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Elder Kevin Pearson spoke at FairMormon a couple of years ago and called for "independent voices" to step up and defend the Church. It's a plausible deniability thingo. The Church should be more careful what they wish for.

Kwaku El is a hip next generation Mormon apologist who appears in dozens of youtube clips at Saints Unscripted and elsewhere. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2LBmY ... ZC14i_YkIg

When he's not carefully steering impressionable young Mormons away from dangerous historical information that challenges the things they were taught at Church, Kwaku likes to organise dance parties via his Young/Dumb organisation (I'm not making this up).

In the middle of the pandemic, Kwaku El organised a dance party in defiance of coronavirus health guidelines. And if that wasn't dumb enough, Kwaku posted video of the Young/Dumb dance party online. The video is wall to wall porn shoulders and even includes a touch of dry humping.

What a sad indictment on the state of Mormon apologetics.

https://kutv.com/news/local/video-provo ... oXL7ctjU6s

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Holy crap!!! OMG. I thought that connecting Kwaku with this was a joke. I didn't know HE ACTUALLY THREW THE PARTY!!!

That is off the charts irresponsible. ____ that guy. Seriously.
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Quacko-duck is a loose canon and a liability for the Church. I hope he continues to spread his influence in Mormondom.

Way to go QUACKO!

Just look at some of his tweets on Twitter:
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interviewed me & cut up my words to make me say something i didn’t say. CREATED A WHOLE DIFFERENT NARRATIVE

luckily i recorded the real thing myself.

watch the NOT fake news here ;)
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I just don't know how anyone could in good conscience hold a party that would almost be guaranteed to lead to suffering and death. What in the hell were you thinking, Kwaku?
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Maybe Kwaku was sure wearing garments would protect him and the others endowed that went to the soiree--and to hell with those who aren't.
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The fact that the tread title includes the phrase" state of Mormon apologetics" divided my mind upon two subjects. First it was dumb and very young to decide to have a party now with no social distancing. Perhaps Kwaku's ego and enthusiasm is ahead of his good sense. It appears there are young folks who agreed with his desire and encouraged his bad decision.

2 I watched the video and did not see porn shoulders or dry humping. I wonder what sort or religious righteousness sees those, particularly the ickey nasty phrase "porn shoulders". I have never been to BYU but I have heard that there are officials there that might be in possession of that form of righteousness and be inclined to remind Kwaku of that puritan dimension of Mormon authority.

3 I have watched some of this fellows YouTube apologetic efforts. I like his enthusiasm and respect his hope of finding some improvement in Mormonism from significant problems in American religion. I watched a debate with some fanatic conservative Calvinist. Kwaku did well. But one might consider that the Calvinist fellow by talking could convince most anybody, myself included, that Methodist, Catholic, Mormon, Buddist , traditional Native American beliefs etc would all be much better than his views.

4 As an apologist Kwaku sounds a bit naïve in places to the ears of older exMormons who have spent more time on the issues. Even so I could not understand the nasty comments made here about him a year or so ago. I liked his enthusiasm. Besides I believe that apologists can cause people to think and have led some Mormons away from blind trust in authority.

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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:34 am
I just don't know how anyone could in good conscience hold a party that would almost be guaranteed to lead to suffering and death. What in the hell were you thinking, Kwaku?
I suspect he has a good conscience, but a little selfishness and a lot of human stupidity helps people to think there is nothing wrong with these kinds of behaviors. A good number of humans can really be quite stupid in certain areas while being intelligent in other areas.
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huckelberry wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:12 am
2 I watched the video and did not see porn shoulders
Watch it again. There were several examples of those evil porn shoulders.
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Kwaku wrote:“I feel the party was important. I wanted to show that even small business owners can do something. These restrictions have been a financial death sentence for so many, and I’m sick of it,” Young/Dumb co-founder Kwaku El told The Daily Universe, BYU's student newspaper.
I guess Mopologetics empowers even the purest minds to assume they are divinely appointed to steady all arks.

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This actually reminds me of what DarthJ said about Millennials and Mormonism. They're leaving in droves because they see no value in the bland pablum the Church offers. I get the feeling Kwaku is trying to move Millennials and Zoomers into a sort of Nu Mormonism where having fun and building connections is the aspect that they can see.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:00 pm
This actually reminds me of what DarthJ said about Millennials and Mormonism. They're leaving in droves because they see no value in the bland pablum the Church offers. I get the feeling Kwaku is trying to move Millennials and Zoomers into a sort of Nu Mormonism where having fun and building connections is the aspect that they can see.

