As poster Ajax could point out, we don't need it and we don't want to help pay for those that do need it.
Ajax would say that if you end up needing government help, most of you will not be eligible, regardless of whether you truly need it or not. You are however eligible and to go to prison if you don't pay for other people to get it. Universal healthcare simply cannot be universal. There will always be those who must go without. So let's rephrase this to represent my position better.
"As poster Ajax could point out, we did need it but since we've been declared ineligible, we'd rather not pay for those who the government sees as eligible.
Moshka I generally don't view liberals as ethical people. For me it usually isn't much different than basic theft. I don't believe that about you. I think you're mistaken if you think the government will be there if you truly need help. But I don't think you're a thief. I would suspect you even pay your taxes unlike most of the other high ranking democrats who seem to be experts at getting out of paying them.
In short, it goes against what defines Mormonistic Conservatives as a people.
You can be Mormon and be a Democrat. Jay Golden Kimball was a Democrat.
Ignore the similarity to that plan in Massachusetts which future President Romney had nothing to do with.
Mitt Romney is a politician. He'll play the middle if elected. But we're talking about the status quo. Obama is undoubtedly the most fiscally irrepsonsible president this country has ever seen. Given four more years and no reelection to campaign for, we will be living in the United Socialist States of America. I think there's too much at stake for the country to let that happen, but it very well could.
Sorry for the dealyed response. I've been working my tail off for the corporate man lately. Greed is the corporate game, your side has that right. Watching other people get rich off my life's labor is no paradise, but it's not the USSR either. Watching people who have maneuvered out of work come to me for free care makes my blood boil, especially when I'm at work sick because if the doctor misses work it's an economic slam all the way down the chain. Thankfully my corporate bosses refuse to take medicare or medicaid.