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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Not that any Trump supporters on this forum really care about Lev Parnas, but I feel like maybe it'd be helpful for them to understand who he is. Before I do that I'll just caveat with this:

This, once again, confirms my suspicion that Ajax and the other turbo-brainlets really don't read much if a post goes beyond a few sentences. There has been ample posts detailing the reasons why Trump, and by extension the GOP, is a problem for a host of reasons.


Lev Parnas works for two people.

#1 - Rudy Giuliani on behalf of President Trump

#2 - Pro-Russian Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash who is detained in Vienna fighting extradition to the US on bribery and racketeering charges

Here's the Wiki article on this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmytro_Fi ... ne_scandal

It should be noted that Parnas tried to flee to... Vienna, Austria to avoid prosecution for all sorts of stuff related to Trump and the GOP. I'm not going to bother breaking that out because ain't no one gonna read that ____ anyway. It should be noted that Rudy Giuliani was attempting to get out of Dodge and was en route to... you guessed it, Vienna, Austria.

Anywhey.

- President Trump removed Amb. Yovanovitch from her post following complaints from Giuliani and his associates. <- That would be Parnas and Firtash, by the way.

- GOP Cong. Sessions attacked Amb. Yovanovitch through conservative media outlets. Did you Sessions was being funded by Giuliani's associates Parnas and Fruman with money funneled to them by Firtash? Anyone seeing the picture, yet?

- Trump, Giuliani and his associates pressured the Ukrainian government to discredit Russian election interference. Firtash's hands are all over this, and it's presumed Russia's hands are all over him.

- Trump pressured the Ukrainian President, what's his nuts, to publicly announce a fabricated investigation into Trump's domestic political rival on CNN.

These are facts, man. You can either understand why this is important, and why Trump must be removed from office, or you can just get comfortable with the dissolution of our democracy.

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what a crock...but for you on Biden's son - "nothing to see here, democracy is aok!"
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subgenius wrote:what a crock...but for you on Biden's son - "nothing to see here, democracy is aok!"

So you didn't read CamNC4Me's post.
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subgenius wrote:what a crock...but for you on Biden's son - "nothing to see here, democracy is aok!"


The argument against Hunter Biden is precisely the kind of thing you would jump to defend if the tables were turned.

I mean really, what evidence is there of wrong doing? Inquiring minds really want to know. From all I've seen, the entire criticism rests on supposition and innuendo.

And if Trump was so upset about this, then he's had 3 years to investigate him. So why hasn't he? The fact is he only pressed to have Ukraine "announce" they were going to investigate once polls started coming in showing that Joe Biden would beat him in the election.

And Hunter Biden could be guilty of whatever he's being accused of but that still doesn't change the fact that Trump broke the law with this quid pro quo, which in fact virtually everyone who has testified under oath has corroborated the whistle blower's claim. The only people saying otherwise are those who refuse to testify under oath but instead run to FOX News, because that where truth dies.

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A link to my ‘Who is Lev Parnas?’ post:

viewtopic.php?p=1212371#p1212371

In more unshocking new, Devin Nunes who’s been running interference for Trump since day 1 is unsurprisingly familiar with Parnas despite pretending to not know who he was:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/politics ... index.html

When the House was considering impeachment charges against Trump last year, Nunes was among the most visible Republicans defending the President, often repeating conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated claims about Biden's dealings in Ukraine and foreign interference in the 2016 US election. CNN has reported that the US intelligence community believes that some of the theories Nunes endorsed, especially that the Ukrainian government meddled in the 2016 election, originated from Russian operatives as part of an orchestrated disinformation campaign.


Parnas and Igor Furman gave $111,000 to the Republican ‘Protect the House’ PAC. They’re going down for illegally funneling foreign monies to the GOP.

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Icarus wrote:And Hunter Biden could be guilty of whatever he's being accused of but that still doesn't change the fact that Trump broke the law with this quid pro quo, which in fact virtually everyone who has testified under oath has corroborated the whistle blower's claim. The only people saying otherwise are those who refuse to testify under oath but instead run to FOX News, because that where truth dies.

