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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:20 pm 
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If my wife wore a dress that barely covered her breasts, I think I would expect such comments. Maybe that's why the woman in question is now divorced. Her husband didn't like the fact that she was wearing porn-star attire in public.


Have you seen the dress? What you describe above is Schryver's creepy description of the dress, not the reality. Not that you didn't already know that.

You are really a piece of work.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:21 pm 
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Bob Loblaw wrote:
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Yes, it's obvious you're not alone. That doesn't make your opinion correct, however. This place is an example of group-think gone crazy.


If it's OK in your circles to make unwanted jokes about women's breasts and then continue after you are asked to stop then you run in some very strange circles.

Where did the woman ask Schryver to "cease and desist" about his comments towards her? I missed that.
Anyway, I really have to go now. I might check back in next Friday, if I get the chance.


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My friend was right. He said if I started posting here I'd lose all respect for apologists but he probably didn't think it would happen so fast.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:48 pm 
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Here are a few things Kimberly has said:

May 15 2009:

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Your comments generally don't rile me, Will, but I do hope you're not suggesting that I was one of the "easy" chicks you saw at Exmo Conference, or that I'm one of the "hos" mentioned in your song parody, because nothing could be further from the truth.

There's not one female poster on this board who is a "ho."

Also, it's no big deal, but for the record, my dress wasn't what you remember, Will. Admittedly, I bristled a bit when you said I looked like I belonged at an Adult Film Industry convention. I didn't. The dress I wore was an Anne Klein wrap dress with three-quarter length sleeves and a skirt length to just below the knee. It did have a plunging neckline, but it wasn't as low-cut as dresses worn by other women that evening. Those women were just shaped differently than me. :)

Anyway, I'm not easy and I'm no ho.


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KA:
There's not one female poster on this board who is a "ho."

I think you may be right. As far as I can tell, they’re all males.

Also, it's no big deal, but for the record, my dress wasn't what you remember, Will.

Could be I missed the forest for the trees.

… I'm not easy and I'm no ho.

You know what they say: “Easy is as easy does.”

In any case, if you’d like to be offended, don’t let me get in your way.


Feb 17 2010:

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I have to say this ongoing mentioning of a black dress I wore years ago to an Ex-Mormon conference is growing tiresome. It's being made out to be something it's not. The completely unwarranted brouhaha should have died down long ago. I thought by simply letting it go that the comments would stop, but that hasn't proven a successful strategy thus far.

So, I just now--and I do mean just now--put on the dress and snapped some pics of myself so that everyone can see for themselves just how not-a-big-deal the dress was and is. My daughter's camera is crappy. I'm literally wearing the dress over my exercise pants. My white socks and tennis shoes are still on, and they look very silly with a black dress, so there are no full-length shots. The mirror is dirty in my daughter's room. (I must remember to make her clean it soon!)

So, without further ado, the black dress that is supposedly fit for a porn conference:

*images snipped*

There. I'm not embarrassed of it. I don't think it's immodest. If someone has a problem with my dress, I'd say that someone is big-time repressed! Seriously, it's nothing one wouldn't see at any given restaurant on any given Friday night. Good grief!


To which Mr. Schryver responded:

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The breast reduction surgery appears to have been successful.

lol

1 Nephi 14:11


From Kimberly:

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Also, just so folks know, I knew before I hit "submit" on this thread that Will would comment. I don't mind. It's okay. I wanted to show that the dress I wore to Ex-Mo conference isn't a little spaghetti strap number (not that I think there's anything wrong with those), it isn't fit for an AVN Conference--it's not any big deal at all. It's just a black cocktail dress.

I think anyone having a problem with the dress has problems of his or her own. ...

While it is true that Will's extremism may be an example of Mormonism gone awry, there are several Mormons who have replied with kindness to this thread and who have rebuked Will openly. They are examples of what is good and right in people, regardless of their religion.

Thanks, all.

Kimberly


Feb 18 2010:

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I wanted to put to rest the unwarranted conjecture about a dress I wore three years ago. From various online descriptions of it, one would think I spent that October evening of 2006 wearing less than a Kleenex! In reality, I wore a black, conservative cocktail dress to dinner and then enjoyed Brent Metcalfe's presentation. I hope it's obvious now, at least to most folks, that all the hullabaloo over "The Dress" was much ado about nothing.


Feb 19 2010:

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Krose, your observations are spot-on.

