I think women feel this from a different point of view. A male's first emotional relationship is with a woman (his mother). A female's first emotional relationship is also with a woman (her mother). I think women in general feel a closer attachment to their own sex.

MCB,

I have a story for you. I recently visited the local fabric store looking for a seam binding. It is needed for gathers on a biased fabric. A first for me. I asked the lady behind the counter for it and she stared back at me in silence, as if something didn't register. I looked down, a little embarrassed because well, it's been many years since I spent much time in a fabric store and I was the only male there.

I started describing what it's used for, but I felt weird and gave up.

Then tonight, my 6-yr old son and I visited a much better fabric store, and we had the time of our life! This lady taught me all kinds of things and showed me the most glorious fabrics and notions. We spent time with these sheer silks and stretch meshes (for linings). She also suggested I teach my son how to make felt monsters. He was very happy about that. There was zero awkwardness and that made all the difference.

I share this story because it feels so amazing to not have bipolar worlds male and female. It feels so good to see everything as one. It is refreshing. Maybe it's heaven.

Zeezrom,

This spending time in a fabric store and enjoying it sounds serious. Perhaps you are 10% gay. Do consider.

Paul O

A few years ago some members of this forum were discussing their 5-10% gayness, but they talked about it in terms of man crushes. Apparently Mormon author Terryl Givens has enough magnetic attraction to invoke this response.

Nothing wrong with that. Why be judgmental about that when others failed to condemn thoughts of Juliann in a blue silk teddy, plushy fur costumes and robotic pleasure attachments? To each their own.

60% of the time, I'm gay all the time.

I'll settle for 7%

8% and we have a deal.

Paul O

Oh, all right. You got me beat.

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I can see why you were uncomfortable as LDS. The internet does wonders in blurring gender roles, for those who choose to use it that way. My grandfather was a tailor.

So I wonder how long it will be before Terryl Givens decides it is time to leave?

Welcome to the gay club. Just lay back and relax!

Just when I'm on the verge of discovering the deepest secrets of the universe. I'm working on becoming an enabler.

lulu - assuming you're not accusing me of not being pre-menstrual

I really enjoy hanging out with my lesbian cousin, a masculine dyke (her words, not mine). Sharing a beer, telling dirty jokes, checking out straight women--things like that seem more fun with her than with many of my male friends.

Zee, I will tell you what I tell a lot of married Mormon men when they are praying for forgiveness: It's only gay if you push back.

Enjoy!

\m/

haha Zee I went to a fabric store for the first time the other day as well. It was pretty weird walking in there and I didn't have a cluew what I was doing. I was trying to find a color for a table cloth runner. I ended up finding one and I used this seemless tape that you iron on for the edges of the runner.

I'm not sure how gay I am. I can't really tell when a guy is good looking but I can usually tell if there not good looking. If that makes any sense. I do think muscles on a guy looks pretty cool but there is no desire to be hugged by them.

Does a threesome with another guy and a girl make you more gay? Not that I have done that. I have been asked though haha.

In a perfect world, this topic wouldn't even be an issue of concern. Who the f*** should care when a man bakes a buttermilk chocolate cake or a woman flirts with a redhead in a pleated skirt?

Precisely.

Thank God in heaven I've been blessed with a life partner that accepts me and my quirks.

Zee, my uncle is a pretty awesome pie maker in our family and I full accept that right into my mouth.

Damn,

This guy is so hot.

Who is that zee?

Zee, my Dad likes Lady Gaga as well!

I thought this was a thread about 50 Shades of Grey.

So disappointed...

- VRDRC