DCP's ongoing problem with plagiarism

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Dr LOD wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 12:06 am
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Fri May 08, 2020 8:50 pm
The people who own the intellectual property that Peterson posts on his blog would disagree.

As an example, from an earlier post which documented plagiarism of a Sci Am article in a blog entry by Peterson, note that Scientific American considers “posting on a website/blog” to be a category requiring not only payment for use+of copyrighted material, but also a limitation to use on a blog, after payment, of no more than 20%:
You are correct. I think in his position as a tenured professor the worst example of his plagiarism is, what has been published in academic journals. Although I cringe at the thought of giving the Interpreter that level of respect with that statement.
:rolleyes: Excellent point.
Because behavior like has not put in check I wonder about the intellectual integrity of those who are in supervisory positions of the Professor.
Early on in this thread, Kishkumen brought to my attention a case in which a newly inaugurated BYU President plagiarized a speech, and BYU did nothing. This was late 90s, If I recall correctly. In his opinion, if he doesn’t mind me paraphrasing, if no one at BYU objected to that, why would anyone there care if Peterson does it also?

I found that to be an utterly disturbing and depressing set of circumstances, and like you, caused me to wonder about “the intellectual integrity” of those in charge. In my opinion;, it is unconscionable. Peterson clearly violates BYU’s honor code, whether it is in a journal, on a blog, or at Deseret News. (This thread documents plagiarized work at all three locations.) It is partly the reason I continue this thread. Someone needs to document the lack of intellectual honesty going on.
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Dr Moore wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 10:03 pm
Hot off the presses, Friday May 8, 2020, is yet another instance of that lazy shortcut around forming ideas using one's own words, opting instead to copy and paste the words of others, without attribution. Also known as plagiarism.

Love how the Wikipedia sources are also copied in, giving the appearance of proper attribution of the ideas, but failing to properly quote or attribute the borrowed words and phrases to the obvious source, Wikipedia.

Funny how the root sources -- where direct quotes from the Talmud ARE provided -- are all taken precisely from the Wikipedia source list.

Original: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah_study
Copied by Peterson: https://journal.interpreterfoundation.o ... salvation/

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Golly, I wonder if BYU administrators are giving out free passes to students caught plagiarizing Wikipedia too? If not, all a student need do is point the honor code office to this thread and ask for consistency in applying the standard.
It shouldn’t be presumed that Dr. Peterson is unfamiliar with the Babylonian Talmud. He owns a copy and can easily recall and recite dozens of passages from it. Moreover, he’s a contributor to it.
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Someone has been taking Peterson’s plagiarism excuses a little too seriously:

Also, for what it's worth, plagiarized is an inaccurate term since the JST was never finished and thus never published with the explanatory preface that accompanied every other one of Joseph Smith's scriptural productions. To say he plagiarized Clarke would be like taking uncredited prewriting notes for a master's thesis and calling them examples of plagiarism.

https://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/73 ... 1209985175
Let’s think about this for a moment. This person thinks that there is a point in one’s master’s thesis writing where one has compiled multiple cases of other people’s words into a document, leaving off any quotation marks, credit, footnotes, sources, names, or even any indication that the words came from somewhere else.

What on earth would you do with a draft like that? The next step would be that one has to go back and reinsert all of the quotation marks, credit, footnotes, sources, names, to document that the words came from from somewhere else. No one does that. NO ONE. This is a bizarre excuse for Smith’s plagiarism, obviously driven by the fact that this person HAS to come up with an explanation that does not involve plagiarism. There is no logic whatsoever in this excuse.
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A link to an interpretor article was shared on Patheos Sic et Non yesterday. I haven't read the whole article, but here's a little snippet from the article:
"...in Jewish tradition, repentance is called teshuvah, a Hebrew word that can also be translated as “returning.” One of the Hebrew words for sin is chet, which in Hebrew means “to go astray.” Thus, the fundamental idea of repentance in Jewish thinking is a return to the path of righteousness."
https://journal.interpreterfoundation.org/de-profundis/

Compare to the following from myjewishlearning.com:
"In the Jewish tradition, repentance is called teshuvah, a Hebrew word translated as “returning.” One of the Hebrew words for sin is chet, which in Hebrew means “to go astray.” Thus the idea of repentance in Jewish thought is a return to the path of righteousness."
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/repentance/
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cacheman wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:21 am
A link to an interpretor article was shared on Patheos Sic et Non yesterday. I haven't read the whole article, but here's a little snippet from the article:
"...in Jewish tradition, repentance is called teshuvah, a Hebrew word that can also be translated as “returning.” One of the Hebrew words for sin is chet, which in Hebrew means “to go astray.” Thus, the fundamental idea of repentance in Jewish thinking is a return to the path of righteousness."
https://journal.interpreterfoundation.org/de-profundis/

Compare to the following from myjewishlearning.com:
"In the Jewish tradition, repentance is called teshuvah, a Hebrew word translated as “returning.” One of the Hebrew words for sin is chet, which in Hebrew means “to go astray.” Thus the idea of repentance in Jewish thought is a return to the path of righteousness."
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/repentance/
Ha. He’s back to his old ways. The bit that follows your example above -
… repentance is metanoia, which, at its base, suggests a transformative change of mind (or, we might say, of heart). Another way of expressing it would be as a “conversion” or a “reformation,” even a repudiation of old ways of thinking.
was lifted out of wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metanoia_%28theology%29

Daniel C. Pasticheterson is up to his cheatin’ ways again. :(

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cacheman wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:21 am
A link to an interpretor article was shared on Patheos Sic et Non yesterday. I haven't read the whole article, but here's a little snippet from the article:
"...in Jewish tradition, repentance is called teshuvah, a Hebrew word that can also be translated as “returning.” One of the Hebrew words for sin is chet, which in Hebrew means “to go astray.” Thus, the fundamental idea of repentance in Jewish thinking is a return to the path of righteousness."
https://journal.interpreterfoundation.org/de-profundis/

Compare to the following from myjewishlearning.com:
"In the Jewish tradition, repentance is called teshuvah, a Hebrew word translated as “returning.” One of the Hebrew words for sin is chet, which in Hebrew means “to go astray.” Thus the idea of repentance in Jewish thought is a return to the path of righteousness."
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/repentance/
The students I most recently taught English to were are the grade 10-12 level.

That's a terrible example of paraphrasing that I would not let them off with. If they turned in something like that I would send them back to The Purdue Online Writing Lab (OWL) to learn again about quoting, paraphrasing, and summarizing, and how to properly cite sources.
https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/research_and ... index.html
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It's just so easy to simply note the source, I can't figure out why it is so repugnant to him...
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Philo Sofee wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:32 pm
It's just so easy to simply note the source, I can't figure out why it is so repugnant to him...
Well. You noted a while ago that Pasticheterson has to give the impression that he knows everything and that he can recall the most minute of details from his exceptional brain. -_-

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Dupli Cut Pasterson has always been absent of any original thoughts.
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