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 Post subject: Re: Is the King Follet discourse doctrine or not?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:03 pm 
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The problem is that church leadership won't say what is doctrine and what is not. They could make it easier on people by actually acting like prophets seers and revelators.


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OK space cowboy, given that deification has been consistently published in official LDS publications, answer me why Hinckley lied when asked if mormon believe that men will become gods?

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OK space cowboy, given that deification has been consistently published in official LDS publications, answer me why Hinckley lied when asked if mormon believe that men will become gods?


I'll list three options:
1. He knew it would be bad PR to state it.
2. He doesn't believe it.
3. Were he to confirm such an explicit belief it would make cosying up to Christian Faiths that much harder.

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 Post subject: Re: Is the King Follet discourse doctrine or not?
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Such as men will have their own planets. I'm not sad to see that false doctrine die.
What do you mean false doctrine?
I mean man is not God nor ever will be. Our role in the everlastings is not as God and we will never have that role. Sure, we'll assist God in whatever he asks of us, but the false doctrine here is that men will be Gods unto themselves, having trillions of children with their wives, and creating worlds for those spirit children to inhabit. This is a completely false and evil doctrine taught in the Church and is used by the enemies of the Church to belittle the gospel and the truth. It needs to be stamped out because of that.


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I agree with you that man is NEVER God. But I disagree that in exaltation we will NOT be continuing the seeds and having spirit body offspring for billions of years while the earth cools and forms and prepares all elements and resources. You wholly reject D&C 132?
I do not believe man will ever create his own world or worlds for his children. I clearly delineate between man and God in the eternities. Though we are made in his likeness and image we are not the same being as is God. His DNA, if he calls his that, and ours is never mingled.

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 Post subject: Re: Is the King Follet discourse doctrine or not?
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I agree with you that man is NEVER God. But I disagree that in exaltation we will NOT be continuing the seeds and having spirit body offspring for billions of years while the earth cools and forms and prepares all elements and resources. You wholly reject D&C 132?
I do not believe man will ever create his own world or worlds for his children. I clearly delineate between man and God in the eternities. Though we are made in his likeness and image we are not the same being as is God. His DNA, if he calls his that, and ours is never mingled.
Uh, no. I never said that. I believe Celestial beings form spirit children. They formed us in fact. That is why the teaching that God is literally our spirit father and Lucifer is Jesus's spirit brother are both false. Jesus Christ is the only begotten of the Father. Also, the teaching about a Heavenly Mother is false since those that formed our spirit beings were not God, only Celestial beings working under the direction of God. This is the meaning of exaltation after all. To become part of this eternal cycle of renewal as Celestial beings.


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I agree with you that man is NEVER God. But I disagree that in exaltation we will NOT be continuing the seeds and having spirit body offspring for billions of years while the earth cools and forms and prepares all elements and resources. You wholly reject D&C 132?
I do not believe man will ever create his own world or worlds for his children. I clearly delineate between man and God in the eternities. Though we are made in his likeness and image we are not the same being as is God. His DNA, if he calls his that, and ours is never mingled.
Uh, no. I never said that. I believe Celestial beings form spirit children. They formed us in fact. That is why the teaching that God is literally our spirit father and Lucifer is Jesus's spirit brother are both false. Jesus Christ is the only begotten of the Father. Also, the teaching about a Heavenly Mother is false since those that formed our spirit beings were not God, only Celestial beings working under the direction of God. This is the meaning of exaltation after all. To become part of this eternal cycle of renewal as Celestial beings.


So you do accept that celestial beings get their own mansion/world. One that they do not create even if they might assist in some way. Like:

Um could we maybe have those mountains end up over here so this river flows down there please.

What ev.

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Um could we maybe have those mountains end up over here so this river flows down there please.

What ev.


all that takes is a good backhoe, and some concrete. Dams go up every day doing exactly that.

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So you do accept that celestial beings get their own mansion/world. One that they do not create even if they might assist in some way. Like:

Um could we maybe have those mountains end up over here so this river flows down there please.

What ev.
No, I didn't say that either. I don't accept that Celestial beings get their own planet. When we are exalted, we will inherit the Earth. This world will be our home.


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In March of the year he died—1844—the Prophet had amplified this doctrine in a monumental address which he delivered in the grove which was just below the temple site. The text of that address has become an important doctrinal document in the theology of the Church. It is known as the King Follett Sermon.

