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Didn't Coach copy a Wikipedia entry, almost word for word, without attribution, for a DN article? I remember seeing, I think it was Tom, put up the comparison a while ago. However, I can't find it. [Found Tom's comment on page 3 of this thread]
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Speaking of the Deseret News, I am reposting below some quotes from a Deseret News article where they explained their policy. This post is from page 8 of this thread. Notice the very first quote from the Deseret News article:
Lemmie wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:56 pm
from the links Tom gave:
Several paragraphs in that column erroneously failed to use quotation marks to properly attribute their source as an article written for the New York Times by Adam Grant. Grant's article was directly referenced at the opening and close of the Eyres' column.
So, even though the Grant article was referenced at the beginning and end of the column, the Deseret News considers that the lack of quotation marks within the column indicated a failure to properly attribute the source.
The Deseret News demands accuracy in attribution and sourcing. We require our columnists to submit articles that are original and accurate in content and style. The Eyres have acknowledged the seriousness of this error and have assured us this was an inadvertent oversight.
Inadvertent, in that unlike Peterson's approach, after the plagiarism was noticed, the plagiarism didn't happen again and again and again?
Given the seriousness of this mistake we have taken the following steps. We have removed the column from DeseretNews.com. The Deseret News and the Eyres have formally apologized to the New York Times and Mr. Grant. Finally, we are conducting further review of this incident and our processes.

We offer sincere apologies to both The New York Times and Mr. Grant.
So the seriousness of the mistake requires 1) the column being removed, 2) a formal apology to the plagiarized author and their publisher, and 3) further review.

Clearly Peterson doesn't deal with reports of his own plagiarism this professionally, but one would assume that his columns in the Deseret News surely must be held to their standard.
Deseret News link: https://www.deseretnews.com/article/765 ... tml?pg=all

Note that the bolded part, which Deseret News considers plagiarism, is exactly what Peterson is now arguing is NOT plagiarism.

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Someone at the Deseret News ought to take a look at Dr. Peterson's Interpreter articles, in that case.

Here is a summary. If you go find the full copied text, it fills 10 pages side-by-side in Word. That is a lot of material to pass off as original writing through a single outlet. Perhaps by the time Interpreter and/or Deseret News catches on, Dr. Peterson will have properly fixed his intentional absent mindedness, but something tells me that true professional rehabilitation will take a heavy hand.
https://www.deseret.com/2013/2/10/20448 ... -to-a-rock
(Feb 2013)

was self-plagiarized without attribution, almost entirely, in

https://journal.interpreterfoundation.o ... he-gospel/
(Volume 32, 2019)
and
https://www.deseret.com/2014/1/30/20533 ... ons-of-god
(Jan 2014)

was self-plagiarized without attribution, almost entirely, in

https://journal.interpreterfoundation.o ... he-gospel/
(Volume 32, 2019)
and
https://www.deseret.com/2013/4/25/20518 ... inevitable
(Apr 2013)

was self-plagiarized without attribution, peppered with minor revisions, in

https://journal.interpreterfoundation.o ... of-giants/
(Volume 4, May 2013)
And a few more notables:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5406/fa ... 00ix?seq=1
(2010)

was heavily re-used in presented form, with only a single footnote pointing to one argument with Lloyd Ericson, made in the 2010 article above, but no citation is provided for the massive amounts (nearly HALF of the article) of other text lifted wholly from that same article and presented as if original work. The FAIR presentation was later published by Interpreter, in

https://journal.interpreterfoundation.o ... n-studies/
(Volume 4, May 2013)

again, with no citation for massive amounts of self-plagiarized text, under the following header:

The following essay was presented on 3 August 2012 as “Of ‘Mormon Studies’ and Apologetics” at the conclusion of the annual conference of the Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research (FAIR) in Sandy, Utah. It represents the first public announcement and appearance of Interpreter: A Journal of Mormon Scripture, which had been founded only slightly more than a week earlier, on 26 July. In my view, that rapid launch was the near-miraculous product of selfless collaboration and devotion to a cause on the part of several people—notable among them David E. Bokovoy, Alison V. P. Coutts, William J. Hamblin, Bryce M. Haymond, Louis C. Midgley, George L. Mitton, Stephen D. Ricks, and Mark Alan Wright—and I’m profoundly grateful to them. This essay, which may even have some slight historical value, is something of a personal charter statement regarding that cause. It is published here with no substantial alteration.