From seeing me one time in the same dress as pictured in the OP, Will has somehow determined that I'm a whore. He has repeatedly, over the span of at least two years, made comments like the following:

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I'm easy. (Just like Kimberly Ann! :lol:)


From seeing me once. Good grief.

I certainly haven't been put through the wringer like John or personally affected by Will's antics like Trevor; they've bigger gripes than me. If there is a pound of flesh to be had, they get their share first. I'll pass on any leftovers.


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[Schryver] could [publish his work] sooner, rather than later, if he'd spend less time fostering his creepy obsession with my physique.

From a post made about two or so weeks ago:

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You might be interested in the fact that a couple people were once given the task of investigating the basis for the oft-repeated claim of my wanton vulgarity. What was the result of this rather exhaustive investigation? It was that, although a few minor blushes were induced (amidst the belly laughs), there was deemed to be virtually no substantive basis for the allegations; quotes were found to have been routinely taken out of context, thus entirely altering their true meaning, and a large proportion of the "vulgarities" attributed to me were entirely fabricated out of whole cloth (like, for example, the frequently repeated allegation that I called the golden-haired Kimberly Ann a "whore.")

(Kimberly does remain somewhat famous [among a small circle of otherwise respected academics] on account of my descriptions of her having once squeezed her then more voluptuous spirit tabernacle into a slinky black three-sizes-too-small dress at the 2006 Exmormon Foundation conference in Salt Lake City, which I attended. One wouldn't have believed it possible to carry melons in a pair of thimbles suspended from a thread, but miracles happen almost every day in this jaded world of cynical disbelievers.)


FAIR has made a deal with the devil and they do not care.


Are these the kinds of comments anyone here would say or think were right and proper? Does Kimberly sound like she enjoys being called a whore, ho, and dressed for a porn convention? What is wrong with these apologists?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:02 pm 
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Anyway, I really have to go now. I might check back in next Friday, if I get the chance.

A whole week off, but what of your information gathering?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:10 pm 
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Ludd wrote:
If my wife wore a dress that barely covered her breasts, I think I would expect such comments. Maybe that's why the woman in question is now divorced (per what was said on another thread about her). Her husband probably didn't like the fact that she was wearing porn-star attire in public.


You're a real class act, Will. Always have been.

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You're a real class act, Will. Always have been.


Sickening.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:44 pm 
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Ludd wrote:
If my wife wore a dress that barely covered her breasts, I think I would expect such comments. Maybe that's why the woman in question is now divorced (per what was said on another thread about her). Her husband probably didn't like the fact that she was wearing porn-star attire in public.


Ludd, would you please post a link to the aforementioned thread?

Thank you in advance.

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KimberlyAnn wrote:
Ludd wrote:
If my wife wore a dress that barely covered her breasts, I think I would expect such comments. Maybe that's why the woman in question is now divorced (per what was said on another thread about her). Her husband probably didn't like the fact that she was wearing porn-star attire in public.


Ludd, would you please post a link to the aforementioned thread?

Thank you in advance.

KA


KA,

I'm sorry that once again you've become a target of Will's malicious behavior.

I believe "Ludd" was referring to this post by liz:

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Ludd, let's take the examples you listed from Ms. Jack's thread, and allow Brother Schryver's Priesthood leaders to review them. Let's sit down with Brother Schryver's bishop and explain that he, willingly identifying himself as a representative and apologist for the LDS Church was:

1. Brother Schryver, a Melchizedek Priesthood holder who has been married in the temple, was making ogling comments on a public website about a young divorced woman's breasts.

2. Brother Schryver was rabidly insulting a variety of women, some members of the Church, based on his perception of their looks.


And then, we wil allow Brother Schryver's Bishop and/or Stake Preident to view Ms. Jack's thread in full.

I would LOVE to be a fly on that wall.



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Ludd, let's take the examples you listed from Ms. Jack's thread, and allow Brother Schryver's Priesthood leaders to review them. Let's sit down with Brother Schryver's bishop and explain that he, willingly identifying himself as a representative and apologist for the LDS Church was:

1. Brother Schryver, a Melchizedek Priesthood holder who has been married in the temple, was making ogling comments on a public website about a young divorced woman's breasts.

2. Brother Schryver was rabidly insulting a variety of women, some members of the Church, based on his perception of their looks.


