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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:46 pm 
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Chap is only suggesting images that aren’t overly complimentary of Jews, for which a disproportionate amount are anti-Mormons, be banned on an Ex-Mormon message board that once touted itself as the safe harbor of free speech and a refuge for those unjustly censored by the MAD board.

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Please shut down discussion that might reflect poorly on Jews, Dr.Shades.

It is worse than pornography.

By the way, I steal from my employer.

The issue isn't discussion. It's images. And I agree with chap's suggestion that they belong in the spirit prison forum.

They seem pretty off-topic, anyway, given that our unhappy neo-Nazi only has one focus. ; )


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:27 pm 
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What is on topic is that this ironically titled thread ended up illustrating why free speech as a right does not exists in democracies, and today on Thanksgiving I am thankful that America is a Republic.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Long live the Republic!

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Dr. Shades,

I agree with the others. The images are a real problem. While I don't think the perp will stick around long enough to be a concern, you might get our site flagged as a hate site if he proves me wrong.

I could potentially be sympathetic to the images as free speech under certain conditions that aren't presently being met. First, for some of the images, neither the author of the image nor the party posting the images here actually believes in what the images portray, and wouldn't (and has not!!!) waste (ed) five sentences even pretending to defend the content of the images. Thus, given (some of) the images are over-the-top racist and violence oriented, without any corresponding commentary (note that "some of" captures two conditions), and given this is an ideas-related board, the images should not be allowed.

Appealing directly to your own code of conduct: if a mere link to any mundane article out there without an explanation is against the rules of the board, how much more so is a highly racist and offensive image posted as an "image and run" with no corresponding commentary, or perhaps with bare minimum commentary that isn't fully comprehensible?

The appeal to free speech can't rationally be made absent any context whatsoever. In California, prostitution in certain conditions has been justified under "free speech" and the same goes elsewhere for pornography. But just because in certain contexts, the outskirts of consensual sexuality are justified by free speech as a part of national tolerance, that doesn't mean overt sexual material is a good fit for this board. Likewise, random racist images also are not a good fit for this board, even less so, even if we may allow for it under free speech as a nation at other venues such as 4chan.

You don't even like emoticons. Think about it: some of these huge images that make it hard to scroll through the thread and are liable to put the site on hate-watch are being used as giant "frownies".

If our resident NS perp were to drastically slow down on the image content, and along with the image, post comprehensible material that made sense of the image, I might be persuaded to allow some of it on account that this is a board open to all ideas, even ideas that are reprehensible. But very little idea content that explains the giant frownies is being had at this point.

Even 4chan douses free speech that doesn't fit with its culture, as anybody would know who has viewed that one documentary about 4chan on youtube.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:45 pm 
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Dr. Shades,

I agree with the others. The images are a real problem. While I don't think the perp will stick around long enough to be a concern, you might get our site flagged as a hate site if he proves me wrong.

I could potentially be sympathetic to the images as free speech under certain conditions that aren't presently being met. First, for some of the images, neither the author of the image nor the party posting the images here actually believes in what the images portray, and wouldn't (and has not!!!) waste (ed) five sentences even pretending to defend the content of the images. Thus, given (some of) the images are over-the-top racist and violence oriented, without any corresponding commentary (note that "some of" captures two conditions), and given this is an ideas-related board, the images should not be allowed.

Appealing directly to your own code of conduct: if a mere link to any mundane article out there without an explanation is against the rules of the board, how much more so is a highly racist and offensive image posted as an "image and run" with no corresponding commentary, or perhaps with bare minimum commentary that isn't fully comprehensible?

The appeal to free speech can't rationally be made absent any context whatsoever. In California, prostitution in certain conditions has been justified under "free speech" and the same goes elsewhere for pornography. But just because in certain contexts, the outskirts of consensual sexuality are justified by free speech as a part of national tolerance, that doesn't mean overt sexual material is a good fit for this board. Likewise, random racist images also are not a good fit for this board, even less so, even if we may allow for it under free speech as a nation at other venues such as 4chan.

You don't even like emoticons. Think about it: some of these huge images that make it hard to scroll through the thread and are liable to put the site on hate-watch are being used as giant "frownies".