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Since the OP is talking about lies in "Mormonism 101:"

LDS Newsroom wrote:
Do Latter-day Saints believe that they will “get their own planet”?

No. This idea is not taught in Latter-day Saint scripture, nor is it a doctrine of the Church. This misunderstanding stems from speculative comments unreflective of scriptural doctrine. Mormons believe that we are all sons and daughters of God and that all of us have the potential to grow during and after this life to become like our Heavenly Father (see Romans 8:16-17). The Church does not and has never purported to fully understand the specifics of Christ’s statement that “in my Father’s house are many mansions” (John 14:2).


Henry B. Eyring, October 2002 Ensign

Our conviction is that God, our Heavenly Father, wants us to live the life that He does. We learn both the spiritual things and the secular things “so we may one day create worlds [and] people and govern them” (Spencer W. Kimball, The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, ed. Edward L. Kimball [1982], 386).

Doctrine and Covenants Institute Student Manual: Section 138 - Vision of the Redemption of the Dead

D&C 138:12–17. Will Many People Be Saved in the Celestial Kingdom?
.........
President Spencer W. Kimball said in a general priesthood meeting:

“Brethren, 225,000 of you are here tonight. I suppose 225,000 of you may become gods. There seems to be plenty of space out there in the universe. And the Lord has proved that he knows how to do it. I think he could make, or probably have us help make, worlds for all of us, for every one of us 225,000.

“Just think of the possibilities, the potential. Every little boy that has just been born becomes an heir to this glorious, glorious program. When he is grown, he meets a lovely woman; they are married in the holy temple. They live all the commandments of the Lord. They keep themselves clean. And then they become sons of God, and they go forward with their great program—they go beyond the angels, beyond the angels and the gods that are waiting there. They go to their exaltation.” (In Conference Report, Oct. 1975, p. 120; or Ensign, Nov. 1975, p. 80 ; see also Alma 13:10–12 .)


“Chapter 36: Eternal Life,” Gospel Fundamentals

To live in the highest part of the celestial kingdom is called exaltation* or eternal life. To be able to live in this part of the celestial kingdom, people must have been married in the temple and must have kept the sacred promises they made in the temple. They will receive everything our Father in Heaven has and will become like Him. They will even be able to have spirit children and make new worlds for them to live on, and do all the things our Father in Heaven has done.

Presidents of the Church Student Manual - Religion 345
Chapter 5 - Lorenzo Snow - Fifth President of the Church

They Shall Organize Worlds and Rule Over Them

“Only a short time before his death, President Snow visited the Brigham Young University [then Brigham Young Academy], at Provo. President Brimhall escorted the party through one of the buildings; he wanted to reach the assembly room as soon as possible, as the students had already gathered. They were going through one of the kindergarten rooms; President Brimhall had reached the door and was about to open it and go on when President Snow said: ‘Wait a moment, President Brimhall, I want to see these children at work; what are they doing?’ Brother Brimhall replied that they were making clay spheres. ‘That is very interesting,’ the President said. ‘I want to watch them.’ He quietly watched the children for several minutes and then lifted a little girl, perhaps six years of age, and stood her on a table. He then took the clay sphere from her hand, and, turning to Brother Brimhall, said:

“‘President Brimhall, these children are now at play, making mud worlds, the time will come when some of these boys, through their faithfulness to the gospel, will progress and develop in knowledge, intelligence and power, in future eternities, until they shall be able to go out into space where there is unorganized matter and call together the necessary elements, and through their knowledge of and control over the laws and powers of nature, to organize matter into worlds on which their posterity may dwell, and over which they shall rule as gods’” (Snow, Improvement Era, June 1919, 658–59).


“Chapter 4: Teaching Children: from Four to Eleven Years,” A Parent’s Guide

Teach Children to Accept and Understand Their Gender Roles
.........
Each one of you has it within the realm of his possibility to develop a kingdom over which you will preside as its king and god. You will need to develop yourself and grow in ability and power and worthiness, to govern such a world with all of its people. You are sent to this earth not merely to have a good time or to satisfy urges or passions or desires. You are sent to this earth, not to ride merry-go-rounds, airplanes, automobiles, and have what the world calls ‘fun.’

