Markk wrote:RI...wrong, my comparison was hate against Mormon's, Christians, Muslim's...and DCP...etc...and it that context as you correctly agreed with hate is the same. I compared genocides of real people that is happening today to ten's of thousands of people with Kish. Is it worse hating Jews than it is hating Christians, when Christian's are being pushed out of their countries and murdered? No...the hate is the same RI.
If you really want to whittle it down to Paul's form of hate does not induce violence, that is a staw-man. What we do here is encourage folks to hate Mormonism, and the by product of that is people read it, I believe in ignorance and in turn hate Mormons, which is not good IMO.
Your analysis is just as I asserted towards the beginnings of the thread, a "justified brand of hate, rated on a curve ." In other words...my hating Y is okay in that it is not as bad as hating Z.
Markk, you continue your original mistake. You are confusing the nature of the conduct that you label as “hate” with the target of that conduct. When I tell you that I would push back on Smokey’s conduct regardless of the target, I am not agreeing with you that all conduct that could be labeled as hate is the same. You consistently avoid talking about the actual conduct and focus solely on the label because you can’t explain why we should treat Smokey’s conduct the same way we treat Shulem’s. I can demonstrate how Smokey’s conduct leads to genocides. Read what the mass murderer of Jews in New Zealand wrote. Read what Hitler and other Nazi leaders said. Smokey is doing the same thing.
Now, find me examples of Shulem’s conduct resulting in Boko Haram murdering Christians or the Egyptian government persecuting Copts. What you keep claiming as Christian genocide is a grab bag of different situations involving very different groups. The murder of Christians in Africa by the terrorist group Boko Haram differs from the Christians who fled Iraq after the fall of Saddam, which differs from the longer term migration of Christian Arabs to the US and other countries, etc. In many cases, the persecution of Christians is inextricably intertwined with ethnic, tribal, national or social conflicts that go back centuries. And none of it has to do with stuff people post here — other than the fact that you can slap the same label on it.
Please don’t project your reasons for participating on this board onto me. I don’t hate Mormons. I don’t want to encourage anyone to hate Mormons, let alone encourage people to shoot up LDS Sunday school. I don’t even hate Mormonism, although I hate the effect it has on many people’s lives. I’m not really much of a hater, but if I compiled a list of things to hate, I think the LDS Church would be way down the list if it even made the list. And “Mormons” wouldn’t be on the list at all.
If you want to make the case that my postings in response to Smokey is hypocritical, you’re going to have to show at a minimum how my actual conduct is inconsistent with things I have said or other things I have done. Hiding behind labels doesn’t cut it.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