If our resident NS perp were to drastically slow down on the image content, and along with the image, post comprehensible material that made sense of the image, I might be persuaded to allow some of it on account that this is a board open to all ideas, even ideas that are reprehensible. But very little idea content that explains the giant frownies is being had at this point.

Even 4chan douses free speech that doesn't fit with its culture, as anybody would know who has viewed that one documentary about 4chan on youtube.


Imagine being so triggered by being named you write this much text on Thanksgiving petitioning a message board that comments negatively on Mormons to ban negative comments about Jews.

Our site might get flagged as a hate site!!!!

LOL!!!!

Oh my god, my sides are in ORBIT!

I can’t stop laughing at this post. Christmas has come early this year, indeed.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:07 pm 
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Good points have been made.

[MODERATOR NOTE: Smokey, from this point forward, please post any of the hook-nosed Jewish memetic images in the Spirit Prison Forum only. Any posts or images that contain only words can remain here, however. This is because I don't want ANYONE to be at risk for being fired simply because they innocently scrolled into an image that someone else posted.]

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Thanks.




So one cannot post certain images but one can display a huge sign describing an image in the most vulgar language imaginable. Is this what you're saying?


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I don't mean to minimize the difficulty in refereeing this, Shades. It's your board and though I sometimes disagree, I think you try to be fair. I mean it when I say thanks.


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Sure thing, Dr. Shades. Let’s all remember Thanksgiving 2019 as the day the free speech Ex-Mormon board successfully strong armed the Libertarian site owner into censoring posts critical of Jews.

By the way, do you ever wonder why the “hook-nose” meme creates such a panic among Jews?

Hint: it has to do with Neanderthal DNA and a secret war that’s been going on for 70,000 years: Why Do Neanderthals Have Such Big Noses?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:28 am 
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I don't mean to minimize the difficulty in refereeing this, Shades. It's your board and though I sometimes disagree, I think you try to be fair. I mean it when I say thanks.


I think most sane members of the board feel the same way. Thanks, Shades.

Smokey however responds immediately by posting a meme showing a monstrous face with text that says 'Have you ever seen a Jew without his civilised face on?'.

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Sure thing, Dr. Shades. Let’s all remember Thanksgiving 2019 as the day the free speech Ex-Mormon board successfully strong armed the Libertarian site owner into censoring posts critical of Jews.

How not surprising that you're another whiny snowflake who thinks that the world owes him their resources to push his own agenda.

You could start your own board. If you're too lazy to do that, don't complain that you're being oppressed because someone else doesn't care to let you crap all over their own work.

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Hint: it has to do with Neanderthal DNA ...

You like to believe that you're so very woke, but you might consider that you're a bit behind most others in your learning curve on Neanderthal DNA. But that's not surprising given what you think you know about the origin of North American peoples.


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So one cannot post certain images but one can display a huge sign describing an image in the most vulgar language imaginable. Is this what you're saying?

No. If the vulgar language contains the "F" or "S" words, then it too may only be posted in the Spirit Prison forum. . . just like always.

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Let’s all remember Thanksgiving 2019 as the day the free speech Ex-Mormon board successfully strong armed the Libertarian site owner into censoring posts critical of Jews.

I'm not censoring POSTS critical of Jews. I am administratively reclassifying to a different forum an IMAGE that could conceivably get someone fired from work. This way, people can select their own risk level based on whether they're surfing the site during their lunch break or surfing it at home.

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So one cannot post certain images but one can display a huge sign describing an image in the most vulgar language imaginable. Is this what you're saying?


I’m don’t think you meant it this way, but just in case you or someone else thought you were referring to the images of an old avatar that I posted on the previous page, i have removed those, to remain fully in keeping with the spirit of Dr. Shades’ ruling:

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...Any posts or images that contain only words can remain here, however. This is because I don't want ANYONE to be at risk for being fired simply because they innocently scrolled into an image that someone else posted.]


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https://apnews.com/25e2f36b05b5eb2ad6c050493f195202

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George Buck, one of six Republican primary candidates for Florida’s 13th Congressional District, referred to several Democrats but in particular to Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, D-Minnesota. Omar was born in Somalia and came to the U.S. as a child.

In the recent letter to potential donors, he said that “we should hang” Omar and other “traitors” for “abusing our system to destroy our country.” He mentioned “tinfoil hat accusations” against President Donald Trump, but didn’t elaborate.


