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 Post subject: Does Mitt Romney really believe in the Gospel?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:40 am 
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In a statement posted on Twitter on Thursday night, Romney described Soleimani as a “depraved terrorist who had the blood of hundreds of American servicemen and women on his hands, and who was doubtlessly planning operations to further harm our citizens and allies.”

“We remember and honor the sacrifice of those servicemen and women, and we commend our brave troops and intel officers who carried out this successful mission,” Romney said in his statement. “At this time of increased tension in the region, the U.S. must take necessary steps to protect our personnel there and beyond.”

The Utah senator is the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Near East, South Asia, Central Asia and Counterterrorism, which deals with U.S. relations with countries in the Middle East.

Utah’s only Democrat in Congress, Rep. Ben McAdams, said no one is mourning the death of Soleimani.

“I think I feel the same sense of outrage that we all do and certainly he deserved consequences,” he said on KSL Newsradio.

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/1/2/2 ... rtis-trump

Mormonism supposedly transcends the arbitrarily drawn boundaries of man-made communities and populations. So does Mormon Mitt Romney really carry the courage of his convictions? Where does he stand on:

“Thou shalt not kill”.
“Love thy neighbour as thyself”.
And “Turn the other cheek”.

There’s is clearly a conflict of conscience between being a politician within a warmongering government, and being a Latter-day Saint.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:53 am 
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The ten commandmets translated properly is, "Thou shalt not murder."

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The ten commandmets translated properly is, "Thou shalt not murder."

Phew. It didn't say 'assassinate', either. Saved by the loopholes! What other fun loophole games can we play? I wonder how we can cram ethnic WASP racism into context, too! Ajax, why don't you fire up your Maxine Waters persona again, you wonderful example of Latter-day Saint refinement.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:31 am 
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
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The ten commandmets translated properly is, "Thou shalt not murder."

Phew. It didn't say 'assassinate', either. Saved by the loopholes! What other fun loophole games can we play? I wonder how we can cram ethnic WASP racism into context, too! Ajax, why don't you fire up your Maxine Waters persona again, you wonderful example of Latter-day Saint refinement.

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Docs got it all figured out everyone. Shut your bibles.

Im sure he keeps ever proscription he would demand you keep as well. He has never lusted after a woman not his wife. He gave all his money to the poor and follows Christ as a wandering mendicant. He of course is an extreme pacifist.

You see every other christian throughout history has been wrong. Docs interpretation of the bible is the divine truth!

The bible means whatever you want it to. that's why aquinuses philosohy, which has immemorilzed his name, was the just war doctrine, and righteous indignation.

Captain Moroni was a warrior! As were most Mormon prophets! Yet somehow “thou shalt not kill” made these men “whom if all men were like the very gates of hell would tremble” sinners because doc says so.

Ajax was 100% right. So was Mittens.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:48 am 
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I have a question wrote:
Mormonism supposedly transcends the arbitrarily drawn boundaries of man-made communities and populations. So does Mormon Mitt Romney really carry the courage of his convictions? Where does he stand on:

“Thou shalt not kill”.
“Love thy neighbour as thyself”.
And “Turn the other cheek”.

There’s is clearly a conflict of conscience between being a politician within a warmongering government, and being a Latter-day Saint.

You have to understand: religion is philosophical play-doh. Nobody actually shapes their lives according to their religion; they shape their religion to fit their lives. It's culturally accepted ____ lazy people use.

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Perfume on my Mind wrote:
I have a question wrote:
Mormonism supposedly transcends the arbitrarily drawn boundaries of man-made communities and populations. So does Mormon Mitt Romney really carry the courage of his convictions? Where does he stand on:
“Thou shalt not kill”.
“Love thy neighbour as thyself”.
And “Turn the other cheek”.

There’s is clearly a conflict of conscience between being a politician within a warmongering government, and being a Latter-day Saint.

You have to understand: religion is philosophical play-doh. Nobody actually shapes their lives according to their religion; they shape their religion to fit their lives. It's culturally accepted ____ lazy people use.

