Rules of Patheos: Midgley appears to violate TOS 10x

[moksha]

Moksha • 17 hours ago

Dr. Peterson - If we were to run into a person who thought it ethically permissible, even a moral imperative, to eliminate the Jews or to enslave African Blacks or to burn widows on funeral pyres, as we might easily have done in Nazi Germany or the American Confederacy or the pre-1829 Indian subcontinent, most of us wouldn’t simply have said “Oh well” and observed that different societies and cultures see things differently.

President Hinckley would suggest we stand for something and at the very least it should be in loud opposition to such atrocious ideas and actions. We should take it to the streets if need be; our conscience would be clearer if we did so. Whoever degrades the least of these people degrades the greatest.

But we can’t prove them the way Galileo demonstrated (supposedly from the campanile at Pisa) that objects of different mass fall at the same speed. We can’t demonstrate them by chemical analysis, or by counting elk in the Canadian Rockies, or by measuring tree rings or peering deep into space or dissecting frogs.

Or by counting downvotes made by Dr. Shades.


Louis Midgley Moksha • 14 hours ago • edited
Moksha: I counted fake Dr. Shades upvotes, not downvotes, of the truly, unwarranted, nasty, disgusting things that were packed into the comments about me by you and others from the Sty who took over the Kiwi Mormon blog. Those upvotes constitute solid evidence--even proof--that Dr. Shakes is himself in full agreement with the rubbish in those comments.

Moksha Louis Midgley • 13 hours ago
Just as long as there is a full search for the duplicate set of keys to determine which one of the Shades crew took the strawberries you will get to the bottom of it, Sir.


Louis Midgley Moksha • 13 hours ago
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https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4937828045

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

What in the everliving ____ does attractiveness have to do with anything?

"I am confident both both Joanna and Gina are attractive women with whom I would enjoy having a polite conversation."

The Keeviler elf thinks much, much too highly of himself. Also, when did this:

"I have explained to Nathan McCluskey that Joanna Brooks has already lost credibility..." happen?

God he's such a little lying twat.

- Doc

[Dr LOD]

I would love to see Midgley publish this review.

Personal challenge to you professor. Let’s see if you can do an actual objective review of the content of the book.

I think most of what he posted here is a lie. He really didn’t say any of that to Colvins Husband. He is too much of a coward.

Charles: If you have in mind Decolonizing Mormonism, I have read the book. You are clearly not paying attention. Yesterday I posted the following comment Decolonizing Mormonism, which is a collection of essays edited by Gina Colvin and Joanna Brooks. What follows is my comment that you seem to have ignored:
But I want to do a little advertising for a very odd book. Why? One must also keep in mind that Joanna Brooks has also been the co-editor, with Gina Colvin, of a book entitled Decolonizing Mormonism: Approaching a Postcolonial Zion (2018).
One of the things that I have discussed with Dr. Nathan McCluskey, Gina Colvin's husband was whether I was planning on writing something about his wife. And I said that I have actually begun to draft a scathing review of some portions of this book. But that I have lost interest in finishing my essay because Gina has now lost credibility with the Latter-day Saint audience by becoming an Anglican lay preacher of some sort, and joining the now dying Community of Christ--that is, that new sinking ship.
But I have within two inches of my left hand a copy of this collection of essays that begins with an essay entitled "A Maori Mormon [sic] Testimony" (pp. 27-46). A what? Really?
And the second essay is by Thomas Murphy of all people (pp. 47-66). And then an essay by Joanna Brooks, Gina Colvin's co-editor, entitled "Mormonism [sic] as Colonialism, Mormonism [sic] as Anti-Colonialism, Mormonism [sic] as Minor Transformationalism: Historical and Contemporary Perspectives" (pp. 163-185).
This very uneven collection of essays is has an "Introduction: Approaching a Postcolonial Zion," by both Gina Colvin and Joanna Brooks (pp. 1-23).
I have explained to Nathan McCluskey that Joanna Brooks has already lost credibility and with now Gina having resigned her already radically flawed membership in the Church of Jesus Christ, that I have lost interest in describing the worst of the worst essays in this book.
But my interest in doing so might easily be revived.

[I have a question]

I would love to see Midgley publish this review.

