Somebody please capture his post via copy/paste (oh wait, I already have).
It's so classic...and condemning. I have incontrovertible proof of 1) the existence of the essay/hit piece....
So we know there was some thing written, right? As I understand it you haven't seen it, right? What are we even talking about? To be fair, which it seems is not happening here at all, what Daniel called alleged is not an essay, but a "smear" or "hit piece". It seems whatever it is, he wouldn't call it what no one here has even seen.
2) his knowledge about it....3) of the GA condemnation of the whole enterprise....
So...CFR. what is the incontrovertible proof of this? Can anyone see this, or shall we all trust another?
and 4) of his direct censure (as it relates to all this).....so his use of the word "alleged" stands as a classic, yet condemning example of his continued disingenuous-ness as an apologist.
look. He might have been censured. I don't doubt it. It could have happened even if it was not a smear or hit piece. Things get way overblown in these parts. Who knows what we're even talking about? I sure don't.
Does anyone else note how sad it is that Daniel Peterson now communicates from a solo blog where he doesn't even allow comments.....that he no longer even has the ability or credibility to directly engage in the difficult conversations? This is LDS apologetics in the 20th and 21st centuries...retreat only to places where you are surrounded by supporters...because if you engage critics directly in a neutral forum....you come off looking so silly...as if you are trying to prove the location of Santa's workshop.
ouch. That's a lot of hostility for the man.
I really, honestly, truly feel sorry for Daniel Peterson, Mike Ash, Allen Wyatt, Scott Gordon, Trevor Holyoak, John Lynch, Jack Welch, etc. They have built their houses upon sand, and now the foundation is slowly washing away. Even the brethren seem to see the writing on the wall (though we obviously have a long way to go in that regard). Still -- so much of their life's work is truly (and unfortunately) an embarrassment and damaging to Mormonism and Mormons alike: a sad, destructive sham.
So I feel sorry for them that in some sense, they have been (and ultimately will be) left out to dry. As dupes.
But ultimately, they chose this path.....and they have done so, so much damage to so many people....I can't say I'm sad to see their brand of apologetics die off. Which it is....and will continue to do so.
Up until now (2012), LDS apologetics have been a tragic, damaging embarrassment to everyone involved. May it rest in peace.
Interesting prediction. I guess we'll all see how it all plays out.
My suggestion to this board: At some point, it's time to ignore the troll....and move on. He's/they're just not credible...and honestly do not deserve our attention any longer. I think that the smartest thing Mormon Discussions could ever do would be to stop giving them air time...and let them (LDS apologists) fade away.
They are just....not....credible in any meaningful way, shape or form. They are a tragic, damaging joke. If I weren't so thoroughly exposed to the damage they have done (and continue to do), I would not speak so harshly. But I am....so I do.
My 2 cents.
Interesting two cents. The main objective as I see from folks here is to attack apologists. If they stop that, they may end up actually doing something meaningful.