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Lemmie wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:47 pm
Midgley

Those who are annoyed by my teasing gemli simple do not appreciate what Professor Peterson and I, and others, call the Fun Factor in responding to some ideologies.
Yeah, they are just a bunch of playful guys over there. Too bad Lou becomes a shrill lout when someone teases his own faith.
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The peckerhead is really agitated at the suggestion Political Science isn’t really a science, whatever that means:

“Louis “the peckerhead” Midgley > gemli “the winsome”

gemli sort of suspects many things, but actually knowing something is quite a different thing. It just happens that every university, except in Communist China has a Political Science Department and also other social science departments. So I am not the only one who thinks that political science is a science. And I think that I will continue to do so, untel [sic] gemli provides a reason for not doing so.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_U ... ce_and_Law

Dowsin’ Dan must really have some sort of perverse psychological itch that’s scratched when The Peckerhead makes a fool of himself, and by extension BYU. It’s sad to see a supposed friend allow another friend to make a public spectacle of himself and drive his reputation into the dirt.

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In another installment of the peckerhead vs. the peckerhead:

“... would you right now provide the demonstration, but without question begging, or merely a series of bald assertions? Please keep in mind that in 8005 comments you have yet to provide evidence to support any of your dogma.”

vs.

“ gemli: If you are mocking the Book of Mormon, then you should know that there evidence that it is an authentic history of real people.”

Slam. ____. Dunk.

BYU professor. Political ‘Scientism’ dogmatist. Peckerhead.

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" So I am not the only one who thinks that political science is a science."

When he meets Bill Hamblin again in the next life, good luck trying to explain that to him.

And re: the comment about "having a good time making fun of the beliefs of certain people"

Yeah, we know about that, and we know that you're hypocrites on this whole "anti" thing.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.

LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.

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Much better to change the name to Political Studies. The Home Economics program at BYU was absorbed into the College of Family, Home, and Social Sciences along with this so-called "Political Science", where they can both share classes on The Eternal Family and Textiles.

The BYU Political Studies department did gain notoriety back in 1972 when a Ph.D. candidate taped open the doors to the Watergate Hotel in Washington D.C. Do you suspect Louis Midgley was on his committee?
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Hey, there’s also the sweet science of pugilism. And Christian Science is called that by non-members as well as by Christian Scientists themselves. A modern set of conventions for Contract Bridge is called “scientific bidding”. These all say “science” on the tin. I guess they must all be the same.

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Midgley continues to propogate a known lie:

Louis Midgley Glen Danielsen a day ago

... Professor Ritner has his own personal reasons for his hostility to the Church of Jesus Christ and also to Professor Gee, which got Ritner removed from Gee's dissertation committee at Yale.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 5056935313

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And Peterson, who knows it’s a lie, covers for the liar:

Mol Snod Louis Midgley • 4 hours ago • edited

Dr. Midgley, why do you assume that Dr. Ritner was removed from Dr. Gee’s dissertation because of an interpersonal conflict?


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DanielPeterson Mod Mol Snod • 3 hours ago

Professor Midgley, don't get into this. The newly arrived "Mol Snod" is hoping to stir something up and even, if possible, to provoke some litigation. Don't take the bait.

Mol Snod, drop the subject. If you bring it up again, that will be your last comment here -- and it will be deleted.

I know what happened. I heard about it as it was happening. Others know what happened, too.


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Mol Snod DanielPeterson • 3 hours ago

What could my question possibly do to cause litigation? You think way to highly of me.


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DanielPeterson Mod Mol Snod • 3 hours ago

There's history behind this, as, I'm confident, you know full well.

Don't raise the subject again.

http://disq.us/p/2bnq1rc
What litigation is Peterson worried about? Is he concerned that Midgley’s remarks —that he allows to stand on his blog, uncorrected—-can be considered libelous? One would think that Peterson would use his mod powers to delete libel. So far, he has let it stand.