Clearly Peterson didn't get the visibility he desired for his 2010 article, so rather than summarize the salient points, he just lifted whole sections of the original and passed them off as new work. Evidently, neither the folks at FAIR, nor those at Interpreter, noticed or minded.
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_solstice
The winter solstice, hiemal solstice or hibernal solstice, also known as midwinter, occurs when one of the Earth's poles has its maximum tilt away from the Sun. It happens twice yearly, once in each hemisphere (Northern and Southern). For that hemisphere, the winter solstice is the day with the shortest period of daylight and longest night of the year, when the Sun is at its lowest daily maximum elevation in the sky.

was plagiarized without attribution, in

https://journal.interpreterfoundation.o ... e-to-grow/
(Volume 34, 2020)
The winter solstice occurs when one of Earth’s poles has its maximum tilt away from the Sun. (Accordingly, it happens twice annually, once in the northern hemisphere and once in the southern.) For those in the northern hemisphere, it is the day when the Sun is at its lowest daily maximum elevation in the sky and the day with the year’s shortest period of daylight and the year’s longest night.
and
https://www.etymonline.com/word/compassion
Latin compassio is an ecclesiastical loan-translation of Greek sympatheia

was plagiarized without attribution, in

https://journal.interpreterfoundation.o ... he-gospel/
(Vol 32, 2019)
In its turn, Latin compassio is a fairly late ecclesiastical loan-translation of the Greek word sympatheia

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https://interpreterfoundation.org/submissions/
Citation Sources: All of the articles we publish are thoroughly source-checked.
Unless you happen to be Daniel C. Peterson?

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If someone is still looking for plagiarized Deseret News posts from Peterson, here is one which I posted in this thread Dec, 20, 2019. Peterson’s exact, word for word plagiarisms are in blue.
Lemmie wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:37 pm
In 2017, Business Insider published an article by Kate Taylor, titled:

How KFC made Christmas all about fried chicken — in Japan

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-kfc ... an-2016-12

In his Deseret News column published December 19, 2019, Dan Peterson plagiarized from the Business Insider article.


https://www.deseret.com/2019/12/19/2102 ... -japan-kfc

Below are the parts of the article plagiarized by Peterson, followed by the portion of his column containing the plagiarism. The words in blue are taken, word for word, from the Business Insider article, with no attribution.

Even worse, in my opinion, is the phrase in blue that I have enlarged: “filled the void...”

Not only did Peterson plagiarize this quote from the Business Insider article, he also left off the quotation marks and attribution from that article. The phrase comes from the comments of professor Joonas Rokka. Kate Taylor, in the Business Insider article, properly quoted and attributed the statement.

Peterson did neither, in effect plagiarizing within his plagiarism.



From the Business Insider article:
KFC has become a Christmas tradition in Japan.

This is largely thanks to Takeshi Okawara, who managed the first KFC restaurant in Japan. These days, Japanese people could end up waiting in long lines if they don't pre-order their Christmas meals from KFC.

Here's a look back at how KFC became a Christmas tradition in Japan.

...Since only about 1% to 2% of the Japanese population is Christian, the country didn't have many established Christmas traditions.

...KFC helped build secular and commercial traditions with the simple message: "At Christmas, you eat chicken."

...At many Japanese Christmas parties, KFC is just one part of the Christmas feast.

Across the country, KFC locations dress Colonel Sanders up in Santa Claus gear for the holiday season.
And from Peterson’s column, his plagiarism of the BI article. Exactly worded plagiarism is in blue :
In Japan, where estimates put the number of Christians somewhere between 1%-2% of the population or perhaps even lower, a quite secularized version of Christmas focused on Santa Claus and gift-giving is widely observed.

Also prominent among Japanese Christmas traditions is eating fried chicken from KFC, where the statues of Colonel Sanders that stand in front of KFC restaurants are dressed as Santa Claus during the holiday season. Japanese people who don’t pre-order their KFC Christmas dinners can end up waiting in long lines for them, and could miss out altogether.