Personal challenge to you professor. Let’s see if you can do an actual objective review of the content of the book.

I think most of what he posted here is a lie. He really didn’t say any of that to Colvins Husband. He is too much of a coward.

Charles: If you have in mind Decolonizing Mormonism, I have read the book. You are clearly not paying attention. Yesterday I posted the following comment Decolonizing Mormonism, which is a collection of essays edited by Gina Colvin and Joanna Brooks. What follows is my comment that you seem to have ignored:
But I want to do a little advertising for a very odd book. Why? One must also keep in mind that Joanna Brooks has also been the co-editor, with Gina Colvin, of a book entitled Decolonizing Mormonism: Approaching a Postcolonial Zion (2018).
One of the things that I have discussed with Dr. Nathan McCluskey, Gina Colvin's husband was whether I was planning on writing something about his wife. And I said that I have actually begun to draft a scathing review of some portions of this book. But that I have lost interest in finishing my essay because Gina has now lost credibility with the Latter-day Saint audience by becoming an Anglican lay preacher of some sort, and joining the now dying Community of Christ--that is, that new sinking ship.
But I have within two inches of my left hand a copy of this collection of essays that begins with an essay entitled "A Maori Mormon [sic] Testimony" (pp. 27-46). A what? Really?
And the second essay is by Thomas Murphy of all people (pp. 47-66). And then an essay by Joanna Brooks, Gina Colvin's co-editor, entitled "Mormonism [sic] as Colonialism, Mormonism [sic] as Anti-Colonialism, Mormonism [sic] as Minor Transformationalism: Historical and Contemporary Perspectives" (pp. 163-185).
This very uneven collection of essays is has an "Introduction: Approaching a Postcolonial Zion," by both Gina Colvin and Joanna Brooks (pp. 1-23).
I have explained to Nathan McCluskey that Joanna Brooks has already lost credibility and with now Gina having resigned her already radically flawed membership in the Church of Jesus Christ, that I have lost interest in describing the worst of the worst essays in this book.
But my interest in doing so might easily be revived.

When did Dr Colvin resign her LDS Church membership?

[Lemmie]

Kishkumen mentioned recently how disrespectful Midgley was of Colvin’s choice of worship. He seems intent on making the same mistake repeatedly:

Midgley:

One of the things that I have discussed with Dr. Nathan McCluskey, Gina Colvin's husband was whether I was planning on writing something about his wife. And I said that I have actually begun to draft a scathing review of some portions of this book. But that I have lost interest in finishing my essay because Gina has now lost credibility with the Latter-day Saint audience by becoming an Anglican lay preacher of some sort, and joining the now dying Community of Christ--that is, that new sinking ship.

http://disq.us/p/29p0rqi

Next time Midgley rants about gemli “disrespecting” his LDS faith, maybe that can be re-posted for him (including his lie about speaking to Colvin’s husband).

[I have a question]

Who paid for Midgley's trip to New Zealand?

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

I'm only posting this because of Lyin' Lou's penchant for criticizing people's grammar or misuse of the English language:

"Dan: I am right now starting an informal Charles Squelched on Bet Club? What I am getting at is that I right now promise to donate five hundred dollars in remembrance of Charles. Why would I do that? So that every time he posts on Dan's blog I can point out that he squelched and I came to his rescue."

The absolute doorknob doesn't understand what the word 'welsh' means, and instead is using a word that kind of sounds like it.

BYU PROFESSOR. Bon vivant. Peripatetic stalker.

- Doc

[moksha]

Midgley:

One of the things that I have discussed with Dr. Nathan McCluskey, Gina Colvin's husband was whether I was planning on writing something about his wife. And I said that I have actually begun to draft a scathing review of some portions of this book. But that I have lost interest in finishing my essay because Gina has now lost credibility with the Latter-day Saint audience by becoming an Anglican lay preacher of some sort, and joining the now dying Community of Christ--that is, that new sinking ship.