“You are sent to this world with a very serious purpose. You are sent to school, for that matter, to begin as a human infant and grow to unbelievable proportions in wisdom, judgment, knowledge, and power” (The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, ed. Edward L. Kimball [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1982], p. 31).

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 Post subject: Re: Is the King Follet discourse doctrine or not?
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Since the OP is talking about lies in "Mormonism 101:"

LDS Newsroom wrote:
Do Latter-day Saints believe that they will “get their own planet”?

No. This idea is not taught in Latter-day Saint scripture, nor is it a doctrine of the Church. This misunderstanding stems from speculative comments unreflective of scriptural doctrine. Mormons believe that we are all sons and daughters of God and that all of us have the potential to grow during and after this life to become like our Heavenly Father (see Romans 8:16-17). The Church does not and has never purported to fully understand the specifics of Christ’s statement that “in my Father’s house are many mansions” (John 14:2).


Henry B. Eyring, October 2002 Ensign

Our conviction is that God, our Heavenly Father, wants us to live the life that He does. We learn both the spiritual things and the secular things “so we may one day create worlds [and] people and govern them” (Spencer W. Kimball, The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, ed. Edward L. Kimball [1982], 386).

Doctrine and Covenants Institute Student Manual: Section 138 - Vision of the Redemption of the Dead

D&C 138:12–17. Will Many People Be Saved in the Celestial Kingdom?
.........
President Spencer W. Kimball said in a general priesthood meeting:

“Brethren, 225,000 of you are here tonight. I suppose 225,000 of you may become gods. There seems to be plenty of space out there in the universe. And the Lord has proved that he knows how to do it. I think he could make, or probably have us help make, worlds for all of us, for every one of us 225,000.

“Just think of the possibilities, the potential. Every little boy that has just been born becomes an heir to this glorious, glorious program. When he is grown, he meets a lovely woman; they are married in the holy temple. They live all the commandments of the Lord. They keep themselves clean. And then they become sons of God, and they go forward with their great program—they go beyond the angels, beyond the angels and the gods that are waiting there. They go to their exaltation.” (In Conference Report, Oct. 1975, p. 120; or Ensign, Nov. 1975, p. 80 ; see also Alma 13:10–12 .)


“Chapter 36: Eternal Life,” Gospel Fundamentals

To live in the highest part of the celestial kingdom is called exaltation* or eternal life. To be able to live in this part of the celestial kingdom, people must have been married in the temple and must have kept the sacred promises they made in the temple. They will receive everything our Father in Heaven has and will become like Him. They will even be able to have spirit children and make new worlds for them to live on, and do all the things our Father in Heaven has done.

Presidents of the Church Student Manual - Religion 345
Chapter 5 - Lorenzo Snow - Fifth President of the Church

They Shall Organize Worlds and Rule Over Them

“Only a short time before his death, President Snow visited the Brigham Young University [then Brigham Young Academy], at Provo. President Brimhall escorted the party through one of the buildings; he wanted to reach the assembly room as soon as possible, as the students had already gathered. They were going through one of the kindergarten rooms; President Brimhall had reached the door and was about to open it and go on when President Snow said: ‘Wait a moment, President Brimhall, I want to see these children at work; what are they doing?’ Brother Brimhall replied that they were making clay spheres. ‘That is very interesting,’ the President said. ‘I want to watch them.’ He quietly watched the children for several minutes and then lifted a little girl, perhaps six years of age, and stood her on a table. He then took the clay sphere from her hand, and, turning to Brother Brimhall, said:

“‘President Brimhall, these children are now at play, making mud worlds, the time will come when some of these boys, through their faithfulness to the gospel, will progress and develop in knowledge, intelligence and power, in future eternities, until they shall be able to go out into space where there is unorganized matter and call together the necessary elements, and through their knowledge of and control over the laws and powers of nature, to organize matter into worlds on which their posterity may dwell, and over which they shall rule as gods’” (Snow, Improvement Era, June 1919, 658–59).


“Chapter 4: Teaching Children: from Four to Eleven Years,” A Parent’s Guide

Teach Children to Accept and Understand Their Gender Roles
.........
Each one of you has it within the realm of his possibility to develop a kingdom over which you will preside as its king and god. You will need to develop yourself and grow in ability and power and worthiness, to govern such a world with all of its people. You are sent to this earth not merely to have a good time or to satisfy urges or passions or desires. You are sent to this earth, not to ride merry-go-rounds, airplanes, automobiles, and have what the world calls ‘fun.’

