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Lately too, alas, he and some of those associates in the great work of character assassination and defamation that they've undertaken have targeted you. I'm genuinely sorry about that. But there's nothing to be done, except to studiously ignore them. I've learned that from fifteen years of personal experience with this bizarre social media cancer.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... bigot.html

Peterson has studiously followed this board over the last 15 years. He draws attention to this board in almost every blogs comments section. It's almost as if Shades is paying Peterson to advertise his board. That's not a demonstration of studiously ignoring something. Let's see how long Peterson (Little Louis and KiwiFruit) can go without mentioning or drawing attention to this board. Days? Weeks? Months? or Minutes?

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Dowsing Dan Peterson has checked, checks, and will check this board multiple times a day. It is what it is, and that’s ok. What I can’t stand is his lying about it and well, lying about everything else. He and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud. His career and legacy will be quickly forgotten. The upside is he’s eaten quite a bit, as evidenced by how much he likes to share with people what’s snarfed up throughout his life. So. That’s nice his edacity is varied and frequent.

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DCP wrote:he and some of those associates in the great work of character assassination and defamation that they've undertaken have targeted you. I'm genuinely sorry about that
Hold the Phone: Is he apologizing to Gina Colvin for Louis Midgley and associates' defamation of Colvin, telling her she couldn't hack it as a Latter-Day Saint and that she's "legion", which is known to members of Christ's Church as sons of perdition who reign with Satan in Outer Darkness?

It's about time!

And to think, combine a public character assassination while at the same time dropping one's plans to confront the person or the person's family in real life!

How about you, Kiwi57, would you like to take a moment to apologize for Lou's behavior also?
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I see that somebody mentioned Lou's reprehensible up and down voting of Gina Colvin on Sic et Non, which happened at the same time he offered to visit her, betraying his duplicitous motives.

Lou's reaction? He, Kiwi57, and Dan, the three last real men of Mopologetics left to stand on their hill of sorrow and loss, down-vote the comment. Lol!

Hey Dan, keep saying "enough" as if the power of the priesthood is adding weight to your words, it's really intimidating.
FARMS refuted:

"...supporters of Billy Meier still point to the very clear photos of Pleiadian beam ships flying over his farm. They argue that for the photos to be fakes, we have to believe that a one-armed man who had no knowledge of Photoshop or other digital photography programs could have made such realistic photos and films..." -- D. R. Prothero

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:48 am
Dowsing Dan Peterson has checked, checks, and will check this board multiple times a day. It is what it is, and that’s ok. What I can’t stand is his lying about it and well, lying about everything else. He and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud. His career and legacy will be quickly forgotten. The upside is he’s eaten quite a bit, as evidenced by how much he likes to share with people what’s snarfed up throughout his life. So. That’s nice his edacity is varied and frequent.

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He and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud.


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Part of Dan “bon vivant” Peterson’s interesting, nay, psychologically fascinating personality trait is just how oblivious and schizophrenic his behavior is. For example (from some post complaining about Dr. Scratch):

“And now, he's even doubling down on his transparently false accusation. (I started to read his defenses of the charge late last night, but rapidly decided that it just wasn't worth the candle. There's truly no point.)

... But there's nothing to be done, except to studiously ignore them. I've learned that from fifteen years of personal experience with this bizarre social media cancer.”

How many times has Dowsing Dan exhorted Crazy Lou Midgley and others to just ignore Dr. Scratch, this board, or others associated with Mopologetic studies, but return to his obsessions like a dog returns to its vomit? How many times has Lousy Lou Midgley said he’s not going to respond to “Vegan Burrito” or others, only to immediately turn around and respond to them, sometimes in the very same paragraph!?

Oh, Peterson will never stop reading this board. He’ll end up like Lyin’ Lou Midgley peckering away until he finally keels over with one hand on a Dr. Pepper, and the other on a mouse clicking on MormonDiscussions.com links. What a life.

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Dan,

Is the black character in Facsimile No. 3 a NEGRO?

Just answer the question. It's that easy. It's as simple as one, two.

[ ] YES
[ ] NO

PS. I do *think* you are a racist based on your refusal to dismiss Smith's racist revelation regarding Fig. 6, of Facsimile NO. 3. Yes, I do believe, you, Dan, are a racist. Prove me wrong. Can you do that? Will you do that? If you do, I will apologize to you and never bother you again. I promise.

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How many times has Lousy Lou Midgley said he’s not going to respond to “Vegan Burrito” or others, only to immediately turn around and respond to them, sometimes in the very same paragraph!?
How many times? Too many times. And he just keeps digging his hole deeper.

