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 Post subject: Overcoming Masturbation--Mark E. Petersen--Is this for real?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:12 pm 
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http://www.moonmac.com/Mormon_masturbation.html

I found this online and thought it was hilarious. Does anyone know if this is for real?

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 Post subject: Overcoming Mental Masturbation--James Bond--is this for real
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I found this online and thought it was hilarious. Does anyone know if this is for real?


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Oh, and after the successful completion of this program, go ahead... give yourself a hand!!


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Oh, and after the successful completion of this program, go ahead... give yourself a hand!!


Don't give those trying to control themselves any ideas.

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you know, im actualy legitimately suprised that Mormon inc hasent outwardly supported clitorectomy's or the like to suppress the urge to masturbate. Its just sad that they feel that its a sin or unhealthy. Though i can understand using it as a major item of guilt so as to keep people in line. Without controll mechanisms like this they would not be able to maintain thought controlling methodology nearly so well.

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 Post subject: Re: Overcoming Masturbation--Mark E. Petersen--Is this for r
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Bond...James Bond wrote:
http://www.moonmac.com/Mormon_masturbation.html

I found this online and thought it was hilarious. Does anyone know if this is for real?


Yes this is for real. I worked in the office for a few months of my mission (Santa Rosa, CA) back in 93 and this was a paper that the president would hand out to missionaries that had "the problem".


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 Post subject: Re: Overcoming Masturbation--Mark E. Petersen--Is this for r
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Bond...James Bond wrote:
http://www.moonmac.com/Mormon_masturbation.html

I found this online and thought it was hilarious. Does anyone know if this is for real?


I don't understand how tying your hand to a bed post would work. You still have another hand availalbe. The only way to tie both hands to the bed post would be to have your companion do it, but that leads to other potential problems.


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 Post subject: Re: Overcoming Masturbation--Mark E. Petersen--Is this for r
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Bond...James Bond wrote:
http://www.moonmac.com/Mormon_masturbation.html

I found this online and thought it was hilarious. Does anyone know if this is for real?


Did anyone here actually have to go through this program with their Mission President, or a Bishop? What was the process?


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These anti-masturbation devices have helped this man.
That is what Elder Peterson was getting at...


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 Post subject: Re: Overcoming Masturbation--Mark E. Petersen--Is this for r
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I don't understand how tying your hand to a bed post would work. You still have another hand availalbe. The only way to tie both hands to the bed post would be to have your companion do it, but that leads to other potential problems.


LOL. Here we some of my favorite suggestions:

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13. Arise immediately in the mornings. Do not lie in bed awake, no matter what time of day it is. Get up and do something. Start each day with an enthusiastic activity.


Like masturb......

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15. Reduce the amount of spices and condiments in your food. Eat as lightly as possible at night.


Because nothing gets you hot like extra paprika.

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20. Set up a reward system for your successes. It does not have to be a big reward. A quarter in a receptacle each time you overcome or reach a goal. Spend it on something which delights you and will be a continuing reminder of your progress.


Hookers?

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These anti-masturbation devices have helped this man.
That is what Elder Peterson was getting at...


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That's only step 1. Look at this poor Elder who progressed to step 2.

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 Post subject: Re: Overcoming Masturbation--Mark E. Petersen--Is this for r
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20. Set up a reward system for your successes. It does not have to be a big reward. A quarter in a receptacle each time you overcome or reach a goal. Spend it on something which delights you and will be a continuing reminder of your progress.


Hookers?



LOLOL!!!

I love you, Bond!

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 Post subject: Re: Overcoming Masturbation--Mark E. Petersen--Is this for r
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20. Set up a reward system for your successes. It does not have to be a big reward. A quarter in a receptacle each time you overcome or reach a goal. Spend it on something which delights you and will be a continuing reminder of your progress.

Hookers?


Save up quarters to buy hookers? Where are these missionaries serving? Tijuana?


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 Post subject: Re: Overcoming Masturbation--Mark E. Petersen--Is this for r
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20. Set up a reward system for your successes. It does not have to be a big reward. A quarter in a receptacle each time you overcome or reach a goal. Spend it on something which delights you and will be a continuing reminder of your progress.

Hookers?


