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 Post subject: Leftist Bigot Bill Maher in the Stocks Again
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:01 pm 
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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/ ... sms_a_cult

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Mega Obama Donor Bill Maher: Yeah, Mormonism's a "Cult"
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5/21/2012


Maher's brand of bile is more overt than the preferred approach of his fellow media lefties, but subtlety was never Bill's modus operandi. Via Twitter:


RT @billmaher: Why even listen to #MittRomney on foreign policy? His entire FP experience is 2 yrs trying to brow-beat Frenchmen into joining his cult


Quick reactions:

(1) Some liberals are already saying that because Maher is a militant, aggressive atheist, he views all religions as cults. Has he called Barack Obama's Trinity United Church of Christ a "cult"? I can't seem to recall that particular smear for some reason.

(2) David Axelrod said just yesterday that Mitt Romney's Mormonism is "off the table" for the fall campaign. Will he encourage Obama's SuperPAC to return Maher's $1 million donation?

(3) But wait, you protest, the Obama campaign can't legally control the behavior and decisions of its Super PAC. True. Over to you, Bill Burton -- director of Obama's SuperPAC:


Priorities USA, a super-PAC that supports President Obama, won't touch on Mitt Romney's Mormonism in its attacks, the group's head told The Hill Monday morning. "We are ruling that out," Priorities USA senior strategist Bill Burton said. "I don't even see the point in engaging in this conversation too much. ... The campaign said they wouldn't engage on it. I haven't heard of any Democrat who has said that should be touched."


Now that he has clearly established that bigotry and religious fear-mongering have no place in the 2012 campaign, will Burton stamp "return to sender" on Maher's massive check? If not, I don't want to hear one single peep from Obamaworld about Mitt Romney's lack of "moral leadership" in the realm of today's escalating politics of repudiation.

(4) Bill Maher is an insufferable hater who's been slamming Mormonism (and other faiths) for years. He explicitly called Mitt Romney's church "a cult" last month:

Yeah, don't expect Billy B. to mail back that seven-figure check any time soon. This is who Bill Maher is, and Team Obama knew it when they accepted his cash. And by the way, Maher is dead wrong that Romney "only" donated to his church. He's also given hefty sums to cancer and MS research organizations, charities for our troops, and children's groups. And Romney's contributions to the Mormon church weren't just to help indigent Mormons, they were to help facilitate the church's philanthropic and humanitarian work around the world -- or as Maher would characterize it, "brow-beating poor people into benefiting from his cult."


UPDATE - No comment Team Obama: "The Obama campaign did not respond to an e-mail from BuzzFeed asking whether they would repudiate Maher's remarks."

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 Post subject: Re: Leftist Bigot Bill Maher in the Stocks Again
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:09 pm 
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If he had said Heaven's Gate was a cult, I'm sure Droopy would be crying just as hard.

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:34 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Leftist Bigot Bill Maher in the Stocks Again
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:45 pm 
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I am not much of a fan of Bill Maher...but the Mormon Church's "philanthropic and humanitarian" work around the world?


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:53 pm 
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Most people think mormonism is a cult, so I doubt Maher saying it will have any effect. Also, Romney did spend time in France trying to get people to join the church. So nothing new there either. JMost people running for president don't have a lot of foreign policy experience. Obama probably had more FP experience than GWB and Bill Clinton when they first ran for president, since he served in the Senate. The president will surround himself with people who are experts in FP.

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:51 pm 
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I am not much of a fan of Bill Maher...but the Mormon Church's "philanthropic and humanitarian" work around the world?



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 Post subject: Re: Leftist Bigot Bill Maher in the Stocks Again
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:01 pm 
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I'm curious if the author Guy Benson is the great grandson of you-know-who.

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:06 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Leftist Bigot Bill Maher in the Stocks Again
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:24 pm 
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Most people think mormonism is a cult, so I doubt Maher saying it will have any effect. Also, Romney did spend time in France trying to get people to join the church. So nothing new there either. JMost people running for president don't have a lot of foreign policy experience. Obama probably had more FP experience than GWB and Bill Clinton when they first ran for president, since he served in the Senate. The president will surround himself with people who are experts in FP.




I am not sure I would agree with that. Obama was only in the senate a couple of years before he started running. I don't know that would have given him very much FP expirience.

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 Post subject: Re: Leftist Bigot Bill Maher in the Stocks Again
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:26 pm 
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So what if he gives a million to Obama? I don't see how Dan and Droopy think this is in any way comparable to the fact that the vast majority of Romney's donors are wealthy millionaires who are expecting political favors when elected. Nearly half of Obama's donations come from small donors (less than $200) compared to Romney which is something like 15-20% I think. This indicates more every day Americans support Obama and also indicates that Romney is simply out of touch with America. He relies strictly on the uber wealthy for his campaign finance. It is the Republican way. Do favors for the wealthy and corporations and they will shower you with funding. This is why it was so important for the Republicans when the conservative Supreme Court ruled the way they did in Citizens United. It for the first time allowed unlimited political funding from corporations, which put a huge smile on the Republican's faces. Romney is the first Presidential candidate to take advantage of it, since he cannot rely on Americans to support his campaign.

