Did Allen Wyatt Get 'Demoted' at Interpreter?

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Re: Did Allen Wyatt Get 'Demoted' at Interpreter?

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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:37 pm
Dr Exiled wrote:
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Doctor Scratch, Coach P doesn't want to admit your influence, doesn't want to admit the mistake of hiring a "less than" in their eyes, once you pointed that out. It's so obvious, even to the underling worshipers over at sic et non.
You may be right. Did you see this post? Especially this passage?:
Sic et Non wrote:We drive along in our private vehicle. The places where we’re staying have undertaken extraordinary new sanitation measures. We don’t eat in restaurants; we get take-out or drive-through or, more commonly, we prepare our own food to eat at home or out at a picnic spot. Much is closed down, or heavily regulated. We wear masks when in public. We wash and sanitize our hands several times a day. I look back now and wonder why it had never previously occurred to me to sanitize my hands after pumping gas. For all I knew, the preceding customer was carrying the flu or the black plague. That’s a habit that I intend to continue even after the departure of COVID-19 (assuming that it will someday depart).
This is him attempting to defend himself against my criticisms that he's been irresponsible by taking a vacation during the pandemic. It is a pretty weak answer. The better answer would be one in which he justifies why his vacation was "necessary." (I already know the answer, by the way.)
I'd like to see him try to justify his trip as being "necessary." It obviously seems at odds with his continual demands to take Covid-19 seriously. But, hey, we get to hear his commentary on how Colorado is doing better than Utah. What would his acolytes do without their coach?
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Re: Did Allen Wyatt Get 'Demoted' at Interpreter?

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It's Friday, which means that, sure enough, a new blog entry has been posted at "Mormon Interpreter." It also means that, sure enough, there is no mention whatsoever--no "thank you" or nothing--of Allen Wyatt on “Sic et Non.” I guess his free labor doesn’t even merit a “thanks.” Quite telling.
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Another announcement about another "Mormon Interpreter" blog posting, and guess what? No mention of Allen Wyatt.
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Well it certainly appears that Allen has been demoted or further marginalized. Under Allen’s watch, the Interpreter has been the laughing stock among LDS scholars and many members alike. There have been some major blunders.

I don’t know much about Jeff Lindsay, except that there was a thread about him a couple of years ago regarding his article published in the Interpreter. IIRC, the article was about some Chinese science fiction novel and how it related to Mormon doctrine. Bizarre.

I guess that doesn’t give me much hope things will be more “scholarly” under Jeff’s stewardship.
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Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:20 pm
Well it certainly appears that Allen has been demoted or further marginalized. Under Allen’s watch, the Interpreter has been the laughing stock among LDS scholars and many members alike. There have been some major blunders.

I don’t know much about Jeff Lindsay, except that there was a thread about him a couple of years ago regarding his article published in the Interpreter. IIRC, the article was about some Chinese science fiction novel and how it related to Mormon doctrine. Bizarre.

I guess that doesn’t give me much hope things will be more “scholarly” under Jeff’s stewardship.
I don't know where a journal about a religion that believes in magic rocks can go as far as "scholarship." The Dales' piece was classic Interpreter nonsense. I guess it's hard when every one of Mormonism's claims is devoid of proof and the mothership of christianity isn't any better. I've read some of Jeff Lindsay's stuff and it is just his take on whatever the apologists have been putting out for years. Nothing new. He seems to like gaslighting like the rest of them. Perhaps Mr. Wyatt would do well to move on before DCP re-enacts the 2012 MI firing, except with DCP playing the "evil villain" this time.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:20 pm
Well it certainly appears that Allen has been demoted or further marginalized. Under Allen’s watch, the Interpreter has been the laughing stock among LDS scholars and many members alike. There have been some major blunders.
True. But I also think it's important to point out that Peterson was responsible to putting Wyatt in the role. Why would he think that somebody devoid of a Ph.D. was the right choice for the job? What does that tell you about his judgment, and his priorities?
I don’t know much about Jeff Lindsay, except that there was a thread about him a couple of years ago regarding his article published in the Interpreter. IIRC, the article was about some Chinese science fiction novel and how it related to Mormon doctrine. Bizarre.

I guess that doesn’t give me much hope things will be more “scholarly” under Jeff’s stewardship.
Yes. We'll have to wait and see. I think these guys are basically just "padding" for DCP. I.e., that the hope is that they will get stuck with the blame for whatever crap "Interpreter" puts out.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:20 pm
I don’t know much about Jeff Lindsay, except that there was a thread about him a couple of years ago regarding his article published in the Interpreter. IIRC, the article was about some Chinese science fiction novel and how it related to Mormon doctrine. Bizarre.
I thought working Liu Cixin's The Three-Body Problem into an article relating to Mormonism was extremely clever. Jeff Lindsay's China experience could open up the Interpreter realm of consciousness in many ways and draw it away from flinging dead cows with a trebuchet.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:20 pm
I don’t know much about Jeff Lindsay, except that there was a thread about him a couple of years ago regarding his article published in the Interpreter. IIRC, the article was about some Chinese science fiction novel and how it related to Mormon doctrine. Bizarre.

I guess that doesn’t give me much hope things will be more “scholarly” under Jeff’s stewardship.
Some of Lindsay's claims have been criticized.[10] For example, Richard Abanes, a writer critical of Mormonism, refers to Lindsay's work as "numerous self-published articles, not scholarly, extremely biased, articles often based on misinformation".[11] Some LDS people also disagree with some of Lindsay's viewpoints.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Lindsay_(engineer)

Self published, not scholarly, extremely biased, based on misinformation...he sounds perfect for the job.

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My "Spidey Sense" is tingling. Look: I just have to be honest and speak my mind. If Allen Wyatt abandons the Mopologists, it will be *the* most significant defection in the history of Mopologetics. More important than Hauglid. More important that Kerry Shirts. More important than Kevin Graham. That's how pivotal Wyatt is in this whole narrative--I hope that he realizes that. And if he were to go full-on "turncoat" and reveal all their secrets? Wow. He would be the toast of the Mormon podcast circuit! He could probably drum up a sizable readership for a tell-all biography: something that would earn far, far more money than the measly sum that his "more than 60 books" have returned.

I guess he's going to have to think long and hard about how much his loyalty to the Mopologists is worth.
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As expected, a new “article” (about Joseph Smith taking psychedelics, no less) was posted to the “Interpreter” blog today. Also as expected, there was no public mention nor thanks expressed for Allen Wyatt’s role in overseeing this publication. By my admittedly casual count, this is the third or fourth week in a row in which he hasn’t been publicly acknowledged or thanked.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14

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