Why Is Trump So Eager to Do Putin's Bidding?

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canpakes wrote:You should make a note that any condescension and outrage is usually reserved for shallow tools who use discredited lists of materials that both do not apply to the discussion and have not even been researched by the denier.

Respect is earned, not gained by copy/pasting bogus BS.


Yes! It has often times been noted and pointed out that subby has a deplorable and apparently incorrigible tendency to attempt to support his position by citing materials that either have already been thoroughly discredited, have no application to what he is trying to prove, or, when read in context in their entirety, are found to fail to support his position or, sometimes, support the the exact opposite position. He is a master at carefully "quote mining" from scientists and other respected authors to make them appear to support positions that disagree with and are, sometimes, diametrically opposed to the actual conclusions expressed in the cited materials he quotes from. He is seemingly oblivious to how severely he embarasses and discredits himself every time he does this. Either that, or he just doesn't care, as long as he manages to resonate with others sufficiently gullible or misinformed to accept his conclusions at face value.
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Gunnar wrote:Either that, or he just doesn't care, as long as he manages to resonate with others sufficiently gullible or misinformed to accept his conclusions at face value.

This is what it is.

If you look at how folks like this carefully edit or choose their material, it’s obvious that they are choosing to be willfully dishonest. The lie itself is the point; deception carries more value in their mind than any claimed moral standard. Far more important than being honest is being ‘right’, and that banner of deception is then soaked in a false pride that belies some serious subconscious insecurities.

It is simply not possible for subs to post this stuff without knowing that it is BS.
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canpakes wrote:
It is simply not possible for subs to post this stuff without knowing that it is BS.


I don't think the idea whether something is true or false enters subby's head. It's about whether he thinks it supports his tribal mentality. It's impossible to convince people like Subby or ajax if they think certain conclusion are important to their tribe. Political tribalism is very important to people like subby and ajax, so the only possible way to change their minds is for them to think their tribe is changing their position, or somehow get them to be less tribal in their thinking. Good luck.
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EAllusion wrote:Given the number of heat records being broken around the globe in the recent heat wave, I’m surprised by the relative dearth of climate change coverage. The press often needs a hook to discuss the issue, and this seems like a prime one.

It’s becoming more and more clear that we are not going to act in time to avert relatively catastrophic outcomes. It’s hard not to understand the issue and not feel a certain amount of despair.

Because for the press our most important issue is abortion.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
EAllusion wrote:Given the number of heat records being broken around the globe in the recent heat wave, I’m surprised by the relative dearth of climate change coverage. The press often needs a hook to discuss the issue, and this seems like a prime one.

It’s becoming more and more clear that we are not going to act in time to avert relatively catastrophic outcomes. It’s hard not to understand the issue and not feel a certain amount of despair.

Because for the press our most important issue is abortion.

its not abortion, its a former porn star.
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canpakes wrote:
So global cooling predictions in the 70s amounted to media and a handful of peer reviewed studies. The small number of papers predicting cooling were outweighed by a much greater number of papers predicting global warming due to the warming effect of rising CO2.

Exactly. And the science behind it even at that time was remarkably good. Many assumptions and expectations about the process made at that time have been validated in the 40 or so years since.

Poor subs had to resort to posting a list of what averages about 3 articles a year spread across the US, from a time period of 4 decades ago, to pull together a faulty list with some titles having absolutely nothing to do with actual climate change.

Dude, even a child could read that my post wasn't a scientific rebuttal - It was a clear commentary on the poster's noted frustration. Point being, "incessant" leads to contempt.... doesn't matter about the content veracity in those 70s articles, my comment is about the volume.

How could you possibly misinterpret that post?
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Re: Why Is Trump So Eager to Do Putin's Bidding?

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subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote:Poor subs had to resort to posting a list of what averages about 3 articles a year spread across the US, from a time period of 4 decades ago, to pull together a faulty list with some titles having absolutely nothing to do with actual climate change.

Dude, even a child could read that my post wasn't a scientific rebuttal - It was a clear commentary on the poster's noted frustration.

Frustration that the facts keep flying in the face of your position?

subgenius wrote:Point being, "incessant" leads to contempt.... doesn't matter about the content veracity in those 70s articles, my comment is about the volume.

Oh, the volume? Just going by the list count, a volume averaging 3 articles per year in random publications? And that's even before we start to remove the articles from your list that have nothing to do with climate change, or the ones that are basically the same reference reported just several days apart in different publication markets. Lol.

Yeah, that argument is bogus, too.

subgenius wrote:How could you possibly misinterpret that post?

The post has been correctly interpreted to be the usual BS from you, freely and dishonestly posted by you even though you know that the whole 'ice age' argument is BS. It's not like you haven't tried this same line of BS in years past, and been spanked just as thoroughly then.

If you're worried about an 'incessant volume' of anything, it should be the amount of dishonest crap that you willingly post on this board. :smile:
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