Save up quarters to buy hookers? Where are these missionaries serving? Tijuana?


You've obviously never been to Singapore.

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LOL you people are killing me. I don't mean "you people" in any derogatory sense, either.

Seriously, does the church talk to people about masturbation?


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LOL you people are killing me. I don't mean "you people" in any derogatory sense, either.

Seriously, does the church talk to people about masturbation?


Does anyone have a link to the Packer speech on "little factories"?

Edit: I think this is the little factory speech.

http://www.lds-mormon.com/only.shtml

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I wish to explain something that will help you understand your young manhood and help you develop self-control. When this power begins to form, it might be likened to having a little factory in your body, one designed to produce the product that can generate life.

This little factory moves quietly into operation as a normal and expected pattern of growth and begins to produce the lifegiving substance. It will do so perhaps as long as you live. It works very slowly. That is the way it should be. For the most part, unless you tamper with it, you will hardly be aware that it is working at all.

As you move closer to manhood, this little factory will sometimes produce an oversupply of this substance. The Lord has provided a way for that to be released. It will happen without any help or without any resistance from you. Perhaps, one night you will have a dream. In the course of it the release valve that controls the factory will open and release all that is excess.

The factory and automatic release work on their own schedule. The Lord intended it to be that way. It is to regulate itself. This will not happen very often. You may go a longer period of time, and there will be no need for this to occur. When it does, you should not feel guilty. It is the nature of young manhood and is part of becoming a man.

There is; however, something you should not do. Sometimes a young man does not understand. Perhaps he is encouraged by unwise or unworthy companions to tamper with that factory. He might fondle himself and open that release valve. This you shouldn't do, for if you do that, the little factory will speed up. You will then be tempted again and again to release it. You can quickly be subjected to a habit, one that is not worthy, one that will leave you feeling depressed and feeling guilty. Resist that temptation. Do not be guilty of tampering or playing with this sacred power of creation. Keep it in reserve for the time when it can be righteously employed.

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LOL you people are killing me. I don't mean "you people" in any derogatory sense, either.

Seriously, does the church talk to people about masturbation?


Bishops commonly question teenagers, especially boys, about masturbation. So do Mission Presidents, if what others say is true actually happens.


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As you move closer to manhood, this little factory will sometimes produce an oversupply of this substance. The Lord has provided a way for that to be released. It will happen without any help or without any resistance from you. Perhaps, one night you will have a dream. In the course of it the release valve that controls the factory will open and release all that is excess.


This is contrary to what i was told by my last bishop. He said that you are held accountable for all thoughts, even those that occur during dreams.

The bad thing is, not everyone can have wet dreams. So for many guys, it just developes into a horrible case of blue-balls. Which might explain why people feel the need to get engaged after 3 months or less.

A while ago i found a report done by a psychologist about the damage being done, both physicaly and otherwise, by teachings like this. I mean c'mon. People have commited suicide over not being able to controll this natural response! I just wish we had a way of holding these people accountable for all the psychological anguish that they put people through on a daily basis with teachings such as these.

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Bishops commonly question teenagers, especially boys, about masturbation. So do Mission Presidents, if what others say is true actually happens.


When my Mission President would ask me if I had a problem with masturbation I would just reply, "Nope, It works every time!"


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harmony wrote:
Bishops commonly question teenagers, especially boys, about masturbation. So do Mission Presidents, if what others say is true actually happens.


When my Mission President would ask me if I had a problem with masturbation I would just reply, "Nope, It works every time!"


you remind me of something i read off RFM that i think is too funny not to share

http://www.exmormon.org/boards/w-agora/ ... 1171943644
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I actually got asked this question once, when I decided I was gonna actually make a stab at being a good lil Mormon girl. The bishop interviewing me at the time unfortunately decided to ask this question after talking to me like a 5-year old all the way through the interview, so my patience was shot all to hell.

"Do you have problems with being tempted by pornography or illicit sex?"

"Nope. No problem with it at all - in fact, I love it, cause that means my night is about to get better."

*LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG pause*

"Would you care to clarify?"

"Oh, my boyfriend and I sleep together all the time. Is it considered pornography if it's you in the video?"

He just stared at me.

"Yeah, I think we're done here." I got up and left, and that was that. :)

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