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Shulem" wrote:PS. I do *think* you are a racist based on your refusal to dismiss Smith's racist revelation regarding Fig. 6, of Facsimile NO. 3. Yes, I do believe, you, Dan, are a racist.
I don't think it's FAIR to label someone a racist simply because he or she hasn't officially repudiated X or Y for the official record. There are simply too many microaggressions--like what Smith did--instances of real racism, etc. floating around in the world to sit down and type out one's denouncement of ALL of them. There just aren't enough hours in the day.

I think we humans owe it to each other to adopt the default position that one is NOT racist unless he or she proves otherwise by acts of commission, not by mere words of omission (which don't exist, since they haven't been typed).

Will you join me?

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Shulem" wrote:PS. I do *think* you are a racist based on your refusal to dismiss Smith's racist revelation regarding Fig. 6, of Facsimile NO. 3. Yes, I do believe, you, Dan, are a racist.
I don't think it's FAIR to label someone a racist simply because he or she hasn't officially repidiated X or Y for the official record. There are simply too many microaggressions--like what Smith did--instances of real racism, etc. floating around in the world to sit down and type out one's denouncement of ALL of them. There just aren't enough hours in the day.

I think we humans owe it to each other to adopt the default position that one is NOT racist unless he or she proves otherwise by acts of commission, not by mere words of omission (which don't exist, since they haven't been typed).

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You certainly make a point and I completely get what you're saying. But, I'm reminded of the Parable of the Good Samaritan in which two religious or pious persons passed by the injured Samaritan and did nothing to help him. They failed to act or speak up. They passed the poor man by and refused to help. Although it was an act of omission rather than commission, their refusal to do anything about it was based on racism, was it not?

I just need to hear some kind of admission from DCP that the Explanation of Fig. 6, is utterly wrong and should be discontinued from Mormon canon because it's so offensive.

In this instance, it's not just a matter of all lives matter -- BUT black lives matter and I want to hear that from DCP. I want to see him stop and help the poor man in Facsimile No. 3 rather than walk by doing nothing like the priest and the Levite.

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There's racism in whether somebody gets invited to a job interview, or gets to finish their sentence without being interrupted. And at that level it can also maybe sometimes be a bit fuzzy where the racism is. There are a ton of issues like that with sexism, too. There's so much that it can't all just be fuzz, but on any one given point maybe it's not completely insane to say that sometimes there's fuzz.

Getting killed by the police is a whole different level far beyond all of that, just like getting sexually assaulted is a different level. When those things are the topic you don't raise ifs and buts. If somebody doesn't get that, what the hell?

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Shulem wrote:
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I want to hear that from DCP. I want to see him stop and help the poor man in Facsimile No. 3 rather than walk by doing nothing like the priest and the Levite.
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Once again Daniel “plagiarizin’” Peterson fails to ignore the board:

“I have one anonymous emailer, for instance -- he's unmistakably connected with Shades's message board, where Self-Exiled and Moksha publish their major works -- who has been sending me personally insulting notes for nearly eight years. (I keep a file of his emails for possible future use with the authorities; the earliest specimen that I have in the file dates to 4 August 2012.) He sent me six yesterday, for example. At 7:01 AM, 8:12 AM, 10:23 AM, 11:38 AM, 2:26 PM, and 10:04 PM.

I've scarcely ever even alluded to him.”

Except he’s alluded to him, what, a dozen times now? Funny that Doubtful Dan won’t post the emails in their full format so we can help him figure out who his stalking culprit is...

And right on cue Louis “Salacious B.Crumb” Midgley cackles and howls with delight:

“Dan: You have made two bad mistakes. How so? You mentioned "Shades's message board," which might summon him from the darkness. And you mentioned that you are keeping a file. The mere mention of doing such a thing might send those inmates, some of whom are already more than a bit paranoid, over the edge. And, given COVID-19, hospital beds seem to be in short supply.“

Quite the opposite, Mr.Crumb. We’d welcome the opportunity to ferret out this stalker, since, you know, we don’t like creepy stalkers.

What say you, Mr. Peterson? Would you like our assistance with catching your own personal Louis Midgley?

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Dan obviously does not want to catch the stalker. It gives him clout with the leadership and fans of his church and blog. It would be a travesty to actually end the stalking on his take. Suffering persecution like his hero Joseph Smith. He bristles with pride about it, not laments and cringes in fear and loathing. He's playing this silly phony image for all it's worth. It's the only value he has.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:42 am
He’ll end up like Lyin’ Lou Midgley peckering away until he finally keels over with one hand on a Dr. Pepper, and the other on a mouse clicking on MormonDiscussions.com links.

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Wow, that Comments Section is crazy!

My favorite part is the poster "Sledge," who, writing under a pseudonym, decries the anonymous cowardice of others and compares Shades' websites to a white guy publishing a website called "Black people information."