I was duped when i was younger into that kind of thinking i watched the hollywood portrayals of Christ, and read the Mormon prophets some of whom were exteme pacifists.

One urged his daughters to die rather than allow themselves to be raped. Another said his son was spared from war because of the righteousness of the saints even though he had been conscripted he never saw battle. Even joseph smith said any spirit that lusts after blood isn't of god.

But then i read pope pious urging for the crusade! You know what he said? 1,000 of christians are being killed at the hands of mohomadan incursions. What does it mean to love your neighbor if not to stop these horrific attacks and return christian peace!

And at some point i realized i was the only idiot trying to “live my religion” and that it really means whatver your conciounce will allow it to mean.

Most of these “arbiters of the law” didn't live up to half of what they demanded we bear.

And the worst were the antis who hold the worst double standards. They hold your feet to the fire as a christian with their overly onerous interpretations then hypocritcally say “I would never follow any of that stupid nonsense!”

Mathew 23.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:42 am 
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Perfume on my Mind wrote:
You have to understand: religion is philosophical play-doh. Nobody actually shapes their lives according to their religion; they shape their religion to fit their lives. It's culturally accepted ____ lazy people use.

Yup.

But the play-doh approach is only applied when deciding questions that affect their own lives: "Well, so long as I pay a tithe on the kick-back I got for approving that building even though it didn't pass fire safety regulations, my bishop will still give me a temple recommend. So that's OK with The Lord."

When it's a question of deciding what other people should be made to do, the play-doh suddenly sets into steel-reinforced concrete: "If you have a miscarriage, you'll go to jail for murdering an embryo. That's The Lord's way!"

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Captain Moroni was a warrior!

#DezNat

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Chap wrote:
Perfume on my Mind wrote:
You have to understand: religion is philosophical play-doh. Nobody actually shapes their lives according to their religion; they shape their religion to fit their lives. It's culturally accepted ____ lazy people use.

Yup.

But the play-doh approach is only applied when deciding questions that affect their own lives: "Well, so long as I pay a tithe on the kick-back I got for approving that building even though it didn't pass fire safety regulations, my bishop will still give me a temple recommend. So that's OK with The Lord."

When it's a question of deciding what other people should be made to do, the play-doh suddenly sets into steel-reinforced concrete: "If you have a miscarriage, you'll go to jail for murdering an embryo. That's The Lord's way!"

Heh. No doubt.

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I was duped when i was younger into that kind of thinking i watched the hollywood portrayals of Christ, and read the Mormon prophets some of whom were exteme pacifists.

You're a liar. It's what you think now that you were duped into (assuming the nonsense you've been posting is what you really think).

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:10 pm 
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ajax18 wrote:
The ten commandmets translated properly is, "Thou shalt not murder."


So how do you translate "Turn the other cheek”.?


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DoubtingThomas wrote:
ajax18 wrote:
The ten commandmets translated properly is, "Thou shalt not murder."


So how do you translate "Turn the other cheek”.?


Arthur C Clarke was right. Christianity died the moment Luther nailed up his 99 thesis. Lay people are not capable or qualified to interperet scripture.


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It's kind of like asking if George Soros really believes the 1% should pay higher taxes than they do now. If so, why does he have to wait for legislation to be enacted to pay higher taxes?

Or one could ask if the Hollywood elites really believe that man made global warming is an urgent crisis. If so, why do they continue to contribute so heavily to the carbon footprint via air travel, owning SUVs etc.?

One could say they just don't practice what they preach. But I think it's more a case of saying one thing but secretly believing another.

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It's kind of like asking if George Soros really believes the 1% should pay higher taxes than they do now. If so, why does he have to wait for legislation to be enacted to pay higher taxes?

Or one could ask if the Hollywood elites really believe that man made global warming is an urgent crisis. If so, why do they continue to contribute so heavily to the carbon footprint via air travel, owning SUVs etc.?

