Gaslighting really? Hollywood would never engage in social engineering.... a crazy idea exactly like your allusions to a belief in black magic and vampires says the guy who uses words like “Nuero-Linguistic Programing.”moksha wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:55 pmThis seems a bit like crazy talk, since you forgot to include Grigori Rasputin and Vlad the Impaler.
Yeah i agree. Its a good analogy. I think exmos get stuck in a world where they are neither gentile nor Mormon and their social currency and values system are not only worthless but often a detriment.honorentheos wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:49 pmWhen I was elementary school age, a friend and I would often ride our bikes to a small pizza place that had a small video arcade in it. We'd drop a five and exchange our hard earned time converted to money into a currency that only had value at that particular pizza joint. Then we'd spend the tokens on games. Sometimes we'd grab a pizza, other times we just went there to get out of the heat and play the new games they brought in. Depending on how the day went we might have to leave before the tokens were gone and we'd have to keep them for next time or they'd be worthless.
I tend to think growing up into adulthood in the Mormon church had an exchange rate of time-to-social capital not unlike exchanging something of liquid value (time) for something that has almost no value anywhere but the LDS church. I think a lot of people who end up leaving also end up with loose Mormon-social currency tokens in their pockets that represent a lot of time that they can't use elsewhere. So a message board like this becomes places where some of those tokens can be dropped. A few people become social contacts beyond board discussions, resulting in the conversion of those Mormon time tokens into new social connections that have little to do with Mormonism, and the social economics of the message board evolves.
I can’t count how often dispositevly “Mormon” moral values effect my adult life. They wouldn't exist in me if not for Mormonism and have made living a modern life difficult.
I like thinking different. (Because it gives a new world view). One of the things i did was try and read the bible as if i new nothing about religion. Obviously this is an impossible task for someone like me who has read it 20 times and was raised in the church.
But after a long time and age i came to understand the bible in a totally foreign way to the paradigm the church teaches.
It made me realize almost everything i was taught about the bible was worthless. It was a kind of sophisticated circular logic meant to trap participants in a particular world view. A worldview which is not particulary worthwhile. Its facile both moraly and philisopically.
But at the end of the day. I recognize my Mormon social capital is worthless. I lost my 5 bucks. I don't think “im gonna get every last penny of worth from this worthless dross”.
Im of the opinion that clinging to an outmoded system is harmful. You need to be both feet in, or both feet out. But that's just my two cents. (I get peoples circumstances are different. For example I don't live in Utah)