Perhaps New Zealanders are very polite people like Canadians, but you would think someone would step in here and let Professor Midgley know that he had crossed several lines of decorum. Actually the term insufferably rude comes to mind. This was in a Church in which he was a visitor. It was not the rough and tumble saloon hall of Sic et Non or FARMS. Insulting someone's wife in front of their husband should have drawn a strong rebuke or resulted in being escorted out. No fisticuffs in the chapel of the Lord, please. There is no way the Area President or Stake President would have approved of this Midgley ambush. That lady who presented him with the pendant would not have been so kind if she had known of this loutish behavior. She probably had been lead to believe he was some sort of visiting dignitary or admirable person.

[Doctor Scratch]

Who paid for Midgley's trip to New Zealand?

That's a great question. Perhaps it was the Strengthening Church Members Committee?

[moksha]

Who paid for Midgley's trip to New Zealand?

That's a great question. Perhaps it was the Strengthening Church Members Committee?

He brought a number of his family. Couldn't this have been paid for through their collective piggybank to celebrate the triumphal return of the Professor to the scene of his past mission glory? They wouldn't have made the trip solely in anticipation of a potential Colvin ambush. That would have been the Professor's own side objective.

[Lemmie]

Beginning at the end of October 2019 on sic et non the Little Old Donkey started pounding way at me, charging falsely that I have made up a Maori past and then tried to force them to accept my version of their past in an effort to fashion what he calls a trophy Maori Saint. He claims that I am a racist because of what he falsely claims that I have done. To see that I have not made anything up, as the Little Old Donkey claims, please listen to a talk given by Dr. Robert Joseph at the 1997 Interpreter birthday party in which he addresses this same history. (Dr. Joseph is prominant Maori Latter-day Saint legal scholar and historian.) See https://interpreterfoundati...

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4939816274

A “trophy Maori Saint”? Wow, Midgley is really ratcheting up the exaggerations lies. I can easily see how he works himself into a state where he smacks his own head, and spins around.

[Dr LOD]

Beginning at the end of October 2019 on sic et non the Little Old Donkey started pounding way at me, charging falsely that I have made up a Maori past and then tried to force them to accept my version of their past in an effort to fashion what he calls a trophy Maori Saint. He claims that I am a racist because of what he falsely claims that I have done. To see that I have not made anything up, as the Little Old Donkey claims, please listen to a talk given by Dr. Robert Joseph at the 1997 Interpreter birthday party in which he addresses this same history. (Dr. Joseph is prominant Maori Latter-day Saint legal scholar and historian.) See https://interpreterfoundati...

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4939816274

A “trophy Maori Saint”? Wow, Midgley is really ratcheting up the exaggerations lies. I can easily see how he works himself into a state where he smacks his own head, and spins around.

I don’t remember using the word “Trophy” in any of my communications with him. I did say his versions turn the Maori into a faith promoting mascot, and a prop to support his religious beliefs. Which very much fits the definition of cultural appropriation.

I would agree that he did get pounded. In all fairness I have dealt with his type before. I avoided personal attacks for quite a while after he began to engaged in plenty of his own.

He is pissed because I exposed a truth about him he never considered.

[moksha]

What does the phrase “trophy Maori Saint” mean in this (or any) context?

[Doctor Scratch]

Midgley wants people to admire and respect his paternalistic treatment of the Maori. Bearing that in mind, who knows what he means by "trophy Maori Saint"? He's using the term in a dismissive and bitterly sarcastic way: like it's some insulting label that has been dumped onto him. Like he (Midgley) thinks that Dr. LOD is accusing him of using the Maori to further his own ends (which he absolutely is). Look: I don't doubt that Midgley is "enchanted" by Maori people, and really loves New Zealand, etc. But he's wrong to assume that his fetishization of these people is a "badge of honor." It doesn't make him in any way a better or admirable person, and if anything, it comes across as exploitative. It's like he's "using" them in an effort to prove that he's a sensitive, kind, understanding person, which, of course, comes across as a ludicrous proposition when you read his posts.

[Dr LOD]

What does the phrase “trophy Maori Saint” mean in this (or any) context?

With Midgley there is always a certain degree of psychological projection contained in what he says.