One could say they just don't practice what they preach. But I think it's more a case of saying one thing but secretly believing another.
If you believed this terrible argument consistently, you’d be turning down all the government services you think should not exist. You aren’t, though. You happily partake of services you think should not be. You’re dimly aware that this is a sophomoric understanding of whether reformists are hypocrites.


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I can’t tell you how many times I’ve pointed out to our racist White separatist that if he really believed this ____ he spews he’d trade in precious metals for goods and services. He’s such a ____ garbage piece of ____ who hates our federal government so much he accepts its medicaid and medicare, on federal notes, and all the other associated benefits of social services, programs, and everything in between when it all really boils down to a thinly veiled distaste for non-WASPs. This absolute ____ piece of garbage posts this ____ about Libs being hypocritical when he himself is so mired in hypocrisy he could never unsuckle from the government’s teat, the very government he hates so much, because it has the audacity to be pluralistic.

I don’t know in what world he thinks living in a ‘separate but equal’ NatSoc state in the Appalachia would be amazeballs, but here we are. The level of abject retardery it takes to not only entertain that more for than a few moments, but actually traipse around the Internet with the handle AJAX-14-88 and act like he’s anything but a racist is so beyond dense he’s almost at risk of becoming a singularity.

But. Whatever. Here we are. We interact with a guy who hopes for a rahowa and the dissolution of the country that feeds and protects him. Go figure.

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ajax reminds me of the scene in Godfather 3 when the cardinal is telling Don Corleone that even though rocks have been in the water for centuries, they are still dry on the inside.

Like the water with the stone, facts, logic and common sense cannot penetrate ajax's thick skull. He's happy living in his dishonestly constructed world. He's the poster child for willful ignorance, and tbh, I'm not sure he's smart enough to recognize his own hypocrisy (a hypocrisy obvious to everyone else).

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It's kind of like asking if George Soros really believes the 1% should pay higher taxes than they do now. If so, why does he have to wait for legislation to be enacted to pay higher taxes?

Careful. Someone might think that you’ve been trying too hard to dodge reality in the midst of regurgitating right-wing talking points, because you missed the part where Soros donates piles of cash to support the sorts of things that you would object to being taxed to support.

From 2017:

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George Soros just gave most of his wealth to his charitable organization, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday.

The billionaire philanthropist transferred $18 billion to Open Society Foundations, a sprawling international group of charities that works in more than 100 countries on projects focused on refugee relief, public health and many other topics.

The $18 billion figure amounts to almost 80 percent of the financier's total net worth. Before the transfer, Soros had a net worth of $23 billion, according to a Forbes tally Tuesday. The site ranks him as the 29th wealthiest person in the world.

The donation catapulted Open Society Foundations to the front ranks of American charities based on total assets, the Journal reported, citing 2014 data. The only American charity larger than Open Society, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, is also funded by a famous billionaire.

Soros began his charitable giving in 1979, nine years after launching Soros Fund Management, the hedge fund that would propel him into America's ultrawealthy. He has given away $12 billion in the four decades since, according to his official biography, available on his website.

His first charitable work involved providing black South Africans with scholarships during the country's apartheid. During the Cold War, he provided photocopiers to people living in eastern Europe in order to reprint texts banned by communist governments. He has also underwritten the largest effort to integrate Europe's Roma, according to the biography available on his website.

Soros and the Open Society Foundations did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


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Canpakes,

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George Soros just gave most of his wealth to his charitable organization, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday.

The billionaire philanthropist transferred $18 billion to Open Society Foundations,...

Open Society...founded by George Soros and the chairman is George Soros.
Seems like a legit transfer....proceed with your defense there cannypakesy.

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From 2017:

“George Soros just gave most of his wealth to his charitable organization, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday.

The billionaire philanthropist transferred $18 billion to Open Society Foundations,...”

Open Society...founded by George Soros and the chairman is George Soros.
Seems like a legit transfer....proceed with your defense there cannypakesy.

I’m not seeing that a defense of anything is necessary, given that no accusations have been leveled by you.

Maybe you are just unaware of how these things typically work. See the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for a similar approach.


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