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Letting it stand is a pretty good ploy for a tried-and-true strategy of maligning the enemy by insider knowledge that can't be revealed. The apologists always seem to have insider knowledge about people who own them, information that if people knew about it, would ruin the critic's credibility, but for whatever reasons, isn't going to be revealed. And so we can go ahead and update our analysis as if it were revealed.

"I know something about that guy over there who just raised a point that I don't have a good answer to. I'm not going to say what it is, but if you knew about it, you'd greatly consider taking his opinions with a grain of salt."
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.

LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.

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Lemmie wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:59 pm
What litigation is Peterson worried about? Is he concerned that Midgley’s remarks —that he allows to stand on his blog, uncorrected—-can be considered libelous? One would think that Peterson would use his mod powers to delete libel. So far, he has let it stand.
Or it could be different than Gadianton proposes: What if, being the loose cannon, Dr. Midgley were to blab a totally erroneous story that had been concocted by the apologists and which contained provable slander? Enough that BYU would regard the Interpreter crew as liabilities? If so, it is understandable why Dr. Peterson immediately cautioned Midgley not to answer.
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moksha wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:17 pm
Lemmie wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:59 pm
What litigation is Peterson worried about? Is he concerned that Midgley’s remarks —that he allows to stand on his blog, uncorrected—-can be considered libelous? One would think that Peterson would use his mod powers to delete libel. So far, he has let it stand.
Or it could be different than Gadianton proposes: What if, being the loose cannon, Dr. Midgley were to blab a totally erroneous story that had been concocted by the apologists and which contained provable slander? Enough that BYU would regard the Interpreter crew as liabilities? If so, it is understandable why Dr. Peterson immediately cautioned Midgley not to answer.
The problem is, Midgley already answered, and, as Gad pointed out, “letting it stand” actually does leave Midgley’s post in place that maligns and libels Ritner. Peterson’s only out at this point is to insist that Midgley is a senile fool who is not responsible for the libel he posts. Otherwise, Peterson is as guilty as Midgley of libeling Ritner.

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Louis Midgley Mol Snod • 30 minutes ago

Dan: I have no intention of saying more about this.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 5058704940
Midgley will say “no more.” But will Peterson remove Midgley’s libel of Ritner that triggered his warning?

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Louis "peckerhead" Midgley draws a line in the sand in order for us rubes to figure out who has 'science' figured out:

"Louis "peckerhead" Midgley > the winsome gemli

gemli: You seem to have failed to notice that Professor Peterson subscribes to Scientific American, and teaches at a university where all the sciences are taught."

That, my friends, is a BYU professor. As a refresher it might help to understand neither Dowsin' Daniel Peterson nor Louis "peckerhead" Midgley have been using scientism correctly when attempt obscure the winsome gemli's points:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientism#Pro-scientism

It's a one minute read if anyone is interested.

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That's a good thread, Cam. Gemli is cleaning house. Check out this one:

" Abiogenesis is a scientific question, and it will be answered in the future. The existence of gods is also a scientific question, but it will be answered by understanding human psychology."

Lol!

The blog owner responds to "...existence of gods is also a scientific question":

"Not likely."

Yet, 2 out of 3 threads at Sic et Non are just this: scientific arguments for a God. In this very thread, the Proprietor laments all the science he was taught as a youth as bad science "I was taught wrong". Real science shows that there is a creator, and that Gemli disagrees, proves to Mr. Midgley and others that Gemli doesn't understand science. To understand science properly, is to understand the existence of God. God may be the most important topic of the physical sciences.

Sure, lest they make a lame complaint about "proof", we recognize none of these articles intend to definitively prove there is a God, but many things in science aren't proven, but just shown to be more likely than not, like climate science. Other things are difficult to observe directly, if such observation even makes sense, like strings and twisters, yet they are part of scientific discussion.

Sic et Non has made God not only a scientific question, but probably the most proper scientific question ever asked.

The self-deception around those parts is really staggering.
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LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.

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God would certainly be the most proper scientific subject, if God could be measured. That's a bit of a hitch.

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Just a quick note. The peckerhead didn’t know what cop out meant. He had to Google it. I’m not making it up.