“You are sent to this world with a very serious purpose. You are sent to school, for that matter, to begin as a human infant and grow to unbelievable proportions in wisdom, judgment, knowledge, and power” (The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, ed. Edward L. Kimball [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1982], p. 31).


The men running the Church newsroom are Goddamn liars. The Mormon Church is a lying organization. Mainstream America will never buy it. The church will continue to bleed members and baptisms will be basically stupid people joining the church.

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Darth J wrote:
Since the OP is talking about lies in "Mormonism 101:"

LDS Newsroom wrote:
Do Latter-day Saints believe that they will “get their own planet”?

No. This idea is not taught in Latter-day Saint scripture, nor is it a doctrine of the Church. This misunderstanding stems from speculative comments unreflective of scriptural doctrine. Mormons believe that we are all sons and daughters of God and that all of us have the potential to grow during and after this life to become like our Heavenly Father (see Romans 8:16-17). The Church does not and has never purported to fully understand the specifics of Christ’s statement that “in my Father’s house are many mansions” (John 14:2).


Henry B. Eyring, October 2002 Ensign

Our conviction is that God, our Heavenly Father, wants us to live the life that He does. We learn both the spiritual things and the secular things “so we may one day create worlds [and] people and govern them” (Spencer W. Kimball, The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, ed. Edward L. Kimball [1982], 386).


Doctrine and Covenants Institute Student Manual: Section 138 - Vision of the Redemption of the Dead

D&C 138:12–17. Will Many People Be Saved in the Celestial Kingdom?
.........
President Spencer W. Kimball said in a general priesthood meeting:

“Brethren, 225,000 of you are here tonight. I suppose 225,000 of you may become gods. There seems to be plenty of space out there in the universe. And the Lord has proved that he knows how to do it. I think he could make, or probably have us help make, worlds for all of us, for every one of us 225,000.

“Just think of the possibilities, the potential. Every little boy that has just been born becomes an heir to this glorious, glorious program. When he is grown, he meets a lovely woman; they are married in the holy temple. They live all the commandments of the Lord. They keep themselves clean. And then they become sons of God, and they go forward with their great program—they go beyond the angels, beyond the angels and the gods that are waiting there. They go to their exaltation.” (In Conference Report, Oct. 1975, p. 120; or Ensign, Nov. 1975, p. 80 ; see also Alma 13:10–12 .)


“Chapter 36: Eternal Life,” Gospel Fundamentals

To live in the highest part of the celestial kingdom is called exaltation* or eternal life. To be able to live in this part of the celestial kingdom, people must have been married in the temple and must have kept the sacred promises they made in the temple. They will receive everything our Father in Heaven has and will become like Him. They will even be able to have spirit children and make new worlds for them to live on, and do all the things our Father in Heaven has done.

Presidents of the Church Student Manual - Religion 345
Chapter 5 - Lorenzo Snow - Fifth President of the Church

They Shall Organize Worlds and Rule Over Them

“Only a short time before his death, President Snow visited the Brigham Young University [then Brigham Young Academy], at Provo. President Brimhall escorted the party through one of the buildings; he wanted to reach the assembly room as soon as possible, as the students had already gathered. They were going through one of the kindergarten rooms; President Brimhall had reached the door and was about to open it and go on when President Snow said: ‘Wait a moment, President Brimhall, I want to see these children at work; what are they doing?’ Brother Brimhall replied that they were making clay spheres. ‘That is very interesting,’ the President said. ‘I want to watch them.’ He quietly watched the children for several minutes and then lifted a little girl, perhaps six years of age, and stood her on a table. He then took the clay sphere from her hand, and, turning to Brother Brimhall, said:

“‘President Brimhall, these children are now at play, making mud worlds, the time will come when some of these boys, through their faithfulness to the gospel, will progress and develop in knowledge, intelligence and power, in future eternities, until they shall be able to go out into space where there is unorganized matter and call together the necessary elements, and through their knowledge of and control over the laws and powers of nature, to organize matter into worlds on which their posterity may dwell, and over which they shall rule as gods’” (Snow, Improvement Era, June 1919, 658–59).


