40 yrs plus, Droopy. Every single one of them as an active temple recommend holding multiple calling fulfilling full tithe paying member. Can you say the same? I'll be in the temple before you are, I suspect.
53 years, and, unlike you, I accept the gospel and try to live its principles. You are, according to many years of anonymous posting history on the Internet, utterly apostate from the gospel and the Church, and your Temple recommend is a cacophonous lie, as is your sanctimonious, feigned righteousness.
One day, Harmony, it will all be exposed, either in this life or the next. God will not be mocked.
Actually, I am asked to speak often, and when bearing my testimony, witness many who feel the spirit of my words.
Yes, I'm sure...
Don't go where you know nothing, Droopy. I'm fully active and have been for 40 years. And when I am not there, they feel my absence. They mourn for the pain I live with, and wish I was able to participate more fully.Tell them what your really think
, what you really feel, and what your really believe about the doctrines, teachings, and other elements of the Church they hold to be sacred. Tell them
, Harmony. Don't tell me any stories about your righteousness and holiness, I don't do that here and never have. Tell them - fully disclose who and what you really are.
Then come back and report the effects of that honest disclosure.
All members of my ward know me, Droopy. All of them, from my bishop to my home teachers (one of whom is my bishop's 15 yr old son.). They know my feelings, my heart, the incredible strength of my testimony of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Could you show me then, or provide some links to the specific posts you showed them that you have made here and in other forums (such as ZLMB) over the years, or what you have disclosed to them that would be equivalent, that would give them a substantial working knowledge of your views on the following:
1. The historicity of the Book of Mormon.
2. The ancient provenance and divinity of the Book of Abraham
3. Joseph Smith's morality and integrity throughout his ministry.
4. Eternal marriage
5. The authenticity and legitimacy of the callings and mantel of the FP and the Twelve.
6. The historicity of the First Vision, the angel, Moroni, the gold plates, the appearance of Peter, James, and John to restore the priesthood, and other events claimed to be empirical, historical phenomena surrounding the origins of the Church.
7. The serious and debasing sin of homosexual behavior and the abomination of homosexuality as a culture and manner of life
8. The divinely inspired teachings of the Church regarding gender roles and the inherent mortal emphasis or de-emphasis in mortality relative to family, child rearing, and the optimum division of responsibility and concentration between husbands and wives.
9. The Church's teachings on dress, modesty, and personal adornment (self culture).
10. Your views on the doctrines of second and third wave feminism.
This is just a short list, you can fill in any lacuna yourself.
Let me know what the general responses are.
Of course they'd let me finish. They know what sincere love for them looks like; they know what wisdom looks like. They know I'm the one they call on when they have a problem with a wayward teenager, when they are heartbroken over a husband who has fallen off the wagon, when they need an ear for joy or grief. That is the role I fill in my ward, Droopy. Deal with it. Just because my testimony is a bit unconventional doesn't mean I am not of use and help to my ward family.
Well, Harmony is a fount of righteousness, a pillar of virtue, a paragon of truth, a sage, a vessel of purity, and the staff of life. A whirlwind goes behind her, and a pillar of fire before. I can't imaging anyone I know in the apologetic community going on like this for even one syllable, as the impression it gives is, in point of fact, of one protesting far, far to much.
I was invited to be part of Dehlin's podcast once. I declined due to not wanting to let the Droopy's of world know who and where I am. Dan? He knows both, as do several others here. He respects my wishes and remains silent.
Yes, because you don't want your friends, fellow ward members, your Bishop, or SP to find out what
you really are and what you really think of the Church, the gospel, and of their priesthood authority. You've told me and others, many times, what you think of that
. No, you wouldn't want that to waft across the rooftops.
I've been an active member for far longer than the Droopy's of the world, and totally uninterrupted. Now try to stay on topic (hint: harmony is not the topic of this thread.)
I've got at least 13 years on you, and even though I haven't, due to several major personal challenges through life, always been active during that time (as if outward activity is, in and of itself, a measure of one's true internal state of being), I've always been fully and utterly converted and accepting of the truths of the gospel - all of them
, as they have come from the mouths and pens of the Lord's servants, the prophets.
You, indeed, may have a few years of activity
over me, but I have the gospel,
and in that sense we are as far apart as the bottom of the ocean is from the surface of Mars.