As for the polygamy comment, cwald, ____ you. If I had been born of a whore, it doesn't qualify you to make comments about my upbringing like that. I thought you had more class then that.
And, I wasn't insulted about polygamy being brought up. I was insulted that he implied my "messed up views" were because of my upbringing. . . . . I had to actually delete a couple of clever insults about your upbringing, because, I'm just not that hateful. But just so you know, I don't find you perfect, and I could find ways to blame your parents.
SPG. Where do you think your misogynistic views come from if not from your Mormon culture and upbringing?
I recently listened to the John Larson on John Dehlin Sunstone podcast. One the parts that really stuck out to me was Larsen taking about how we have to be very aware of our Mormon upbringing and how it has shaped our world views. He specifically mentioned the misogynistic and racists past Mormon beliefs and teachings he was exposed too, so he is super aware and hyper focused to make sure he doesn't fall into those pitfalls and traps.
I've talked to my father a couple of times in the past year. Every time he will use the N word multiple times. It shocks me still and I've always know he has a problem with "brown people." When I brought home my Navajo girlfriend, now wife, and told my family we were getting married, his only response was, "well, at least she ain't a n____."
He is a good dude, a great Mormon, and a misogynistic racist. The racist language and attitudes simmer just under the surface and I partially blame the Mormon culture for it. Worse yet is his attitude towards women. Mormonism has a bad bad record when it comes to treating women.
It worries me and makes me very cautious of how I talk and think and I worry that some of that Mormon culture and family traditions have affected me and left their taint.
If you SPG, were to question, say a misogynist comment I made, and ask if it was because of my parents and the my Mormon upbringing, I would not be offended in the least and I think it is a very good topic for discussion and conversation to explore.
Not sure why you exploded and went the other direction. I was not trying insult your parents personally, but I sure as hell don't care if I insulted Mormonism,or your personal Mormon upbringing in a polygamist Mormon church and household.
eta. I'm glad you are up in the Celestial Kingdom discussing these things. You will like it better up there. Especially polygamy conversations. Just my opinion.