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 Post subject: Re: Leftist Bigot Bill Maher in the Stocks Again
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 8:52 pm 
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Kevin Graham wrote:
So what if he gives a million to Obama? I don't see how Dan and Droopy think this is in any way comparable to the fact that the vast majority of Romney's donors are wealthy millionaires who are expecting political favors when elected. Nearly half of Obama's donations come from small donors (less than $200) compared to Romney which is something like 15-20% I think.


As of April 30th from http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/index.php:

Romney 12%
Obama 44% (down from 50+% probably from influxes of major donors like the recent George Clooney fifteen million dollar fundraiser)

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 Post subject: Re: Leftist Bigot Bill Maher in the Stocks Again
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I'm not a fan of Maher, Romney or Obama. Maher is just the anti-religion rhetorist of the three. That's the only difference that I can see.

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:51 pm 
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I'm not a fan of Maher, Romney or Obama. Maher is just the anti-religion rhetorist of the three. That's the only difference that I can see.


Bill Maher is a member of PETA.

Mitt Romney strapped his dog to the roof of a car in a pet carrier for a 12 hr car ride.

Another difference you should see.

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 Post subject: Re: Leftist Bigot Bill Maher in the Stocks Again
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:57 pm 
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madeleine wrote:
I'm not a fan of Maher, Romney or Obama. Maher is just the anti-religion rhetorist of the three. That's the only difference that I can see.


Bill Maher is a member of PETA.

Mitt Romney strapped his dog to the roof of a car in a pet carrier for a 12 hr car ride.

Another difference you should see.


Do I care about which clubs rich men belong to?

No.

Maher would kill his own unborn children out of convenience. He's more concerned about the life of dogs. Romney would as well, given the right circumstances. Obama thinks killing his unborn grandchildren is a blessing for his daughters.

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 Post subject: Re: Leftist Bigot Bill Maher in the Stocks Again
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:49 am 
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madeleine wrote:
Maher would kill his own unborn children out of convenience... Obama thinks killing his unborn grandchildren is a blessing for his daughters.


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 Post subject: Re: Leftist Bigot Bill Maher in the Stocks Again
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:19 am 
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Most people think mormonism is a cult,


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:51 am 
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Maher would kill his own unborn children out of convenience. He's more concerned about the life of dogs. Romney would as well, given the right circumstances. Obama thinks killing his unborn grandchildren is a blessing for his daughters.


Or, one might more accurately say:

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If one of Maher's daughters said she did not want to carry a pregnancy to term, he would raise no opposition to her getting the necessary medical clearance for a termination. Obama wants his daughters to have the right to make that decision too.


It is, of course, always a decision for the pregnant woman to make whether she wishes to seek a termination, and if it ever isn't, it ought to be.

If you have a case (and I don't dispute there is a case to be argued on your side of the abortion question), there is no need to write in a ridiculously exaggerated way.

(For the avoidance of time-wasting, please note that the revised passage above is written on the basis that the women in question cannot simply get a termination on their own say-so without medical approval. If the decisions to allow such medical approval are not being made as the law provides, then they ought to be.)

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 8:38 am 
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Droopy, as a newcomer to the board I must admit to not fully understanding your posting style. I am, however, willing to be educated both on your intent and on the substance of Mormon philanthropy and humanitarian aid. Perhaps you can provide a list of projects and offerings that fit the category...


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Maher would kill his own unborn children out of convenience. He's more concerned about the life of dogs. Romney would as well, given the right circumstances. Obama thinks killing his unborn grandchildren is a blessing for his daughters.


Wow that wasn't hyperbolic at all. You aren't a one issue voter are you?

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 Post subject: Re: Leftist Bigot Bill Maher in the Stocks Again
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madeleine wrote:


Wow that wasn't hyperbolic at all. You aren't a one issue voter are you?


It is the way I see it.

Not a one issue voter, but abortion is an important issue for me. I can't for the life of me determine who I'm going to vote for this time around. I'd just sit it out, but I believe I have a moral obligation to pick one and vote.

I know plenty of Catholics who will vote for anyone but Obama, and are appalled that I'm not there. His poor judgement on the birth-control mandate, combined with his statement that abortion is a blessing for his daughters, did him in for most Catholics. (Going-to-church Catholics, not Catholics-in-name-only Catholics).

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If you have a case (and I don't dispute there is a case to be argued on your side of the abortion question), there is no need to write in a ridiculously exaggerated way.



What it comes down to, is that I believe all human life possesses an inherent dignity that warrants protecting it. I have yet to see a convincing argument that the unborn, at any stage, should be dispossessed of this inherent dignity. Nor have I seen any argument, that would attempt to convince someone such as myself, that couldn't be applied just as well to an infant.

Perhaps exaggerated to you, but to me, I see no difference between killing the growing life in a womb, to killing you. I see it as, a lot of people have convinced themselves that human life is disposable, because it might be inconvenient, emotionally difficult, even personally dangerous. I don't hold the view that the answer to these struggles is to end an innocent life.

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