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Nomination Politico/Morning Consult poll (01/18-01/22)

Biden 26, Sanders 16, O'Rourke 6, Harris 9, Booker 4, Warren 6, Bloomberg 2, Castro 2, Gabbard, Brown 1, Gillibrand 2
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EAllusion wrote:On a related note, almost immediately after announcing her candidacy, she's drawing in a ton of fundraising and shot way up to the top of Daily Kos's straw poll, which is often a decent proxy for support of left wing voters in the Dem coalition. I'm sure you're likely to interpret any success she has as a self-fulling prophecy, but really, this is because she's well-positioned within the Dem coalition.


So far Kamala Harris isn't doing so well and her CNN Super Pac isn't helping her a lot.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/09/us/p ... nding.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6730.html

And I suspect that most of the democratic primary voters watch CNN.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
EAllusion wrote:On a related note, almost immediately after announcing her candidacy, she's drawing in a ton of fundraising and shot way up to the top of Daily Kos's straw poll, which is often a decent proxy for support of left wing voters in the Dem coalition. I'm sure you're likely to interpret any success she has as a self-fulling prophecy, but really, this is because she's well-positioned within the Dem coalition.


So far Kamala Harris isn't doing so well and her CNN Super Pac isn't helping her a lot.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/09/us/p ... nding.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6730.html

And I suspect that most of the democratic primary voters watch CNN.


The first link shows that she is in 5th place in small dollar online donations. Since it is narrowly focused on that subject, it doesn't mention donations over all. The second link shows her polling in 3rd in the 999 candidate gauntlet that is the Dem primary. Neither of these things constitute "not doing well."

If you want an example of cable news manufacturing support for a candidate, look at Howard Schultz. Polling showed his positive approval rating at 5% and negative at 50%. He has no natural constituency nor any attachment to any political apparatus. He's just rich and holds the specific type of centrist views that middle-brow journalists tend to like. That's it. And he was allowed to go on what amounted to cable news speaking tour to campaign for himself and even got a nationally televised town hall on CNN. This is something several major Democratic candidates don't get and several minor ones could only dream of.

Saying Harris appears to be at the top of the ladder in forecasting in a crowded field is a responsible forecasting assessment. Harris still tops betting markets.
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EAllusion wrote:The first link shows that she is in 5th place in small dollar online donations. Since it is narrowly focused on that subject, it doesn't mention donations over all. The second link shows her polling in 3rd in the 999 candidate gauntlet that is the Dem primary. Neither of these things constitute "not doing well."

Not doing well as the front runner. I never seen a front runner behind potential candidates that haven't announced running for office.

Biden 29, Sanders 16, Harris 11, O'Rourke 7, Warren 8, Bloomberg 4, Booker 4, Castro 1, Brown 1, Klobuchar 2, Gillibrand 1, Gabbard 1

EAllusion wrote:Saying Harris appears to be at the top of the ladder in forecasting in a crowded field is a responsible forecasting assessment. Harris still tops betting markets.

Yes, I am also willing to bet money that she is going to end up at the top because she has a Super Pac known as CNN.
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Chris Cillizza needs to get fired.

Biden 27, Sanders 25, Harris 7, Warren 9, O'Rourke 5, Booker 3, Klobuchar 3, Castro 1, Gillibrand 0, Inslee 1


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
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EAllusion wrote:
DoubtingThomas wrote: if the primary were today Harris would have no chance of winning in California.

This is very wrong. Did you learn anything from being really, really wrong about Bernie Sanders again and again?

According to the most recent poll KGTV-TV/SurveyUSA 8/1 - 8/5 Sanders is beats Harris by one percentage point in California. Same result on a Quinnipiac 4/3 - 4/8 poll in April.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6879.html

She was never a front-runner.
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EAllusion wrote:It's their horse race power ranking

When is Bernie Sanders getting a free 12 minute ad on CNN?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQetsFymUp4
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Old, white, and career politicians.

1. Biden 76yo, 4 residences, net worth +$1m
2. Sanders 77yo, 3 residences, net worth +$1m
3. Warren 70yo, 2 residences, net worth +$18m

waaay to go Dems!
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subgenius wrote:Old, white, and career politicians.

1. Biden 76yo, 4 residences, net worth +$1m
2. Sanders 77yo, 3 residences, net worth +$1m
3. Warren 70yo, 2 residences, net worth +$18m

waaay to go Democrats!

However, it is great when Republicans field a candidate in his seventies, right?

Pete Buttigieg may be the youngest, but he compensates by also being the smartest. Trump, on the other hand, is decompensating in a dramatic way.

I don't like Kamala Harris at all. She was insufferably rude to Joe Bidden. She's a poop head.
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