This genius then goes on to say, "even if you claim that there is nothing bigoted on your site, it's [sic] very existence *is* bigoted."

I wonder whether he thinks that there is a racial equivalent to being ex-Mormon. Scratch that. I probably don't want to know what s/he thinks.
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Sledge also attempts to Doxx people routinely, and sometimes Dr. Peterson falls for it. Atrocious behavior.

I see that Dr. Peterson made another grand gesture recently, encouraging his guests to "ignore" MormonDiscussions.com. This isn't because he thinks its the right thing to do -- clearly he thinks this forum is a vile sewer -- but presumably because he actually and literally entered into a contract with me to do precisely that. I may just post a new thread with all of the emails, and all of the evidence of his violations, just to keep it in one place. He is openly acting like a liar and a thief, while occasionally pretending at good faith. That isn't how "good faith" works, Dan.

This isn't a petty public forum back-and-forth drama, but a legitimately aggrieved party in a private contract, voicing extreme dissatisfaction for one last time. I fulfilled my part of the contract -- in fact, below is the text of Dan's email confirming my side of the deal fulfilled. Dan eagerly promised to fulfill his part -- which extends no further than to stop trash talking MormonDiscussions.com and to moderate such comments from his blog. Also known as being nice, discouraging sweeping denigration of the many to spite a few, turning the other cheek, leading by example, etc. etc. etc.

Now what was my motivation for engaging in such a contract with Dr. Peterson? I'll keep that to myself. It doesn't matter. What does matter is that the contract was real, he entered into it using his BYU email address, he did so voluntarily and eagerly, and now many months later, despite warning after warning, he continues to violate that contract almost every day.

I mean, what is so irresistible about expressing seething hostility toward an entire open forum, anyway? Yes, a few people here have self-selected to be "DCP watchdogs" with tenacity. Hazard of public figure, Dan, get over it already. But that isn't most users of this board, who are far more interested in discussing contemporary and historical issues about Mormonism freely and critically.

Back to my complaint with Dan -- he DID promise to ignore the board, he did promise to stop the denigration of this forum as a "long term vision", and he did that in order to raise money for the Interpreter. He did so via his BYU email account.

And yet, see below are additional instances in which Dan Peterson continues to show that he simply cannot keep his word. For some unknown reason, he simply cannot go for more than a few days without railing, or allowing his friends to rail, against MormonDiscussions.com. The very thing he promised NOT to do, lol!!

May be I should just stop being nice and create a new thread, documenting all of the details of our emails related to this contract, and his repeated violations thereof, up to the minute. Perhaps someone will notice and talk some reason into the man. As in, to do more than respond now and then, after I post fresh few examples of his bad faith, with a patronizing comment somewhere like "A fellow over there made a generous donation to Interpreter in exchange for my good word, so please just ignore that board, I keep my promises... and now I am showing good faith -- see?"

Ahem, no Dan, everyone except apparently your devoted minions can see -- indeed, people message me all the time asking why I give you chance after chance after chance -- that you are not keeping your promise, that in fact you are acting in abjectly bad faith. Frankly, it's pathetic. You can't get mad at people for calling you dishonest when you do dishonest things. So, how about this -- just actually keep your promise by cutting out the hostile, blanket trash talking about this forum and its diverse people, and make an actual a good faith effort to strongly discourage such comments on your blog. I know you can, but WILL you?

Again, I didn't force Dan to enter this contract -- he chose it, enthusiastically. It isn't that hard. It's really not. And to be clear, I prefer relationships over transactions. If anyone has seen my other posts on this matter, I made it clear that Dan, through ongoing good faith, should consider me a potential future Interpreter donor. But he's forcing me to babysit his ridiculous insistence on being a petulant child, unaccountable for his own behavior on one simple transaction.

No wonder Bradford fired him. He's categorically impossible to deal with rationally. And evidently it's impossible to avoid breaking his promise when interacting 1-on-1 with individuals who choose to post on Sic et Non as representatives of no one but themselves.

To illustrate, some fresh examples of Dan Peterson's bad faith, within only the past 5 days (emphasis mine):
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4967237129
5 days ago
Look. I understand the dogmatic assumptions of your home message board, and I have no illusions about talking you out of them. But they're wrong.
In any case, you have enough evidence to convince yourself and the strongly-predisposed lot over at the Ex-LDS QAnon clubhouse that I'm an angry and hate-consumed bigot, and I have enough to demonstrate to reasonable people that I'm not. I suggest that you concentrate your efforts over there, where your chances of success are roughly 100% (and have been roughly 100% since the board's founding).

