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Author:  Doctor CamNC4Me [ Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:00 pm ]
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beastie wrote:
Well, I think another white TV star who got a lot of attention for birtherism, and had Steve Bannon guiding him, could definitely have won.


Wait Who in the world could pull that off?

- Doc

Author:  Doctor CamNC4Me [ Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:03 pm ]
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EAllusion wrote:
One of Cam's many foibles is he is incapable of understanding how American Islamophobia is closely tied to race.


Which race is Islam again? Who's making it racial? Oh. That would be you.

Also, I thought race was an artificial construct? So. Is it or is it not an artificial construct?

- Doc

Author:  The CCC [ Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:24 am ]
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It is an artificial construct with very real world implications.
SEE https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/sea ... tion=click

Just like we divide the world into Old World, and New World. But the reality is there is but the same one world we all live in.

Author:  Black Moclips [ Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:36 am ]
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
BMC,

How do you feel about upticking the 5%'ers' tax rate so we can get some infrastructure projects done, some Americans to work, and reduce our national debt a bit?

- Doc


I don't think we have a tax problem (well we do, but for purposes of this argument lets say we don't). We are getting record tax revenues. Its a spending problem. We need an overhaul of what the federal government should spend money on.

I think until we have a deficit of $0.00, not one cent should leave this country to subsidize other nations for anything. A bright light needs to be pointed at every program the federal government spends money on, including the military. I'm pro-armed forces, but the black hole in spending needs to be closed. A friend of mine used to work for the government, working on contracts and procurement for the armed services. He said what floored him was the overlap and redundancy in their spending. Each branch needs the same things, but no, the Army had to have green water coolers, and the Navy had to have blue ones, the Marines needed camo water coolers with a machine gun attached, and the AirForce cooler needed to levitate (tongue and cheek examples). The amount of money spent designing and creating the same things was mind blowing.

We need to get an army of independent, non-partisan forensic accountants to unravel the knot and I think you would find more than enough money for infrastructure spending. I would also whack as many federal "departments" as I could (Agriculture, Education, and HUD to start) and let states manage their own affairs.

If after all of this, we still come up short and need infrastructure spending, then maybe increase certain taxes.

Author:  subgenius [ Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:49 am ]
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Notice how suddenly it's not the Russians that won Trump the election but rather it was a veiled racism that won the election.....but before that it had to be xenophobia that won it.... and before that it was Hillary's campaign absence in Wisconsin that won it.....and the gerrymandering....don't forget the gerrymandering....and of course, the original sin -the electoral college.

Author:  beastie [ Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ta-Nehisi Coates spittin' fire

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wait Who in the world could pull that off?

- Doc

Oh, I think if Bill O'Reilly had been a big proponent of birtherism and hooked up with Steve Bannon and Robert Mercer, he would have won as well, for just one example.

But at no time in history could a black man have said and done the things Trump said and did and be elected president.

AND, in most other moments in history no white man could have gotten away with it, either.

Obviously there was something unique about that particular moment in history.

Author:  beastie [ Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:06 pm ]
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subgenius wrote:
Notice how suddenly it's not the Russians that won Trump the election but rather it was a veiled racism that won the election.....but before that it had to be xenophobia that won it.... and before that it was Hillary's campaign absence in Wisconsin that won it.....and the gerrymandering....don't forget the gerrymandering....and of course, the original sin -the electoral college.

Sometimes I wonder if you're as simple minded as you appear.

Author:  Chap [ Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:20 pm ]
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EAllusion wrote:
American Islamophobia is closely tied to race.

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Which race is Islam again?

As you imply, it's a religion, whose adherents are to be found in a large number of different nations and ethnicities.

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Who's making it racial?

In the US and in Europe? Ignorant people who think that all Muslims are basically what they call 'Arabs'. (A category into which they lump Iranians, Kabyles, and anybody who wears a turban, including Sikhs.)

That is, in the common usage of the term, 'racist'.

Author:  huckelberry [ Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:27 pm ]
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subgenius wrote:
Notice how suddenly it's not the Russians that won Trump the election but rather it was a veiled racism that won the election.....but before that it had to be xenophobia that won it.... and before that it was Hillary's campaign absence in Wisconsin that won it.....and the gerrymandering....don't forget the gerrymandering....and of course, the original sin -the electoral college.


when you become an adult you will grow to understand that an event may be a result of multiple causes.

Author:  The CCC [ Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:51 pm ]
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And adults usually rank causes as to their effect. IE; Having the worlds most punchable face(backpfeifengesicht). But still no excuse for actually punching their face.

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