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 Post subject: Re: Trump's Most Inhumane Act Yet?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:41 am 
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As far as crimes go, staying in the US without authorization is about as harmless as jaywalking if not less so,


Maybe for those who don't pay taxes.


Undocumented immigrants ultimately are a net-contributor to the tax base, so that's actually a inadvertent benefit to them? Remember how you run away whenever legitimate research on the economic impacts of immigration, legal and otherwise, is brought up? Sometimes you'll just assert you don't believe it before ghosting and sometimes just say nothing at all. Try to remember what you are running away from, though.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:18 am 
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Illegal immigration is no more a victimless crime than women who choose to have children they cannot afford or would rather someone else provided for.

Uh, what?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:24 am 
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honorentheos wrote:
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Illegal immigration is no more a victimless crime than women who choose to have children they cannot afford or would rather someone else provided for.

Uh, what?


He thinks that poor women having children ought to be a criminal offense.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:39 am 
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So since it isn't one now, is he going to reframe his point or stand by it as stated?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:39 am 
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honorentheos wrote:
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Illegal immigration is no more a victimless crime than women who choose to have children they cannot afford or would rather someone else provided for.

Uh, what?

EAllusion wrote:
He thinks that poor women having children ought to be a criminal offense.


Isn’t that how we got Jesus?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:58 am 
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EAllusion wrote:
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Uh, what?


He thinks that poor women having children ought to be a criminal offense.


I take it as paying for other people’s choices a la wic, welfare, section 8, is stealing.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:00 pm 
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
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He thinks that poor women having children ought to be a criminal offense.


I take it as paying for other people’s choices a la wic, welfare, section 8, is stealing.

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It's a position he's expressed before. He thinks in a society where welfare* exists, it ought to be illegal to have children if that qualifies you or them to access welfare. You have to remember this is a dude who thinks the elderly should be put into forced labor camps if they don't have a job. He has, um, unorthodox views.

*Welfare is narrowly defined to refer to the types of welfare he dislikes, but not the kind he likes.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:35 am 
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As if this were not already outrageous enough, many of the people threatened by this inhumane deportation order were not even here illegally. Isabel Bueso, for example, was invited here for the expressed purpose of researching a treatment or cure for the rare disease she has.

Deportation Threatens Life Of Immigrant Who Helped FDA Research | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:23 am 
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None of Trump supporters' opinions surprise me anymore. If you are dumb enough to think Trump is a good President, you're dumb enough to defend his positions. You revel in ignorance. You drape yourselves in stupidity and wear it proudly. You are suspicious of education and have no clue about the real sources of your distress. And you are willing to lie in service of your vast ignorance, which you have no intention of shrinking.

Hence, ajax.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:30 pm 
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Perfume on my Mind wrote:
None of Trump supporters' opinions surprise me anymore. If you are dumb enough to think Trump is a good President, you're dumb enough to defend his positions. You revel in ignorance. You drape yourselves in stupidity and wear it proudly. You are suspicious of education and have no clue about the real sources of your distress. And you are willing to lie in service of your vast ignorance, which you have no intention of shrinking.

Hence, ajax.

and yet literally, sans hair-fire, your life and work have not gitten worse but have actually gotten better.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
If anyone is poor among your fellow Israelites in any of the towns of the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward them. Rather, be openhanded and freely lend them whatever they need.

— Deuteronomy 15:7-8

Are you suggesting a government policy here?

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If anyone is poor among your fellow Israelites in any of the towns of the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward them. Rather, be openhanded and freely lend them whatever they need.

— Deuteronomy 15:7-8

Are you suggesting a government policy here?


Nah. It's just what God said. I mean, like, God is just this guy, right? You can take it or leave it. You don't have to pay him no heed.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
If anyone is poor among your fellow Israelites in any of the towns of the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward them. Rather, be openhanded and freely lend them whatever they need.

— Deuteronomy 15:7-8

Are you suggesting a government policy here?


Personal and government policy.

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