Nehi, you and the others too young to have gone through when these things were part of The Temple Ceremony as given to Joseph Smith from THE LORD don't know what you are writing about.
I can say with perfect assurance that I know more about it then you. :)
Those of us who went through then and were workers then know what was part of the ceremony. We know it was supposedly there from The Lord and not to be tampered with.
Why is it that all ex-Mormons were so unbelievably dogmatic about everything? There may be a pattern there.
Then later we find out what we went through was changed a number of times from Joe the coxmans day.
Who is this Joe and what does he have to do with this?
What in hell is going on? Truth changed? The ceremonies that were the same from Adam to Solomon's Temple to every dispensation to today--- except they now aren't the same?
You believed that they hadn't changed since the days of Adam? At all?
Okay, thanks for that. I needed a good laugh. No wonder you're gone now. Brigham Young talked about them changing. They certainly weren't given the same way in the past. Do you really think when Adam received his equivalent endowment they talked about Moses? That everything was exactly the same? Wow, you were so naïve when you were a member it's almost cute.
And some think they were removed because they were not understood?
I don't. Though many never understand the Temple.
I have a whole barnyard full of Shinola available if you would like to come over and shine your shoes boys.
Pay Lay Ale was not a beer, but we can't expect you boys to understand that, cane we?
No, I know about that too. I made it a hobby to study the changes and asked those who went through before.