BYU professor, folks.

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Dr. Midgley opining on the priesthood and temple ban:
As is now known there were Blacks who joined the Church of Jesus Christ early on. In New Zealand, beginning on Christmas Day in 1882, Maori began to join the Church because they had their own matakite (seers) who prepared them for our missionaries and their message, which fits snugly with the most authentic of ancient Maori lore. And soon the Church of Jesus Christ in New Zealand was primarily Maori. Sixty eight years later, the community of Saints in New Zealand was essentially Maori, and it was difficult to get Pakeha (Europeans) to join what they saw as a Maori Church. Now, of course, the Church is like the United Nations in New Zealand.

I have thought about this for many years. When I was in San Francisco in 1950 waiting to board the SS Sanom, and travel to New Zealand, I had for our five conversations with Blacks while six missionaries were waiting to board that freighter to spend a month traveling to New Zealand. But the other missionaries were not at all happy with my having a conversation with Blacks. I troubled me, but I did not cease doing so, or get into an argument with those five other missionaries. What I discovered then is that out our message resonates with Blacks everywhere. But if we had made any real effort to take our message to Blacks early on, we would have become a Black Church, and then Europeans would have refused to join a Black Church. I have come to realize that the Lord has his own way of doing things.
This is one of the most bizarre explanations I’ve seen.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 5060314667

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Tom wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:43 am
Dr. Midgley opining on the priesthood and temple ban:
As is now known there were Blacks who joined the Church of Jesus Christ early on. In New Zealand, beginning on Christmas Day in 1882, Maori began to join the Church because they had their own matakite (seers) who prepared them for our missionaries and their message, which fits snugly with the most authentic of ancient Maori lore. And soon the Church of Jesus Christ in New Zealand was primarily Maori. Sixty eight years later, the community of Saints in New Zealand was essentially Maori, and it was difficult to get Pakeha (Europeans) to join what they saw as a Maori Church. Now, of course, the Church is like the United Nations in New Zealand.

I have thought about this for many years. When I was in San Francisco in 1950 waiting to board the SS Sanom, and travel to New Zealand, I had for our five conversations with Blacks while six missionaries were waiting to board that freighter to spend a month traveling to New Zealand. But the other missionaries were not at all happy with my having a conversation with Blacks. I troubled me, but I did not cease doing so, or get into an argument with those five other missionaries. What I discovered then is that out our message resonates with Blacks everywhere. But if we had made any real effort to take our message to Blacks early on, we would have become a Black Church, and then Europeans would have refused to join a Black Church. I have come to realize that the Lord has his own way of doing things.
This is one of the most bizarre explanations I’ve seen.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 5060314667

So the Lord implemented the priesthood ban for 150 years so Europeans would join the Church? Is Midgley on crack? That's one of the most racist comments I've read. Obviously the Mormon god loves Europeans much more than Blacks.

Why didn't the Lord ban Europeans for 150 years so Blacks would join the Church? Someone needs to take Midgley's laptop away before he completely destroys what very little remains of his reputation.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:57 am
Tom wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:43 am
Dr. Midgley opining on the priesthood and temple ban:
This is one of the most bizarre explanations I’ve seen.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 5060314667

So the Lord implemented the priesthood ban for 150 years so Europeans would join the Church? Is Midgley on crack? That's one of the most racist comments I've read. Obviously the Mormon god loves Europeans much more than Blacks.

Why didn't the Lord ban Europeans for 150 years so Blacks would join the Church? Someone needs to take Midgley's laptop away before he completely destroys what very little remains of his reputation.
Just the way he uses "the Blacks" seems pejorative. Maybe talking like that was acceptable in 1960's BYU. But he really should shut up talking like that.

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I’m convinced Dowsin’ Dan actually hates the peckerhead.

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Midgley

our message resonates with Blacks everywhere. But if we had made any real effort to take our message to Blacks early on, we would have become a Black Church, and then Europeans would have refused to join a Black Church. I have come to realize that the Lord has his own way of doing things.
Oh my god.

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