Enuma Elish wrote:
Will Schryver wrote:An interesting, if not entirely surprising, gambit.
Indeed, I love you Will, and I'm sorry for my part in contributing to this public foray. I sincerely wish you nothing but happiness and success.
What I find interesting about you Enuma is you are a genuinely nice person. To go this far to extend the olive branch to Will to demonstrate this is a good example. Will dishes it out... you don't. If you're going to play the 900 pound gorilla, it's going to come back; a function of karma. I see your killing them with kindness
tactic a mixture of personal agenda and heartfelt goodwill. The main point you and Will have in common is the same, which is you both share the plight of continuing to deceive people into belief that Mormonism is true, when you both know for a fact it's not. Your underlying agenda is the purpose of this thread and is one I find sickening, mainly because you both know there's a willing audience who wants you both to succeed. They trust you to tell them the truth and believe your concocted arguments to hide the truth from them.
In the end Enuma, masked behind the supposed believers you both are, is the knowledge that Mormonism is false; you are partners in crime. This is why you both continue to present reverse engineered lies that tap dance around doubt to create an avenue for the believer to hold onto the desire that Mormonism is true based on distortion. The believers need people like you... someone to lie to them. This need
to form alliances is your motivation IMO, and whether or not it's rooted in supposed good intent, its heart is outright deception.
You both know enough about Mormon history to know its false, yet champion a cause you feel you can make flowered up arguments people will believe for whatever reason that motivates you both... the quintessential false witnesses. This is why you continue to ignore the fact that there's so many flaws with the testimony of Joseph Smith based on the facts, anyone with an ounce of deductive reasoning would see though it in a microsecond if they knew the actual truth... it's your collective agenda to deceive them.
There is no historical evidence to prove the Book of Mormon true, yet you argue there is, without presenting any data. You both know magical occult seer stones placed in a hat were the method of translating the Book of Mormon, and that those same seer stones were used for money-digging to see evil treasure guardians. You both know the Book of Abraham was "translated" (incorrectly) from a common funerary text from the pagan book of the dead, yet continue to champion all is not what it seems to be... you know all of this, as you have to in order to concoct theoretically plausible scenarios to convince others to believe your own supposed "faith" that you believe Joseph Smith's true history should be ignored. I find your motives to exemplify to worst part of humanity, which is to lie for personal agenda.
In the end Enuma, your choices will define who you were and your mark on this earth. If you (and Will) are successful, then others will believe the distortion you feed them based on what you know to be false. Sleep well... the very God you profess to believe in makes his stand on lying very clear. http://biblelight.net/false-prophets.htm
2 Pet 2:1 [NIV] But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2 Pet 2:2 [NIV] Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
2 Pet 2:3 [NIV] In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
2 Tim 4:2 [NIV] Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction.
2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
2 Tim 4:4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.
2 Tim 4:4 They will turn their ears away from the truth & turn aside to myths