“Why KFC?” you might ask.
Form the BI article:
KFC's Christmas promotion was the brainchild of Takeshi Okawara, who managed the first KFC restaurant in Japan. He would go on to become CEO of Kentucky Fried Chicken Japan from 1984 to 2002.

Just a few months after the first KFC opened in Japan in 1970, Okawara had the idea to sell a Christmas "party barrel," inspired by the elaborate American turkey dinner, but with fried chicken instead of turkey.

The promotion went national in Japan in 1974 under the name Kurisumasu ni wa Kentakkii: Kentucky for Christmas.

The party barrel campaign "filled a void," Joonas Rokka, associate professor of marketing at the Emlyon Business School in France, told the BBC. "There was no tradition of Christmas in Japan, and so KFC came in and said, this is what you should do on Christmas."

... Premium barrels include options such as ribs or roast chicken with stuffing.

You can even pair your party barrel with Christmas wine that's sold at the fast-food chain.
DCP’s plagiarism, again exactly worded plagiarism in blue:
In 1970, just a few months after Takeshi Okawara opened the first KFC restaurant in Japan —he would go on to become the CEO of Kentucky Fried Chicken Japan from 1984-2002he conceived the idea of a Christmas “party barrel” containing not only chicken but, in some premium cases, ribs and stuffing and cake and even wine.

In 1974, the promotional campaign went national with the slogan “Kurisumasu ni wa Kentakkii” (“Kentucky for Christmas”).

Since, in the 1970s, there were few if any traditional Japanese Christmas observances, KFC filled a void.

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DanielPeterson Mod Kiwi57 • 10 hours ago

She claimed, perhaps accurately, that the identification was inaccurate. Since it came from "Smokey," that may well be true -- although his identifications were accurate in the cases where I knew them already.
:rolleyes: Again with the stupid, Daniel? Of course his other identifications were accurate. The whole posting world knows those just from reading these boards and paying attention. :rolleyes: You ought to try it instead of gobbling up every crumb someone throws at you without checking the source itself. He's just lucky he didn't step in it entirely and publish Kiwi57's identity as if it were breaking news.

You and yours failed to consider the source in the Chino Blanco incident. You failed to consider it now. Had you or yours over there, read through Smokey's posting history here you'd see that you're being played by a crackpot with cursory knowledge that most any lurker could collect.

Here's an idea. When Pahoran comes over on his next trip to check his private messages here at the Sty (like he did within the last 3 months-ish or so) let him check out Smokey's posting history. You know he acts like he's your wingman without actually being your wingman because if he truly were, he'd have already done that for you so what good is he anyway?

Do you never tire of making a fool of yourself in full public view? Do you not tire of those around you giving the appearance of loyalty where none exists? You guys are some of the laziest non-thinkers I've ever seen. How could someone like you presumably climb the ranks of academia and emerge with no street smarts at all?

It would've taken Pahoran all of 10 minutes to research Smokey as a source. 10 lousy minutes and the man didn't lift so much as a finger to do it because he's too invested in trading barbs like it's his job. But no. You took it from a stranger without considering or researching your source, you gobbled it up and once more, made yourself look desperate and insecure.

How much personal embarrassment could have been avoided if you only had a little help from your friends?

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Lemmie wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:48 pm
If someone is still looking for plagiarized Deseret News posts from Peterson, here is one which I posted in this thread Dec, 20, 2019. Peterson’s exact, word for word plagiarisms are in blue.
I saw that one. Pretty bad.

The articles I posted above are 3 instances of taking whole columns written for Deseret News and then re-publishing the same in The Interpreter, presented as if original content, with no citations. Also known as self-plagiarism, which is also a no-no, even at BYU.

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Yet another recycled or self-plagiarized Deseret News article by Daniel C. Peterson (with no credit given to his co-author Bill Hamblin):

https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/3/26 ... -topiltzin

"As the perfect priest-king, Topiltzin Quetzalcoatl provided the prototype for subsequent Mesoamerican leaders, legitimizing the social, religious and political order of kings and priests claiming to rule after him and by his authority. Indeed, Aztec high priests themselves were called “Quetzalcoatl.”"

https://latterdaysaintmag.com/article-1-4240/

"As the perfect priest-king, Topiltzin Quetzalcoatl provided the prototype for subsequent Mesoamerican leaders, legitimizing the social, religious, and political order of kings and priests claiming to rule after him and by his authority. Indeed, Aztec high priests were called Quetzalcoatl."