He probably means his “Trophy Maori” which I think would be the law Professor Robert Joseph. What I was able to find out about the guy he is pretty impressive. He is heavily involved in indigenous legal rights. But I really don’t see him putting up with the type of apologetic BS that Midgley engages in, if he knew the true nature of it and how they manipulate the definition of Lehite and Maori culture to suit their needs.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

I can't help myself. Midgley does this to himself. From this statement:

"Seatimer: The primary complaint against Trump is that he simply cannot tell the truth, and is rude and crude, given to really stupid name-calling, and knows exactly nothing about how to be President of the United States."

a small adjustment reveals his projection:

"Seatimer: The primary complaint against Louis C. Midgley is that he simply cannot tell the truth, and is rude and crude, given to really stupid name-calling, and knows exactly nothing about how to be a Latter-day Saint."

- Doc

[Philo Sofee]

Midgley reminds me of Trump in another respect. He almost seems to demand respect. But you can't do that, you can, however, earn it. But in both cases, the President idiot in the White House, and the Mormon Latter Day Saint dude, they first have to be respectful, which is beyond their pay grade.

I am very grateful The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is inspired to let Sic et Non continue touting and pouting and present the very best of imbecile Mormons. The Lord truly works in mysterious ways.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Louis “little ____” Midgley once agains shows why he’s so interested in gleaning personal information when he begins to insult gemli once more:

“gemli has so little idea of how a Latter-day Saint might understand the word "miracle" that he seems to wrongly imagine that this is a substitute for a reasoned argument. Poor fellow. I hope he will be safe with this new storm approaching. And COVID-19 lurking. And the possibility that New Orleans could soon be flooded.”

What an evil little ____. And when set straight that gemli doesn’t live there?

“So gemli has fled to presumably less troubled places than his home town, where he once presumably had to escape because of a huge storm surge.”

Fled? The only little ____ that can’t hack it where he gets a little pushback is the keeviler elf. Notice how he fled from Ms. Colvin’s blog? Notice how he’s been mewing about it for weeks on end? Notice how the coward Louis Midgley won’t come here to defend his faith? Fear and loathing in Provo! Oh, poor, poor little fragile soul!

- Doc

[Lemmie]

Midgley:

I have two suggestions for Dr. Shades, and one observaion:

First: Dr. Shades should change his silly avatar with the slinky proto of "Nocchi." It seems a bit outdated. And can easily lead to assuming that the Fake Doctor is a now aging woman, or something Japanese....

http://disq.us/p/29r8ltt

:rolleyes: God forbid anyone should think a person is “a now aging women.” Or “someTHING Japanese”?

Midgley has managed to be obnoxiously sexist and disgustingly racist in a single partial sentence.

[moksha]

God forbid anyone should think Shades is “a now aging women.” Or “someTHING Japanese”?

Strange venom in a Midgley bite.

[Paloma]

I know that Dr. Peterson et al tend to really like C.S. Lewis. And I also have observed that Dr. P particularly likes this quote from The Weight of Glory:

“It is a serious thing to live in a society of possible gods and goddesses, to remember that the dullest most uninteresting person you can talk to may one day be a creature which,if you saw it now, you would be strongly tempted to worship, or else a horror and a corruption such as you now meet, if at all, only in a nightmare. All day long we are, in some degree helping each other to one or the other of these destinations. It is in the light of these overwhelming possibilities, it is with the awe and the circumspection proper to them, that we should conduct all of our dealings with one another, all friendships, all loves, all play, all politics. There are no ordinary people. You have never talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures, arts, civilizations - these are mortal, and their life is to ours as the life of a gnat. But it is immortals whom we joke with, work with, marry, snub, and exploit - immortal horrors or everlasting splendors.”

To me, this means that we (as Christians, which Mormon apologists claim as their raison d'etre) should be motivated by a genuine respect and concern for the humanity of each and every individual.

DCP, LCM and Kiwi 57 refer to this board in a disparaging manner, but I've seen WAY more integrity and true honouring of what it means to be a person of love, goodness and respect while also looking for that in others, than I've seen in the interactions of those three individuals. What I've seen in them is that they do love to "play" with people; to get "one up" on them; and to put their "opponents" down.

Yes, there is harsh criticism here, but I see it coming from a different place. It doesn't come from a world of "us" and "them", of "buddies" and "enemies". It comes from people hoping for MORE (more humanity, more integrity, more fairness,etc.) from those who position themselves as leaders, scholars and spokespersons within The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.