I wonder why he felt comfortable enough to, you know, publicly state that in his district. Weird, huh?

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https://apnews.com/25e2f36b05b5eb2ad6c050493f195202

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George Buck, one of six Republican primary candidates for Florida’s 13th Congressional District, referred to several Democrats but in particular to Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, D-Minnesota. Omar was born in Somalia and came to the U.S. as a child.

In the recent letter to potential donors, he said that “we should hang” Omar and other “traitors” for “abusing our system to destroy our country.” He mentioned “tinfoil hat accusations” against President Donald Trump, but didn’t elaborate.


I wonder why he felt comfortable enough to, you know, publicly state that in his district. Weird, huh?

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probably for same reason these people felt comfortable?
:lol: Madonna – “I’ve thought a lot about blowing up the White House.”
:lol: Snoop Dogg “Shoots” Trump in the Head in Music Video
:lol: Mickey Rourke Threatens to Beat Trump with Baseball Bat: “He Can Suck My F*cking D*ck”
:lol: Actress Lea DeLaria Threatens to ‘Take Out’ Republicans and Independents with Baseball Bat after Trump Win
:lol: Larry Wilmore Jokes About Suffocating Trump with ‘Pillow They Used to Kill Scalia’
:lol: Kathy Griffin
:lol: FBI agents arrested a Tucson Unified School District employee for making violent threats against Arizona Rep. Martha McSally. Agents said 58-year-old Steve Martan left threatening voicemails for McSally, telling the Republican congresswoman that her days were "numbered."
:lol: police in Tennessee charged 35-year-old Wendi Wright with felony reckless endangerment for allegedly trying to run Republican Congressman David Kustoff off the road after a town hall he held regarding the GOP health care bill
:lol: A Nebraska Democratic Party official found himself in hot water only days after Republican Congressman Steve Scalise was shot. An audio recording was posted on YouTube Thursday with Phil Montag, a technology chairman, voicing how glad he was that House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., got shot last week at a GOP baseball practice
:lol: Congresswoman Maxine Waters (CA) called on her supporters to go after anyone in Trump’s cabinet or inner circle
:lol: “Michelle [Obama] always says ‘When they go low, we go high,'” Holder told the crowd. “No. No. When they go low, we kick them…”


but yeah, hair fire du jour

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Wow, subgenius triggered (also, at least I have hair you [personal information deleted])? Color me shocked. That said, how many of his celebs were running for Congress and were talking to their constituents?

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Wow, subgenius triggered (also, at least I have hair you [personal information deleted])? Color me shocked. That said, how many of his celebs were running for Congress and were talking to their constituents?

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Just for fun, I looked up the old thread about the Kathy Griffin thing.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=46221&hilit=kathy+griffin

The liberals of this site that commented almost universally condemned what she did and nobody was shallow or triggered enough to try to "whatabout" her tasteless stunt. On top of that, didn't the "librul elites" in hollywood fire her and essentially blacklist her from working (cnn fired her, tour venues cancelled her shows, politicians returned her money, etc.)? I swear, sid the subfaps is losing what few brain cells he has as fast as he is [personal information deleted]...

That said, of course our resident, barely coherent assclown, sid the subfaps immediately comes along to try to "whatabout" a racists alt-right politicians efforts to encourage racial violence against another politician. Im guessing his constituents (and bigots like subfaps) like him even more for vomiting out racist calls to violence against people they don't agree with. Just look at the orange ____ they worship and his conspiracy addled calls for violence against people that don't blindly fawn over his insecure fat ass. It would seem hypocrisy is a staple of blindly obedient (Mormon) trumpsters.

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Chair of the Republican Party - All Democrats must die. It's time to do your part. Paint the streets red with blood. Helter Skelter!

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Wow, subgenius triggered ....

If proving your claim of "weird" as being actually normal and bipartisan behavior is "triggered" then you are not that informed on contemporary slang.
But hey, keep those fires burning

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Jeez, I wasn't even talking to you, you poor, insecure, barely incoherent lemming...Its ok, I don't mind that you need to project your failures on me - you seem to really need to focus on the fact that I travel for a living. don't worry big guy, maybe one day you will find your way out of the ____ holler you are stuck in...

That said, this doesn't change the fact that you are mindless hypocrite who has nothing to add beyond "whatabout!?!?".

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