“Chapter 4: Teaching Children: from Four to Eleven Years,” A Parent’s Guide

Teach Children to Accept and Understand Their Gender Roles
.........
Each one of you has it within the realm of his possibility to develop a kingdom over which you will preside as its king and god. You will need to develop yourself and grow in ability and power and worthiness, to govern such a world with all of its people. You are sent to this earth not merely to have a good time or to satisfy urges or passions or desires. You are sent to this earth, not to ride merry-go-rounds, airplanes, automobiles, and have what the world calls ‘fun.’

“You are sent to this world with a very serious purpose. You are sent to school, for that matter, to begin as a human infant and grow to unbelievable proportions in wisdom, judgment, knowledge, and power” (The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, ed. Edward L. Kimball [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1982], p. 31).



Yeah but all of those guys were speaking as men not prophets!!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:21 pm 
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Yeah but all of those guys were speaking as men not prophets!!
Correction. They were speaking in the role of prophets of the Church and teaching false doctrine like men often do when they don't check with God first.


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Has anybody mentioned the King Follett Discourse is doctrine?

At least the amalgamated text published by Deseret Books in The Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith . . .

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Some interesting blog posts on the history of the publication of the KFD in the LDS Church can be found at Stapley's blog Splendid Sun:

http://www.splendidsun.com/wp/a-textual-history-of-the-kfd-part-i-sources-to-the-history-of-joseph-smith/
http://www.splendidsun.com/wp/a-textual ... d-part-ii/

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And a fine article on it from BYU Studies. https://ojs.lib.byu.edu/spc/index.php/BYUStudies/article/viewFile/5012/4662
It has been published officially by the LDS church many times. I remember my ward library had stacks of various pamphlets published by the church, one of which was the King Follett discourse. If the KFD os not doctrinal, then nothing in the LDS church is.

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Nightlion wrote:
So you do accept that celestial beings get their own mansion/world. One that they do not create even if they might assist in some way. Like:

Um could we maybe have those mountains end up over here so this river flows down there please.

What ev.
No, I didn't say that either. I don't accept that Celestial beings get their own planet. When we are exalted, we will inherit the Earth. This world will be our home.


You err not knowing the scripture my friend. This earth is undergoing changes preparatory to it becoming a celestial orb, where in fact the Supreme Headquarters of the Universe will be trucked to and settled down into like a nail hammered into it. This earth is where Jesus Christ ascends the throne of eternal power. (which is where he was before as he told the Jews in John 6)

Look back at Adam and Eve and project that scenario into your future IF you get exaltation. See? You will get your own world handed to you by the Christ who is the Only Begotten of the Father and the Lamb of God in that new turn of their eternal round of a course.

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 Post subject: Re: Is the King Follet discourse doctrine or not?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:14 pm 
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You err not knowing the scripture my friend. This earth is undergoing changes preparatory to it becoming a celestial orb, where in fact the Supreme Headquarters of the Universe will be trucked to and settled down into like a nail hammered into it. This earth is where Jesus Christ ascends the throne of eternal power. (which is where he was before as he told the Jews in John 6)

Look back at Adam and Eve and project that scenario into your future IF you get exaltation. See? You will get your own world handed to you by the Christ who is the Only Begotten of the Father and the Lamb of God in that new turn of their eternal round of a course.
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Matt 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.


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 Post subject: Re: Is the King Follet discourse doctrine or not?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:12 pm 
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Darth J wrote:
Since the OP is talking about lies in "Mormonism 101:"

LDS Newsroom wrote:
Do Latter-day Saints believe that they will “get their own planet”?

No. This idea is not taught in Latter-day Saint scripture, nor is it a doctrine of the Church. This misunderstanding stems from speculative comments unreflective of scriptural doctrine. Mormons believe that we are all sons and daughters of God and that all of us have the potential to grow during and after this life to become like our Heavenly Father (see Romans 8:16-17). The Church does not and has never purported to fully understand the specifics of Christ’s statement that “in my Father’s house are many mansions” (John 14:2).


Henry B. Eyring, October 2002 Ensign

Our conviction is that God, our Heavenly Father, wants us to live the life that He does. We learn both the spiritual things and the secular things “so we may one day create worlds [and] people and govern them” (Spencer W. Kimball, The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, ed. Edward L. Kimball [1982], 386).

