that this probably doesn't fit the thread. I don't know where else to stuff it. ;-) Pence just landed at Peterson field, with President coming in at 4-ish for a 5 p.m. rally. I would like to know how these guys manage to function within a couple of hours of landing at high altitude. Are they huffing oxygen on the way down or something? Will President energy level show it? Will he slur his words? Does it even matter? Just mildly curious.
I claim no special insight so sorry for butting but his post triggered a long forgotten memory of Al Gore attempting to pin altitude sickness on a bad debate performance by Obama: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/al-gore- ... _n_1940297

Surely they prepare as best they can with trying to force hydration, provide oxygen, etc.



I'm trying to keep this low key so as not to disrupt. I suppose they could do those things prior to landing. Most performers come in about 2 days early to adjust and while he's not a stage performer--well, he kind of is. It takes me about 2 hours before I start to drop when returning to high altitude.

Anyway I want to tell a story! :-) So before I made my post about Pence landing something happened, right? I was outside and I heard an aircraft coming around the house only it didn't sound like the usual commercial or military air craft. I looked on one side of the house and didn't see it and by the time I thought to look on the other side it was beyond the house already. I think it was AF2 because I'd say it was 15 minutes between hearing the sound and returning to the computer that I saw that Pence had landed so there's no way it was a commercial aircraft landing that close to Pence's plane. I didn't even know they were coming until I saw the news report and I didn't even put 2 and 2 together until I had gone out to a military installation and I figured if I played my cards right and could get done with my business in time I might see AF1 coming in and then I thought about the aircraft and the different sound it made that flew over the house. Stuff like that fascinates me. Not the President, the aircraft. Like the Beast, that fascinates the hell out of me. So I'm on the installation which shall remain nameless, and look back and see a huge black helicopter probably sweeping the area some how since there was about 25 minutes until AF1's ETA. So I get in an out and over to my vantage point and darn it...the haze was so bad I couldn't see anything! I would LOVE to see AF1 coming out of the skies!! But not this time...anyway I see that Trump isn't flat on his face from the altitude. ;-)
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Me again. Sorry. So it looks like he went on for 2 hours (which would be a total of 3 hours on the ground) and didn't drop once. Better man than me I guess. Anyway, it ended with the Stones "You can't always get what you want"...he's been asked directly NOT to use it. Can they sue him? I guess if Keith were to whip out a knife in front of him again, that'd be a federal crime now. I dunno...Okay I'm gone.
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MissTish wrote:Intelligence officials warned House lawmakers last week that Russia was interfering in the 2020 campaign to try to get Trump reelected.

Trump was angry and complained Democrats might exploit the news. He didn't order that something be done to stop the Russians, instead he was just angry that Democrats found out.

"Mr. Trump berated Joseph Maguire, the outgoing acting director of national intelligence, for allowing it [Feb 13th briefing, Adam Schiff in attendance] to take place."

This is why he's moving Grennell in.


Russia Backs Trump’s Re-election, and He Fears Democrats Will Exploit Its Support
A classified briefing to lawmakers angered the president, who complained that Democrats would “weaponize” the disclosure.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/us/p ... crats.html


It's stunning how many 5-alarm fire stories have broke just since Trump's acquittal not that long ago that Democrats in Congress have backed off of in total cowardice.

Trump's practically attempting to steal the election in broad daylight and the best Democratic party machine offers amounts to cornered whimpering.

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EAllusion wrote:
MissTish wrote:Intelligence officials warned House lawmakers last week that Russia was interfering in the 2020 campaign to try to get Trump reelected.

Trump was angry and complained Democrats might exploit the news. He didn't order that something be done to stop the Russians, instead he was just angry that Democrats found out.

"Mr. Trump berated Joseph Maguire, the outgoing acting director of national intelligence, for allowing it [Feb 13th briefing, Adam Schiff in attendance] to take place."

This is why he's moving Grennell in.


Russia Backs Trump’s Re-election, and He Fears Democrats Will Exploit Its Support
A classified briefing to lawmakers angered the president, who complained that Democrats would “weaponize” the disclosure.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/us/p ... crats.html


It's stunning how many 5-alarm fire stories have broke just since Trump's acquittal not that long ago that Democrats in Congress have backed off of in total cowardice.

Trump's practically attempting to steal the election in broad daylight and the best Democratic party machine offers amounts to cornered whimpering.



Yeah, maybe they should do something proactive like try to impeach him.

Oh, wait.

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It is becoming blazingly obvious that Trump and Barr are doing their darnedest to weaponize the DOJ into a tool whose main function is to protect Trump and his supporters who are willing to even break the law on his behalf, and punish any who are reluctant to do so, or even point it out to him whenever he requires them to do something illegal.
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Icarus wrote:
Yeah, maybe they should do something proactive like try to impeach him.

Oh, wait.


There are things that Democrats could be doing right now that they are not. I can't tell if you are sarcastically implying they have no tools left, but if you are, that's not true.

It's the same mentality that made them want to rush impeachment, unleashing this upon us, that is causing them to back down here.

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Wasn't saying it sarcastically just frustratingly. They went through a two year Mueller investigation that didn't do anything but embolden Trump to break more laws. Democrats in the House went through an exhaustive process of impeachment and it didn't do a damn thing but embolden him to break more laws. The system is broken. It doesn't work anymore. Because it takes more than just one party to hold a lawless IMPOTUS accountable. Whatever Democrats try to do Trump will simply block or refuse and that will be that. He controls the Fed, the Justice Dept, the Treasury, the Senate, and maybe even the Courts, which is more than enough to guarantee a smooth transition to tyranny. In the end, their failed efforts will be interpreted as "winning" for the Trump crowd and be more proof in their minds that he's just the most awesome unstoppable leader they always imagined, and then his poll numbers will be at their highest ever.

Sounds familiar?

I think their thoughts on this is that yes, we have the power of impeachment but that obviously went nowhere. And the election is coming up this year so they're going to leave it up to the American people. I thought they should have impeached him in his first year but they dragged their feet waiting for the Mueller Report, thinking Mueller was going to do the honorable thing and recommend indictment. But that didn't happen. It wasn't until the whistleblower's and a dozen other witnesses came forth testifying of Trump's attempt to undermine the upcoming election that they decided to move forward with impeachment, but even with some Republicans admitting the evidence was overwhelming against him, they still didn't come even close to getting enough votes to have him removed.

So what other tools did you have in mind?

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