moksha wrote:Why did God take back the Plates after their translation?
People would alway want to take a peek, not just the Saints but the heathen looky-loos as well.
So-called "scientists" would want to do continual metallurgical analyses to see how lightweight gold was made - physical chemists trying to assess its properties and physicists wanting to understand gravity alterations. So-called "linguistic specialists" would always want to study the Reformed Egyptian and so-called "cryptographers" would seek to replicate the algorithms used to condense so much information into the crystalline matrix of the seer stone. Military men would have sought to enlist the seer stone in the so-called "Enigma Project" during WWII. All told, it would be a nightmare for the vault security guards and night janitors. God spared them that task.
They had served their purpose.
What we know of them is their size, that they had the appearance of gold, and the thickness of common tin. It is pure speculation to assign a weight based on that description.
Not quite sure that the people who made the ancient Rosetta Stone used algorithms.
Hi CCC,
If you were to think about the question posed in the OP, do you really believe that the plates were transported away to some other dimension/realm/kolob/etc. and no longer exist on earth? I'm asking because when I imagine this story, it becomes a bit ridiculous and I actually feel dumb for ever believing this happened. It also seems like a very convenient thing to happen. Oh and it also sounds like a story someone might tell if they were lying about having actual proof of an extraordinary claim. These are all my opinions though, so please don't let my skepticism be a reason for you to not answer my questions.
I hope you don't take my post as an attack...I'm just wondering if a rational adult such as yourself can really hold this belief in your mind without any doubt at all. If so, since it is impossible to know either way, what is your reasoning for holding to this belief that the plates were literally taken away from the earth?
The CCC wrote: Then pay your money and take your chances that that Chevy dealer is objective. You do know that he wants your money, right? Is there something about having a priori that you don't understand? SEE #2 http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/a%20priori
What is it that you do not understand about the ford dealership or a particular religion is not going to tell you about all the negatives of their product? In order to find them you have to seek other sources. Also being a non-believer or believer does not make one nonobjective. This is just poor reasoning to attack sites that give that negative information about Mormonism's truth claims.
MetalSlasher wrote:I currently own the plates. I haven't decided what to do with them yet. I'm thinking of melting them down and turning them into a sculptor of a cat.
You may as well. They are not much good without an Urim and Thummim attached to some sort of breast plate or a reliable seer stone.
Just for fun, before you melt them down, try running through the woods with them to see if it can be done and report back to us. Inquiring minds want to know.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
MetalSlasher wrote:I currently own the plates. I haven't decided what to do with them yet. I'm thinking of melting them down and turning them into a sculptor of a cat.
You may as well. They are not much good without an Urim and Thummim attached to some sort of breast plate or a reliable seer stone.
Just for fun, before you melt them down, try running through the woods with them to see if it can be done and report back to us. Inquiring minds want to know.
The CCC wrote: A stone is just a stone. But it can be a means by which we concentrate. Really no different that closing our eyes when concentrating a difficult math problem.
True. I use stones when I count. I have a Chinese abacus.
And in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love...you make. PMcC
The CCC wrote: A stone is just a stone. But it can be a means by which we concentrate. Really no different that closing our eyes when concentrating a difficult math problem.
True. I use stones when I count. I have a Chinese abacus.
I used to have a abacus, a long time ago. I learned Chemistry on a Slide Rule. But I don't like to admit I'm that old.
The CCC wrote: I used to have a abacus, a long time ago. I learned Chemistry on a Slide Rule. But I don't like to admit I'm that old.
I found my slide rule while shifting my old junk from box to box (It gives the wife the impression that I'm actually throwing stuff away) and showed it to her son. I found I could only do multiplication and divison with ease. I think the area of my brain that had been used for slide rule higher functions has been burnt out.
And in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love...you make. PMcC
How do you know it was God? One of my theories is that Joseph was deceived by Satan from the beginning through the end of his life. God would have stood pat and allowed the world to look at the plates, but it was Satan, the deceiver, who told Joseph it was okay to fabricate plates, pretend to translate Egyptian, institute polygamy, etc.
Of course it might have also been aliens who knew to appear in an angelic form that was culturally acceptable and effective for their purpose. Why would they do it? Alien motivation, like divine motivation, is beyond our understanding.