Oddly enough Mr. Peterson decides to mix up some words here and there in the plagiarized article to, I dunno, make the one article different from the other for some reason? Who knows what his motivations are outside of being a lazy bones.

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Great find Doc! Does anyone here know how newspapers treat authors/columnists who simply recycle articles from other articles they've written? I think usually the authors/columnists at least tell the readers that the "new" offering is from an article previously published, right?

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The New York Times fires them, and begs for forgiveness from their readers. They don’t mess around.

edit: Also, Dr. Moore, it’s not really “a find.” It’s like going to the beach and finding sand. One ought not be congratulated for something so routine and easily done with a simple Google search.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:42 pm
The New York Times fires them, and begs for forgiveness from their readers. They don’t mess around.

edit: Also, Dr. Moore, it’s not really “a find.” It’s like going to the beach and finding sand. One ought not be congratulated for something so routine and easily done with a simple Google search.

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Excellent analogy Doc

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How much personal embarrassment could have been avoided if you only had a little help from your friends?
Snipped the rest of the truly bare butt spanking and kicking Jersey Girl delivered to el hombre sir, mister man Dan Peterson.
Stupendous post Jersey Girl....I snipped for brevity.

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DanielPeterson Mod Moksha

If I quote directly and significantly from Wikipedia, I'll cite it as a source.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 4894811537
Peterson’s statement yesterday reminded me of one of Peterson’s posts that I compared to Wikipedia several months ago. I finished writing up my conclusions today, and offer the following in refutation of Peterson’s assertion above. He begins by laying out a project. Note the bolded part.
Fine-Tuning and Dimensionless Physical Constants
NOVEMBER 15, 2019 BY DAN PETERSON

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... tants.html

DCP:

For a long-term project that I have in mind, I’m trying to formulate discussions of certain scientific concepts. I want eventually to publish what I’m working on, but a major initial goal is simply to be certain that I myself understand what I’m talking about. I make no claim to either originality or finality at this point, and I would be happy if anybody with substance expertise decides to chime in — charitably and gently, I hope! — with suggestions or corrections:
[bolding added]

So far, so good. If it is not original, there should be citations, but there are none to be found. In the following sections, I post the wiki reference first, then Peterson’s version. Note that even Wikipedia cites others’ work with footnotes, but none of that information, nor a Wikipedia citation, makes it into Peterson’s work, in spite of his assertion above:

As usual, Peterson’s exact plagiarized sections are in blue:

wikipedia, fine-tuned universe, version online nov 8, 2019 [first paragraph]
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =925204360

The fine-tuned universe is the proposition that the conditions that allow life in the Universe can occur only when certain universal dimensionless physical constants lie within a very narrow range of values, so that if any of several fundamental constants were only slightly different, the Universe would be unlikely to be conducive to the establishment and development of matter, astronomical structures, elemental diversity, or life as it is understood.[1][2][3][4]
DCP:

The proposition that the universe is fine-tuned for life asserts that the conditions that allow life to exist can occur only when certain universal dimensionless physical constants lie within a very narrow range of values. In other words, if any one of several fundamental constants were only slightly different, the universe would likely be inhospitable to the establishment and development of matter, of astronomical structures, of diversity in chemical elements, and (therefore) of biological life in any sense that we currently know or understand or can really envision.


wiki, physical constant [first paragraph]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_constant

A physical constant, sometimes fundamental physical constant or universal constant, is a physical quantity that is generally believed to be both universal in nature and have constant value in time. It is contrasted with a mathematical constant, which has a fixed numerical value, but does not directly involve any physical measurement.
DCP:

What is a physical constant? It is a physical quantity — sometimes called a universal constant or a fundamental physical constantthat is generally believed to both universal in its nature and to have a constant value over time. (A mathematical constant, by contrast,also has a fixed numerical value but doesn’t directly involve any actual physical measurement.)


