Droopy or Darth?Church Handbook of Instructions, Book 1, 1998
As I accept all the teachings, commandments and principles of the restored Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the historicity and divinity of the Book of Mormon, the authenticity of the prophetic mission and calling of Joseph Smith, and uphold as prophets, seers and revelators, the Brethren, it would seem logically contradictory to term me an apostate.
This term is normally reserved for those who have been in the Church and rejected the propositions I have mentioned above (as well as much else).
This would also include, at some level of commitment, those who uphold and support political ideologies and beliefs in contradiction to and in rebellion against the teachings of the gospel.
Oh, and as to Bill Mahr, I just confused Darth with Trevor for a moment. That happens sometimes. I was just retreading my Birkenstocks and lost track of the threads.
Section 10 (church discipline)
As used here, apostasy refers to members who:
1. Repeatedly act in clear, open, and deliberate public opposition to the Church or its
2. Persist in teaching as Church doctrine information that is not Church doctrine after
they have been corrected by their bishops or higher authority
3. Continue to follow the teachings of apostate sects (such as those that advocate plural
marriage) after being corrected by their bishop or higher authority.
In such cases, excommunication may be necessary if repentance is not evident after
counseling and encouragement.
Priesthood leaders must take disciplinary action against apostates to protect Church members.
The Savior taught the Nephites that they should continue to minister to a transgressor, but "if he
repent not he shall not be numbered among my people, that he may not destroy my people" (3
Nephi 18:31; see also Mosiah 26:36).
The official policy of the LDS Church is:
The Church does not
* Endorse, promote or oppose political parties, candidates or platforms
* Allow its church buildings, membership lists or other resources to be used for partisan political purposes.
* Attempt to direct its members as to which candidate or party they should give their votes to. This policy applies whether or not a candidate for office is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
* Attempt to direct or dictate to a government leader.
The Church does
* Encourage its members to play a role as responsible citizens in their communities, including becoming informed about issues and voting in elections.
* Expect its members to engage in the political process in an informed and civil manner, respecting the fact that members of the Church come from a variety of backgrounds and experiences and may have differences of opinion in partisan political matters
* Request candidates for office not to imply that their candidacy or platforms are endorsed by the Church.
* Reserve the right as an institution to address, in a nonpartisan way, issues that it believes have significant community or moral consequences or that directly affect the interests of the Church.http://www.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/publ ... neutrality
You have incessantly opposed Church policy in public by claiming that only people who agree with your political views---which you will never, ever, ever shut the **** up about---are fit and worthy to be real Mormons.
I have pointed this out to you many, many times because you will not **** shut up about politics on Mormon discussion boards. Your response invariably is to assume that I agree with the liberal/leftist groups or ideologies you won't shut up about and demand that I justify how someone can be a good Mormon and agree with these philosophies.
Since I don't belong to any of those philosophies, I don't have to justify it. People who do subscribe to any of those philosophies are the ones who must justify it, but to God, not to you. My first mission companion was from Bergamo, Italy, and was an active member of the communist party. He still is, and is very active in church there. How does he justify it? It's none of my business, nor of yours.
The Church has made it clear that it doesn't take sides in politics. You are apostate by contradicting church policy and demanding that some platforms cannot be part of a church member's political beliefs. The Church says it does not oppose any political beliefs and that its members come from many political points of view.
I don't **** care about politics, Droopy. I only care when the government is getting involved in my life. Then my politics is getting them out of my life.