Doctor Scratch wrote:
And I'll freely admit that I don't want my life destroyed by the apologists.
Okay... well logic dictates here that you should never have attempted to engage apologists, and you should have let the LDS people worship how they want to worship without criticism. I do not want to risk my life destroyed by jumping off a cliff, so I have chosen not to engage in that activity. See how simple this is?
Two things: I promised my wife I wouldn't expose her/us to the viciousness of TBMs (this was her request, entirely aside from me saying anything whatsoever about Mormonism or Mopologetics. She made this request *years* ago); and I know for a fact that LDS apologists have engaged in focused efforts to destroy critics' lives.
Likewise, Critics have engaged in focused attacks to destroy the Church. If this did not happen first, there would be no apologists today. It is easy enough to discover who you are, being an IT person, but I haven't and wouldn't engage in any negative activity towards you in real life. This is just a message board.
Nice to see your justification for the Mopologists' behavior. Does that make you feel warm and fuzzy inside?
As warm and fuzzy as it makes the Tanners feel that they've spent the majority of their lives trying to destroy an institution that millions hold dear. Now, there's
a noble pursuit, huh?
Okay. CFR. What did he produce that was "dishonest"? Can you back this up?
The DNA thing never amounted to anything. He and Metcalfe were so sure it would mean the end of the Book of Mormon as real history, but what came of it? Nothing.
How would you feel if I forwarded your remarks to Murphy?
I wouldn't care, he's a liar, along with Metcalfe. "Simon Belmont" can say whatever to whomever.
Or to your boss at Stamford Hospital?
Since you don't know who that is, nor does anyone called "Simon Belmont" work there, you'd just be seen as another spammer. Then I'd get a call about the e-mail filtering system not working.
Where did I say that I "left"? And watch your distortions there, Mr. IT @ Stamford.
What does that have to do with me working at the hospital?
And what "corner" is that, Simon? Feel free to elaborate.
You chicken out of almost every thread I confront you on.
I'm having a little trouble following your logic... Are you saying that I should "shut up" because the apologists are behaving deplorably, and you think I'm imitating them? Is that the gist of your argument?
This is very simple:
Critics criticize the church, then apologists defend it. Take away the critics, take away you
, and there would be no need for apologetics. How many times do we have to go over this?
Oh, I think Joseph has all kinds of problems. But to be frank, I think he's said many, many more intelligent things here than you have. Compared to you, Joseph is a veritable Einstein.
Well, you can say what you like, but at least I am no bigot.
Actually, you *do* play by invented rules. Even now you're violating the rules of the LDS Church. There is no way that any right-minded bishop or SP would approve of what you've been doing on this board, Simon. Your blood-curdling foul language, your cyber-stalking of Joseph; your lying and Lord knows what else. You're putting your family's eternal salvation in jeopardy with your posting.
No, I'm not.
Huh? How do you figure? Where have I ever engaged in a "smear" on someone's established academic expertise?
The poster known as Changed
Quinn was a Mormon historian and the apologists did everything they could to undermine him.
Yup, because he became a critic.
Now, if I was attacking DCP's Islam credentials, or Hamblin's history credentials, you might have a point. But I've never done that. I've left these guys' livelihoods alone.
You've attacked everything about them. I've read through your history here. You are evil, and you have the audacity to call apologists evil.
How do you know?
Unless you are