Wiki, speed of light [1st paragraph]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light

The speed of light in vacuum, commonly denoted c, is a universal physical constant important in many areas of physics. Its exact value is 299792458 metres per second (approximately 300000 km/s (186000 mi/s)[Note 3]).
DCP:

Current science is aware of a number of physical constants. Of these, probably the most famous is c, the speed of light in a vacuum. (It appears, for example, in the famous Einsteinean equation E = mc2.) Its exact value is 299792458 meters per second (or approximately 300000 km/s (186000 mi/s).


wiki, speed of light, [4th paragraph, footnote 6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light

In 1905, Albert Einstein postulated that the speed of light c with respect to any inertial frame is a constant and is independent of the motion of the light source.[6]
DCP:

In 1905, Einstein’s special theory of relativity postulated that the speed of light c with respect to any inertial frame is a constant and that it is independent of the motion of the light source.


wiki, Physical constant [second paragraph]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_constant

There are many physical constants in science, some of the most widely recognized being the speed of light in vacuum c, the gravitational constant G, the Planck constant h, the electric constant ε0, and the elementary charge e.
DCP:

Others physical constants include the gravitational constant G, the Planck constant h, the electric constant ε0, and the elementary charge e.


wikipedia, dimensionless physical constant, version online Nov 13, 2019 [1st paragraph]
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =925959888

In physics, a dimensionless physical constant, sometimes called a fundamental physical constant, is a physical constant that is dimensionless, i.e. a pure number having no units attached and having a numerical value that is independent of whatever system of units may be used. Perhaps the best-known example is the fine-structure constant, α, which has an approximate value of ​1⁄137.036.
DCP:

What does it mean to speak of dimensionless physical constants? Dimensionlessness (to coin a word, perhaps) means that the physical constant is a pure number having no units attached and having a numerical value that is independent of whatever system of unitsor measurement may be used. Perhaps the best-known example of a dimensionless physical constant is the fine-structure constant, α, which has an approximate value of ​1⁄137.036.
How much more directly and significantly can one quote from Wikipedia?

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Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:19 pm
Jersey Girl
How much personal embarrassment could have been avoided if you only had a little help from your friends?
Snipped the rest of the truly bare butt spanking and kicking Jersey Girl delivered to el hombre sir, mister man Dan Peterson.
Stupendous post Jersey Girl....I snipped for brevity.
I didn't comment for praise. I commented so he could read it. The man has zero self awareness. He trusts the untrustworthy. He's deluded if he thinks his loyal associates are loyal. For freak sakes. Pahoran didn't spend even 10 minutes of his time to log in here and check out Smokes. What a rookie mistake!

Daniel knows I tell the truth in my posts. Pahoran, same. I have no reason to lie about anything. I have no skin in the game.

(I think that rhymed, didn't it?)

You would think they would've learned from the Chino Blanco debacle. But no. They learned nothing.

They're so threatened by Lemmie that they can't see straight. So they took the bait from a known crackpot. You know how you stop this documentation thread? You stop effing plagiarizing.

Good hell. Cause and effect, Daniel. Even a toddler can do it. No kidding.

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Watch out dear one......next thing ya know ole Midgley will be asking your bishop for your address and email, and he's gonna want ta meet your husband....... oh nothing sinister, just for a few beers and giggles, of course.

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Philo Sofee wrote:
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Watch out dear one......next thing ya know ole Midgley will be asking your bishop for your address and email, and he's gonna want ta meet your husband....... oh nothing sinister, just for a few beers and giggles, of course.
Yeah what's his deal? Did he do anything to vet Smokes?

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:51 pm
Philo Sofee wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:44 pm
Watch out dear one......next thing ya know ole Midgley will be asking your bishop for your address and email, and he's gonna want ta meet your husband....... oh nothing sinister, just for a few beers and giggles, of course.
Yeah what's his deal? Did he do anything to vet Smokes?
Oh heavens no, they are probably switching wives to prepare them for the Second Coming of Polygamy. Their best of bed buddies, why vet a friend?

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Philo Sofee wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:

Yeah what's his deal? Did he do anything to vet Smokes?
Oh heavens no, they are probably switching wives to prepare them for the Second Coming of Polygamy. Their best of bed buddies, why vet a friend?
Oh okay. He's welcome to contact my Bish.

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Lemmie, do we know whether Deseret News has a policy on plagiarizing from gentile publications?

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