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4967168252
5 days ago
I will not permit the comments section of my blog to be colonized by his unfortunate message board. Sufficient to that place are the evils thereof.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4971289633
a day ago
Sorry, Moksha. I don't grant your implicit equation of supposed "vileness" here with the very real vileness of several of the folks on who set the tone of your message board.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4972244008
16 hours ago
Wow. Don't share that comment in any of the meetings of the Ex-LDS QAnon chapter that you host. Their lives might suddenly seem entirely worthless to them.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4972940962
11 minutes ago
Not over at your message board, it wasn't.

Among the Ex-LDS QAnon faction that sets the style and tone for your board, my bigotry is one of the principal articles of their Creed.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4972217260
17 hours ago
So you say; and yet, here you are, trying to make his blog an outpost of your fetid swamp.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4970288300
2 days ago
Shades, stop trying to bait me. When everyone from your hate site stops littering this place, you can count on me to not mention it.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4972215829
17 hours ago
The fact is that your purpose-built libel factory - a.k.a. the Peterson Obsession Board - is the world centre of anti-Dan defamation.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4971966124
a day ago
1. I didn't mention your swamp. (Note to Shades: you may have to expand the parameters of your search if you want to be instantly notified as soon as anyone mentions your festering ooze here.)

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4968573634
4 days ago
Hmm, I think you might be overstating things a bit if you suggest that Sledge's remarks rise to the level of a mote, and understating the contributions from the Sty if you think they are only as small as a beam by comparison.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4968569375
4 days ago
The main reason I did not respond to your falsehoods at Scumbag Central is simply that I don't wish to have anything more to do with the place. The stench of it is sickening. A lesser reason is that your post looked like a deliberate attempt to provoke just such a response, and I didn't want to give you the satisfaction.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4971040874
2 days ago
Now you, a non-Mormon, set up a website called "Mormon information."
Now, of course, even if you proclaim that there is nothing hateful on your site (which isn't true in the first place), its very existence *is* bigoted.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4969977029
3 days ago
And your hate site is the platform upon which several pseudonymous cowards launch their hate.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4969973036
3 days ago
Sl: Your sites are bigoted hate sites because they specifically attack someone else's religion. The definition of bigot is "a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion."

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4972278173
16 hours ago
But the "irregulars"--that is, those who have come to sic et non to blast away at the faith of Latter-day Saints, with what Moksha calls zingers, should go back to their disgusting home board, and do their thing there.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4972985840
11 minutes ago
I was a bit cautious about identifying the tile of my essay because I had a feeling that I would be asking for trouble from those on the hate board.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4972953007
36 minutes ago
Moksha, whose world is a hate board, does not seem to seem to realize that Elder David O. McKay has passed away.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4970475046
2 days ago
Moksha cannot seem to resist the urge to bring the hatred for me that he celebrates on his home hate board and exhibited on Gina Colvin's blog to sic et non.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4972278173
16 hours ago
But the "irregulars"--that is, those who have come to sic et non to blast away at the faith of Latter-day Saints, with what Moksha calls zingers, should go back to their disgusting home board, and do their thing there.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4970762422
2 days ago
Dan: You have made two bad mistakes. How so? You mentioned "Shades's message board," which might summon him from the darkness. And you mentioned that you are keeping a file. The mere mention of doing such a thing might send those inmates, some of whom are already more than a bit paranoid, over the edge. And, given COVID-19, hospital beds seem to be in short supply.


Simple solution: since you are clearly incapable of acting in good faith, just send the money back, and you'll be free to do all of this without the annoyance of being called out for acting in bad faith.

For the record, Dan's confirmation that my side of our contract was fulfilled:
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Daniel Peterson <daniel_peterson@BYU.edu>
Date: Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 10:48 PM
Subject: Gracias!
To: Moore <XXXXX@XXX.com>


It seems that your promised donation to the Interpreter Foundation has arrived.  (Precisely how long ago it arrived, I don’t know.  It’s been a while since I’ve been to the P.O. box.)
Thank you!
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Dr. Moore,

It’s clear that the Interpreter needs to return your contribution. DCP, for reasons that escape me, is unable to keep his promise.
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[quote="Dr Moore"]I may just post a new thread with all of the emails, and all of the evidence of his violations, just to keep it in one place. He is openly acting like a liar and a thief, while occasionally pretending at good faith. That isn't how "good faith" works, Dan....

Maybe I should just stop being nice and create a new thread, documenting all of the details of our emails related to this contract, and his repeated violations thereof, up to the minute. Perhaps someone will notice and talk some reason into the man.[/quote]

I think this would be a valuable contribution to Cassius U's mission of studying Mopologetics. Many a person would benefit from the documented history of Mopologist behavior and how that impacts the broader discussion of Mormonism.

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Dr. Moore:

So you *did* wind up donating money, despite the fact that the agreement had been violated? I hope you didn't give him the entire 10 grand! It seems to me that you have every right to feel like you were ripped off.
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