Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
... Anyhow, I do not have great faith in anything an apostate says. ...
Irony at its best. Joseph Smith himself was an apostate from the Methodist church.
In Joseph Smith's time near every member was apostate. And became apostle, prophet, seer and revelator.
From http://www.lds.org/churchhistory/presid ... pic=events
(LDS Home - Church History - History of the Church - Presidents of the Church - John Taylor
- Significant Events) :
1808 November 1 Born in Milnthorpe, Westmorland, England, to James Taylor and Agnes Taylor.
1819 Age 11 Moved with family to Hale (near Milnthorpe), where he helped work on a small farm left to his father by an uncle.
1822 Age 14 Apprenticed as a cooper (barrel maker) in Liverpool, England. Within a year, his master's business failed and he returned home.
1824 Age 16 Left the Church of England and became a Methodist.
1825 Age 17 Became Methodist “exhorter,” or lay preacher. Received a strong impression that he would go to America to preach the gospel.
1832 Age 24 Left England for Canada and commenced preaching.
1833–1836 Age 25–28 Served as preacher in the Methodist Church in Toronto, Canada.
1836 May 9 Age 27 Baptized by Parley P. Pratt.
1836–1837 Age 28–29 Served as the Church's presiding officer in Canada.
1837 Age 29 Moved to Far West, Missouri.
1837 March Age 28 Met the Prophet Joseph Smith in Kirtland, Ohio.
1838 December 19 Age 30 Ordained an Apostle
at Far West, Missouri, by Brigham Young and Heber C. Kimball under the direction of Joseph Smith, who was in Liberty Jail.
Two year from apostatizing from Methodist Church to become an apostle...
One beau ideal
. There is a Hungarian saying about changing longjohn and conviction at once.
Today, most of the converts around the world are apostates from different christian churches.
1. Please evaluate the word "christian" in the broadest sense
2. Interestingly, one can find very little from muslims, jews and buddhists.