And then, we wil allow Brother Schryver's Bishop and/or Stake Preident to view Ms. Jack's thread in full.

I would LOVE to be a fly on that wall.



According to Will he not concerned about his Stake President. From the OP:

Willy talking about his Stake President:
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No need now. I've pointed him to this message board and given him specific links to the threads in question. I think that's him I hear laughing right now from half way across town.

You see, my dear antagonist, the flaw in your plan to "expose" me is that I am absolutely no different on this message board than I am in real life. That's a game for others to play. My stake president would not be shocked (or chagrined) at me calling you apostates filthy whores of Babylon. Indeed, he might just add a few adjectives to the mix.

It's no wonder you people couldn't hack it as Mormons. You don't have a freaking clue -- about the nature of God or His people. That's why it shocks you to have someone declare that Porter Rockwell is in heaven, and apostates go to hell.

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According to Will he not concerned about his Stake President. From the OP:

Willy talking about his Stake President:
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No need now. I've pointed him to this message board and given him specific links to the threads in question. I think that's him I hear laughing right now from half way across town.

You see, my dear antagonist, the flaw in your plan to "expose" me is that I am absolutely no different on this message board than I am in real life. That's a game for others to play. My stake president would not be shocked (or chagrined) at me calling you apostates filthy whores of Babylon. Indeed, he might just add a few adjectives to the mix.

It's no wonder you people couldn't hack it as Mormons. You don't have a freaking clue -- about the nature of God or His people. That's why it shocks you to have someone declare that Porter Rockwell is in heaven, and apostates go to hell.


Yeah, Will also claimed his wife read and approved of each and every one of his posts here. Including, I suppose, the ones where he waxed eloquent about how an alpha male such as himself needed fertile fields to plow in the next life.

In other words, there's one sure test to tell when Will is lying. His lips are moving. (or his fingers typing on the keyboard)

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You might be interested in the fact that a couple people were once given the task of investigating the basis for the oft-repeated claim of my wanton vulgarity.


Did we ever get the details from Will as to why a couple of people were given such a task, or who gave it them?

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Did we ever get the details from Will as to why a couple of people were given such a task, or by whom?


Maybe one of them was Ludd but he procrastinated until now. :biggrin:

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William Schryver wrote:

You didn't post "old posts" of mine. You posted a classic anti-mormon propaganda hit-piece that originated with Pig-in-a-Pokatator--a collection of out-of-context quotes liberally sprinkled with outright fabrications. No one except apostates and those well on their way have ever believed for a minute that I am the "foul mouthed, vulgar" caricature championed by you and the other whore's whelps here in the Perpetual Circle Jerk Suite™.

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In any case, your continuing to call me a bald-faced liar is well noted (along with the other string of adjectives you have employed in the past and in your post above). Should you ever run into me in person, I guess you’d better hope I’m a “forgive and forget Christian,” huh? Otherwise you might find yourself having a knuckle sandwich for lunch.

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Edit: KA was the one who blogged about her breast reduction surgery. It was hilarious. I laughed. I cried. I blew snot bubbles. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11836&p=294717#p294717


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William Schryver wrote:

You didn't post "old posts" of mine. You posted a classic anti-mormon propaganda hit-piece that originated with Pig-in-a-Pokatator--a collection of out-of-context quotes liberally sprinkled with outright fabrications. No one except apostates and those well on their way have ever believed for a minute that I am the "foul mouthed, vulgar" caricature championed by you and the other whore's whelps here in the Perpetual Circle Jerk Suite™.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11811&p=294153&hilit=circle+jerk#p294153


Huh. He thinks that being critical of his behavior is the same as anti-Mormonism.

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I am not trying to be insulting. Do you REALLY think you are being witty?

I, on the other hand, am trying to be insulting. Being witty is simply an unavoidable byproduct of my saying anything at all. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11811&p=294645#p294645


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Speaking to Harmony:

William Schryver wrote:

Truth be told, I regard you as too shallow and insignificant to bother with.

You're just the homely waitress wandering from table to table here in the singlewide, hoping that someone will get drunk enough to ask you out. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11811&p=294086#p294086


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Being witty is simply an unavoidable byproduct of my saying anything at all. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11811&p=294645#p294645


I'd say I blew snot bubbles but I'm not that witty. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Most stupid people are sad but the stupid people who don't realize they're being stupid are hilarious. This guy is one of the stupidest Mormons I've come across.

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