All very important and telling points. Even if Hunter Biden were guilty of what he's being accused of, that does not diminish Trump's guilt in the slightest. The infantility of trying defend Trump by implicating wrongdoing, whether real imagined, by the son of Trump's most feared opponent cannot be over emphasized.

The fact that virtually everyone who has testified under oath has corroborated the whistle blower's claim, while the only people saying otherwise refuse to testify under oath is hugely damaging to Trump's case, whether anyone wants to admit that or not.

It is maddening that Republican Senate leaders are openly trying to rig the trial so that Trump gets acquitted, no matter what the evidence. Their audacity in hardly even trying to pretend otherwise is breathtakingly scandalous!
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Oh look:

https://judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfil ... hments.pdf

This just further proves his innocence and demonstrates it all a crazy conspiracy theory, though, as no one would actually leave such damning information to be discovered.

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EAllusion wrote:Oh look:

https://judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfil ... hments.pdf

This just further proves his innocence and demonstrates it all a crazy conspiracy theory, though, as no one would actually leave such damning information to be discovered.


Doesn't matter because Trump has no idea who Lev Parnas is.

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His sons have no idea who he is either:

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Nor does his ex-wife Ivana:

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And apparently Devin Nunes has no earthly clue who he could be, despite having several phone calls with him lasting up to 8 minutes according to phone records that were obviously fabricated by the Deep State.

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When Giuliani starts rolling around in a wheelchair and breathing out of an oxygen tank we'll know everything has finally come full circle.

And then Scorsese will make one more film before retiring for good.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:When Giuliani starts rolling around in a wheelchair and breathing out of an oxygen tank we'll know everything has finally come full circle.

And then Scorsese will make one more film before retiring for good.

- Doc


Oh you just know there is going to be a movie about this. But there is no way to do it justice without it being an ongoing series like Game of Thrones.

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For a translation of the Lev Parnas documents dump:

https://twitter.com/JoshKovensky/status ... lev-parnas

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Wonder how effective Moscow Mitch will be in rigging the trial to keep any evidence from being presented?
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The people who see shadowy conspiracies among scientists to convince the world that the Earth isn't flat don't see any connections here.
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When Trump dies his children will have to live with the shame that their father was impeached. I wonder if Barron's schoolmates tease him about his dad and Stormy Daniels.
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aussieguy55 wrote: I wonder if Barron's schoolmates tease him about his dad and Stormy Daniels.

That is really mean.
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moksha wrote:
aussieguy55 wrote: I wonder if Barron's schoolmates tease him about his dad and Stormy Daniels.


That is really mean.


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Republicans want to ask for a quick acquittal so Trump does not have to take a break in committing crimes.
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It is tragic and outrageous how many of them unabashedly admit that they are hell bent on acquitting Trump while refusing to consider the evidence, or even permit witnesses to be called to present it. It seems that Trump's primary prerequisite for any one working for him is willingness to break the law and/or violate their oath of office at Trump's behest. Those Senators who have already openly declared they are not going to be impartial (like McConnell and Graham) blatantly committed perjury, when they subsequently vowed, under oath, that they would be impartial jurors in the impeachment trial. If this sets a precedent for future behavior of government official, democracy is effectively doomed in this country. We will have effectively become despotism or kingdom, instead of a republic.
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aussieguy55 wrote:When Trump dies his children will have to live with the shame that their father was impeached. I wonder if Barron's schoolmates tease him about his dad and Stormy Daniels.

do you really imagine teenage boys consider a tryst with a porn star to be a badge of shame?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:k

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moksha wrote:
subgenius wrote:what a crock...but for you on Biden's son - "nothing to see here, democracy is aok!"

So you didn't read CamNC4Me's post.

naw i read it and then dismissed it has yet another under the tin foil hat hair fire.
Its got no legs man. And the leap of faith at the end...geez...omg, democracy is dying...we are all dying...the end of the world is nigh...because Trump!!!

You guys are getting less and less water; more and more sand with all the trips you are making to the Trump Armageddon well.

Look! nuclear destruction from North Korea!!aaarrrrghh!
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