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Haggard's Sermon Last Sunday

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Listen to it here:

http://video.newlifechurch.org/nlc/0610 ... se_You.mp3

Quote:

"Heavenly Father give us grace and mercy, help us this next week and a half as we go into national elections and Lord we pray for our country. Father we pray lies would be exposed and deception exposed. Father we pray that wisdom would come upon our electorate ..."

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Re: Haggard's Sermon Last Sunday

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Well while I do not want to condemd this fellow I wonder if all the evangelical critics can be as merciful towards Joseph Smith for his plural marriage activity. Come on EVs!!! This dude was leader of a group of 30 million of ya all!!!!!!!!!!

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According to you JASON no, so why are you even asking our opinions???

HMMMMMM?????

How many did Joseph Smith lead????

And don't you dare quote the numbers from Joseph Smith's time!!!!!!

cause we will blast you out of the water!!!!!

Fair warning now......
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........

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Jason Bourne wrote:Well while I do not want to condemd this fellow I wonder if all the evangelical critics can be as merciful towards Joseph Smith for his plural marriage activity. Come on EVs!!! This dude was leader of a group of 30 million of ya all!!!!!!!!!!

Jason


Hmmm. I think this Haggard guy asked for forgiveness. To my knowledge, Joseph never did, did he?

I can be merciful to Joseph. I think what he did behind Emma's back was reprehensible, but I believe in forgiving.

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Runtu wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:Well while I do not want to condemd this fellow I wonder if all the evangelical critics can be as merciful towards Joseph Smith for his plural marriage activity. Come on EVs!!! This dude was leader of a group of 30 million of ya all!!!!!!!!!!

Jason


Hmmm. I think this Haggard guy asked for forgiveness. To my knowledge, Joseph never did, did he?

I can be merciful to Joseph. I think what he did behind Emma's back was reprehensible, but I believe in forgiving.




Yes he did and no he did not!!!!
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........

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Nortinski writes:

Nortinski wrote:Ray, I'm not trying to be an ass. I'm certainly not Admin here. I just like to point things like this out before it turns into a free-for-all around here. This is a forum for Mormon related things. This meth head turd has nothing to do with the Mormon cult.


Then Ray A responds:

Ray A wrote:Can you tell me where in any of the rules it says to not discuss anything but Mormonism? Shades might want to rectify this, or clarify this. When I began this thread I knew, inevitably, that the subject of Mormonism would arise.


Oh, I'd say that as long as a thread is at least tangentally related to Mormonism or has a strong potential to become so, then it's okay to post it here.
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According to you JASON no, so why are you even asking our opinions???



Come again. As usual you are not coherent here.


HMMMMMM?????


Are you humming to some tune?

How many did Joseph Smith lead????


I am not sure. Not 30 million.

And don't you dare quote the numbers from Joseph Smith's time!!!!!!


Why?

cause we will blast you out of the water!!!!!


Bwaaaahahahaha!!! I am really worried.

Fair warning now......



Well gee golly whizzzzz! Thanks.

Jason

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Re: Haggard's Sermon Last Sunday

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Hmmm. I think this Haggard guy asked for forgiveness.


I don't know. He may have. A mob killed him first though.



To my knowledge, Joseph never did, did he?


According to William Marks he regretted polygamy and was planning to do away with it.

I can be merciful to Joseph. I think what he did behind Emma's back was reprehensible, but I believe in forgiving.


Well I am just wondering if evangelical critics will be as harsh with Haggard as they are with Joseph.

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Re: Haggard's Sermon Last Sunday

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Yes he did and no he did not
!!!!

Well Coffee dumb dope, you may be wrong now.

Study your history a bit before you opine.

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Dr. Shades wrote:Nortinski writes:

Nortinski wrote:Ray, I'm not trying to be an ass. I'm certainly not Admin here. I just like to point things like this out before it turns into a free-for-all around here. This is a forum for Mormon related things. This meth head turd has nothing to do with the Mormon cult.


Oh, I'd say that as long as a thread is at least tangentally related to Mormonism or has a strong potential to become so, then it's okay to post it here.


Add "Board Nanny" to Norty's illustrious resume.

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Re: Haggard's Sermon Last Sunday

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Jason Bourne wrote:
Yes he did and no he did not
!!!!

Well Coffee dumb dope, you may be wrong now.

Study your history a bit before you opine.

Jason



HOW TIMES MUST I TELL YOU JASON

ANYTIME YOU REFER TO ME CALL ME SMART ____< NOT A DUMB DOPE!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU ARE A LAWYER AND DON"T EVEN LISTEN

MAYBE I WILL CHANGE MY ID TO SMART ____????

WOULD THAT MAKE YOU HAPPY?????
When I wake up I will be hungry....but this feels so good right now aaahhhhhh........

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Re: Haggard's Sermon Last Sunday

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coffeecat wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:
Yes he did and no he did not
!!!!

Well Coffee dumb dope, you may be wrong now.

Study your history a bit before you opine.

Jason



HOW TIMES MUST I TELL YOU JASON

ANYTIME YOU REFER TO ME CALL ME SMART ____< NOT A DUMB DOPE!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU ARE A LAWYER AND DON"T EVEN LISTEN

MAYBE I WILL CHANGE MY ID TO SMART ____????

WOULD THAT MAKE YOU HAPPY?????


I don't think you are smart at all so why would I call you anything smart at all? And once again, I am not a lawyer.

Jason

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I feel sorry for people who, for whatever reason, embrace a "paradigm" (putting the word in scare quotes because I know it bugs the poop out of some people) that results in the inability to come to terms with one's real self, so in that way, I feel sorry for Haggard. What a miserable way to go through life.

However, I have zero sympathy for those same people when they openly preach against the "sin" in which they secretly are engaged. Sure, go ahead and preach against it, but be enough of a mensch to, at the same time, admit you struggle with that same issue.

Otherwise, when the truth comes out (which it usually does) you just end up looking like a hypocrite as well as a liar and deceiver.

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