As something on page three is preventing my NetNanny from accessing the page (no doubt the work of Some Schmoe, PP, Paul, or some other such denizen of the Trailerpark, I am starting a new thread which leads off with my reply to MsJack that I could not post on the other thread.
Personally, I'm against icestt, not because it's too outrageous to be discussed---I'm against it for two main reasons, the first being because I believe it inevitably fosters coercive and abusive relationships. The vast majority of such relationships out there are not freely-chosen unions between consenting adults, they're coercive unions between an older parent, sibling, aunt or uncle and a younger child, sibling, niece or nephew. If icestt were offered the endorsement of the state through legalized marriage, I think these coercive and abusive relationships with minors would increase---and that, as soon as the minor turned 18, the older partner would attempt to solidify and legitimatize the union through marriage. Yes, the 18 year-old is now a consenting adult, but that doesn't mean they've developed the critical thinking capacities that are necessary to challenge the longstanding influence of the older partner.
Unfortunately, a lot of male homosexuals within the cruising culture and the "chicken" market disagree with you, as do many within the modern cult of eroticism (the pornography culture and industry).
Calvin Klein began mainstreaming underage eroticism a quarter of a century ago. Homosexuality, one among many kinds of "sexualities" and fetishes that broke out of the shadows and into a central place in the culture beginning in the late sixties. All of this is of a piece, as the gospel shows us.
My philosophy being, laws need to balance concern for human freedom with concerns for the welfare of the community at large.
In which case, based on both the mountain of social science data and historical evidence we have, homosexuality should be vigorously discouraged.
Some people certainly try to make similar arguments against gay marriage, arguing that homosexuality inevitably fosters wrong-doing.
It fosters further gender identity problems, as well as deep moral confusion, in any future generations growing up in that situation. That is, it encourages psycho-sexual dysfunction and and acceptance of an extremely risky and volatile lifestyle.
It has also encouraged the whole gay marriage movement, which is, despite common shibboleths to the contrary, a kulturkampf
against all traditional sexual norms whose purpose is the complete overturning and redefinition of the concepts of family and gender.
I simply think that these arguments suck
Great argument. I'm convinced.
I'm not like most of the other pro-gay-marriage people on this forum; I identify as a Republican and a conservative. I voted for Bush in 2000, Bush in 2004
I hope that I'm showing here that I'm not simply drawing arbitrary lines based on my own revulsion and disgust.
Maybe I'm wrong and Scottie is right and someday I'll be snarling to my grandchildren about how the incesters are taking over Hollywood, and they'll stare at me in horror and disgust at my close-mindedness.
Yes, we will