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Doc , I had the same thought and had a touch of sympathy though I completely agree that now is not the time for such a party. I suspect he will run into difficulty over time. If this place solves its registration problems and is thus able to survive he will perhaps be joining us in some future.

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Themis wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:30 am
huckelberry wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:12 am
2 I watched the video and did not see porn shoulders
Watch it again. There were several examples of those evil porn shoulders.
Was I really being that coy about my views? I saw bare shoulders I just believe that porn shoulders only exist in the minds of religious perverts.

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huckelberry wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:36 pm
Themis wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:30 am


Watch it again. There were several examples of those evil porn shoulders.
Was I really being that coy about my views? I saw bare shoulders I just believe that porn shoulders only exist in the minds of religious perverts.
Lol. The phrase “Porn shoulders” needs evil quotes, maybe even a footnote. Good point about religious perversion, huckelberry.

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huckelberry wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:36 pm
Themis wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:30 am


Watch it again. There were several examples of those evil porn shoulders.
Was I really being that coy about my views? I saw bare shoulders I just believe that porn shoulders only exist in the minds of religious perverts.

I'm sure just about any horny return RM would throw caution to the wind to get in on this good wholesome action.
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an alcohol free party with girls making fun of themselves by giving “air lap dances” to guys, they’re not even touching or sitting on, is the height of wickedness and sin & definitely not college kids having a fun time while they prep for the school year.

https://twitter.com/thekwakuel/status/1 ... 05601?s=20
Actually aside from the potential of spreading of COVID and the irresponsibility of the party. I really don't care if the lap dances were real or not, If someone is going to get dinged by covid and possibly spread to their family, at least make the reward worth the risk.

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Kwaku:

with girls making fun of themselves by giving “air lap dances” to guys, they’re not even touching or sitting on,
Wow. So much to unpack there. What a bizarre take.

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I wonder if Kwaku's Covid-illicit party might have been a celebration after laboring for months on his "comedy sketch special" takedown of the CES Letter. According to Kwaku, it's being edited right now in Los Angeles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bpO8piDydY

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Just saw the promo video for Young/Dumb.

My! That looked . . . worldly.
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I just hope Kwaku knows how to pronounce "expulsion" . . .
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Kwaku doesn't have good examples to look up to. I mean, unless I'm mistaken, Dr. Peterson is taking his *second* vacation during the pandemic--he keeps signing his posts, "Posted from Seaside, Oregon." I guess that explains why he had to record his FAIR talk early: he was too busy traveling, satisfying his own gluttony and self-interests, and pissing all over health officials' recommendations just because he feels like it. This guy really is human garbage--completely self-centered, with zero regard for other people.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:16 pm
Kwaku doesn't have good examples to look up to. I mean, unless I'm mistaken, Dr. Peterson is taking his *second* vacation during the pandemic--he keeps signing his posts, "Posted from Seaside, OR." I guess that explains why he had to record his FAIR talk early: he was too busy traveling, satisfying his own gluttony and self-interests, and pissing all over health officials' recommendations just because he feels like it. This guy really is human garbage--completely self-centered, with zero regard for other people.
But he'll let you know he has traveled more miles than you ever have, thank you, so he is always right.
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Philo Sofee wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:18 pm
Doctor Scratch wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:16 pm
Kwaku doesn't have good examples to look up to. I mean, unless I'm mistaken, Dr. Peterson is taking his *second* vacation during the pandemic--he keeps signing his posts, "Posted from Seaside, OR." I guess that explains why he had to record his FAIR talk early: he was too busy traveling, satisfying his own gluttony and self-interests, and pissing all over health officials' recommendations just because he feels like it. This guy really is human garbage--completely self-centered, with zero regard for other people.
But he'll let you know he has traveled more miles than you ever have, thank you, so he is always right.
In a separate post, this is what he said:
Sic et Non wrote: (We’re trying to be very careful about the COVID-19 virus, not least out of concern for a father-on-law in his 94th year, a 90+-year-old woman that my wife regularly visits, and a good friend who is fighting a serious cancer.).
Well, he doesn't care that much! Because if he did, then why is he taking another vacation? Do you think he and Mrs. P. are going to quarantine for 14 days once they get back? Of course they aren't. Because at the end of the day, you only get one life, and they sure as hell aren't going to blow it on other people. Which is weird, if you think about it, because Midgley is constantly carrying on about life being a "probation," so you would think that DCP would be okay with the concept of sacrifice. (I mean, he allegedly worships Jesus for sacrificing himself, no?) But, no: the coronavirus is being grossly unfair! How dare it take away a man's summer vacation!

Like I said: he only cares about himself.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14

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