Doctrine and Covenants Institute Student Manual: Section 138 - Vision of the Redemption of the Dead

D&C 138:12–17. Will Many People Be Saved in the Celestial Kingdom?
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President Spencer W. Kimball said in a general priesthood meeting:

“Brethren, 225,000 of you are here tonight. I suppose 225,000 of you may become gods. There seems to be plenty of space out there in the universe. And the Lord has proved that he knows how to do it. I think he could make, or probably have us help make, worlds for all of us, for every one of us 225,000.

“Just think of the possibilities, the potential. Every little boy that has just been born becomes an heir to this glorious, glorious program. When he is grown, he meets a lovely woman; they are married in the holy temple. They live all the commandments of the Lord. They keep themselves clean. And then they become sons of God, and they go forward with their great program—they go beyond the angels, beyond the angels and the gods that are waiting there. They go to their exaltation.” (In Conference Report, Oct. 1975, p. 120; or Ensign, Nov. 1975, p. 80 ; see also Alma 13:10–12 .)


“Chapter 36: Eternal Life,” Gospel Fundamentals

To live in the highest part of the celestial kingdom is called exaltation* or eternal life. To be able to live in this part of the celestial kingdom, people must have been married in the temple and must have kept the sacred promises they made in the temple. They will receive everything our Father in Heaven has and will become like Him. They will even be able to have spirit children and make new worlds for them to live on, and do all the things our Father in Heaven has done.

Presidents of the Church Student Manual - Religion 345
Chapter 5 - Lorenzo Snow - Fifth President of the Church

They Shall Organize Worlds and Rule Over Them

“Only a short time before his death, President Snow visited the Brigham Young University [then Brigham Young Academy], at Provo. President Brimhall escorted the party through one of the buildings; he wanted to reach the assembly room as soon as possible, as the students had already gathered. They were going through one of the kindergarten rooms; President Brimhall had reached the door and was about to open it and go on when President Snow said: ‘Wait a moment, President Brimhall, I want to see these children at work; what are they doing?’ Brother Brimhall replied that they were making clay spheres. ‘That is very interesting,’ the President said. ‘I want to watch them.’ He quietly watched the children for several minutes and then lifted a little girl, perhaps six years of age, and stood her on a table. He then took the clay sphere from her hand, and, turning to Brother Brimhall, said:

“‘President Brimhall, these children are now at play, making mud worlds, the time will come when some of these boys, through their faithfulness to the gospel, will progress and develop in knowledge, intelligence and power, in future eternities, until they shall be able to go out into space where there is unorganized matter and call together the necessary elements, and through their knowledge of and control over the laws and powers of nature, to organize matter into worlds on which their posterity may dwell, and over which they shall rule as gods’” (Snow, Improvement Era, June 1919, 658–59).


“Chapter 4: Teaching Children: from Four to Eleven Years,” A Parent’s Guide

Teach Children to Accept and Understand Their Gender Roles
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Each one of you has it within the realm of his possibility to develop a kingdom over which you will preside as its king and god. You will need to develop yourself and grow in ability and power and worthiness, to govern such a world with all of its people. You are sent to this earth not merely to have a good time or to satisfy urges or passions or desires. You are sent to this earth, not to ride merry-go-rounds, airplanes, automobiles, and have what the world calls ‘fun.’

“You are sent to this world with a very serious purpose. You are sent to school, for that matter, to begin as a human infant and grow to unbelievable proportions in wisdom, judgment, knowledge, and power” (The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, ed. Edward L. Kimball [Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1982], p. 31).


President Gordon B. Hinckley wrote:
Q: Just another related question that comes up is the statements in the King Follet discourse by the Prophet.

A: Yeah

Q: ...about that, God the Father was once a man as we were. This is something that Christian writers are always addressing. Is this the teaching of the church today, that God the Father was once a man like we are?

A: I don't know that we teach it. I don't know that we emphasize it. I haven't heard it discussed for a long time in public discourse. I don't know. I don't know all the circumstances under which that statement was made. I understand the philosophical background behind it. But I don't know a lot about it and I don't know that others know a lot about it. http://www.fairlds.org/Misc/Does_Presid ... trine.html


Gordon B. Hinckley
September 1994 Ensign

In March of the year he died—1844—the Prophet had amplified this doctrine in a monumental address which he delivered in the grove which was just below the temple site. The text of that address has become an important doctrinal document in the theology of the Church. It is known as the King Follett Sermon.

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