JoPa, Urban Meyer, Bill Clinton and irony & media

[_Bach]

I admit I’m probably older than most if not all here but ......Couldn’t help think about and point out the irony\hypocrisy of these three well known gentlemen.

JoPa was taken down by perhaps one of the biggest “look the other way” scandals in American sports. I have no shame to state I think he was one of the greatest sport figures/coaches of all time. The parameters/practices and just plain emotions of loyalty and trust has changed dramatically over the years. But I truly believe he went to his death with great regret and remorse for his loyalty and what how he eventually realized the impact on young men. Very sad. He was never one to promote himself through the limelight - he just truly loved what he was doing with young men and the sport. He lost his job, but more important to this man, he knew he lost what was more important to him: what his family, his teams, coaches, students foundations and the young people and fans of football and education would remember him as a person.

Urban Meyer is about to lose everything as well. He is finished. Right or wrong - that is our society today. Just like w JoPa, the media is relentless in finding someone to blame. Meyer probably chose to look the other way out of loyalty as well. Misplaced as it may have well been. His mark on the sport will never rival JoPa but he is much younger. And I will admit he probably adorned the limelight much more than JoPa did over his career.

But now we come to Bill Clinton. The most powerful man in the world in his time of crime. He was the exact opposite of the two men above. Of the three, he was the one who was actually involved in forced perpetration of taking advantage of his position, power, influence for the only reason of personal sexual satisfaction from a young, defenseless woman. He had no love nor commitment to anything other than his ego and personal sexual satisfaction. He forced a woman upon himself and his cigar. He WAS the Harvey Weinstein of the Oval Office. Probably remains so in his personal life today. Unlike the two men above, Clinton had a class-less wife who aided and abetted him in his sexual savage throughout his life. He continued post office to deny and dismiss only for one reason - line his pockets with big time $$$$.

So here’s the irony:

Today’s media couldn’t wait to take down two prolific men of passion, commitment to young men, years of faithful marriages, and never wavering to the love of their marriage and family. They both made mistakes. They both lost (or will lose) their life as they knew it.

Bill Clinton, the one who perpetrated injustices on young women, old women, all women as well as his wife and daughter - kept his job and remains a rock star with the media. The media still loves the perpetrator and the abettor.

You tell me!

[This post may never get past Shades nor the IPhone PhD. But I’ll post it’s submission on “Update”]

[_MeDotOrg]

I had never heard the term JoPa before. I grew up on Pac-8 (?) football. USC was the tailback machine, but even then Penn State was known as Linebacker U. (I liked Joe Paterno.

I can understand how someone could have ambivalent feelings about Paterno. He certainly wasn't showering with the boys. To a certain extent, Joe was the victim of changing social standards. I'm sure there are still Jerry Sanduskys out there, but I think people are becoming a lot more vigilant.

Paterno had a cult-like demigod status in Happy Valley. And while he was self-effacing, he was not opposed to that status. The idea that the great Joe Paterno could have a serial pedophile committing acts of pedophilia in the football facilities just didn't jibe with the image of near-infallibility. You can certainly make the argument that the Bill Clinton had personal sexual failings and Paterno had none, but Paterno's unwillingness or inability to see what was going on ultimately led to a far emotional damage than the activities of Bill Clinton. In the backlash against Paterno there was a whiff of comeuppance, time to admit that the man was not made out of bronze.

And I think within Penn State itself there was always those who thought that Paterno and the football team had an inordinate importance in the life of an academic institution. If Paterno's status had to fall in order to diminish the importance of football, that was an o.k. trade off.

Clinton never had the saintlike glow of Paterno. He and Hillary had to deal with Jennifer Flowers during the primaries. And unlike the current White House occupant, Clinton never had an attorney with a job description of paying off Porn Stars and Playmates.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Who was it that saw what's-his-face sodomizing a child in the shower, told Mr. Paterno about it, and then they both shrugged it off?

- Doc

[_Ceeboo]

Who was it that saw what's-his-face sodomizing a child in the shower, told Mr. Paterno about it, and then they both shrugged it off?

- Doc

It was Mike McQueary (Former assistant football coach for Penn State)

Portions from the Sandusky trial:

Mike McQueary, testified that he saw Sandusky sodomizing a boy, maybe 10 to 12 years old, late one night in a locker room shower. The second, previously identified by the grand jury as “Victim 1,” sobbed and buried his face in his hands as he said Sandusky lured him into a close relationship and then sexually abused him repeatedly when he was still in junior high school.

McQueary said that when he told legendary coach Joe Paterno about the incident, “I made sure he knew it was sexual and it was wrong.” Paterno was fired after Sandusky was charged last fall, and he died in January.

[_Kevin Graham]

Bill Clinton's crime was nearly 30 years ago. He had an adulterous affair in a consensual relationship while President.

Comparing this to enabling wife beaters and pedophiles over the course of many, many years, is par for the course in Republican stupidity.

[_Ceeboo]

Bill Clinton's crime was nearly 30 years ago. He had an adulterous affair in a consensual relationship while President.

Comparing this to enabling wife beaters and pedophiles over the course of many, many years, is par for the course in Republican stupidity.

Man that was really close!

If it weren't for the last two words in your post, we would have agreed on something.

Too bad (Especially given the fact that your last two words didn't strengthen your post - It was a distraction at best)