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 Post subject: Re: 94,044,000 Americans Not in the Labor Force
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 8:14 am 
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So what exactly is it that has you so tied up in knots over the economy given in the grand scheme of it all you have a rather secure field you are working in, a business practice that is yours to grow or kill all on your ownsome, and probably less to worry about than 99% of the global population. Your constant bitching seems rather petty when it's all put into perspective, really.


From what I can glean ajax actually works for someone else. He makes 6 figures. His wife quit her job because it put them in a higher tax bracket and he doesn't understand how the taxation system works. They lease vehicles. It appears they live paycheck to paycheck.

I think he is bent because he can't figure out how to retire. He lives the American Dream, but through mismanagement has found it to be a nightmare. Rather than learning how to fix his situation he spends all his extra time complaining about the unemployed, unwed mothers and immigrants.

I didn't realize he was employed by someone. He had previously mentioned taking out a loan which I had understood was to start his optometry practice but apparently I misunderstood. Thanks for the clarifications. :)

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From what I can glean ajax actually works for someone else. He makes 6 figures. His wife quit her job because it put them in a higher tax bracket and he doesn't understand how the taxation system works. They lease vehicles. It appears they live paycheck to paycheck.

I think he is bent because he can't figure out how to retire. He lives the American Dream, but through mismanagement has found it to be a nightmare. Rather than learning how to fix his situation he spends all his extra time complaining about the unemployed, unwed mothers and immigrants.

I never could see the benefit of leasing vehicles except in some very unusual circumstances. The cost of leasing seems inordinately painful over the long term considering the increased insurance and registration costs on top of the monhly payments. It doesn't allow one to be creative with their approach to auto ownership. That's fine if you have the disposable income to handle it, but seems financially risky otherwise. But maybe I'm just not very knowledgeable about leasing


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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 8:22 am 
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From what I can glean ajax actually works for someone else. He makes 6 figures. His wife quit her job because it put them in a higher tax bracket and he doesn't understand how the taxation system works. They lease vehicles. It appears they live paycheck to paycheck.

I think he is bent because he can't figure out how to retire. He lives the American Dream, but through mismanagement has found it to be a nightmare. Rather than learning how to fix his situation he spends all his extra time complaining about the unemployed, unwed mothers and immigrants.

I didn't realize he was employed by someone. He had previously mentioned taking out a loan which I had understood was to start his optometry practice but apparently I misunderstood. Thanks for the clarifications. :)


I could have missed a new development. If he did start his own practice that is a new thing and a bit surprising given how risk averse ajax is. I wish I new his age range.

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I never could see the benefit of leasing vehicles except in some very unusual circumstances. The cost of leasing seems inordinately painful over the long term considering the increased insurance and registration costs on top of the monthly payments.


How do you get to work if you don't take out a loan to buy a vehicle?

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 9:28 am 
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I never could see the benefit of leasing vehicles except in some very unusual circumstances. The cost of leasing seems inordinately painful over the long term considering the increased insurance and registration costs on top of the monthly payments.


How do you get to work if you don't take out a loan to buy a vehicle?

I've bought all but two of my vehicles with cash. Of the two that were not, one was leased (not completely my choice or preference at the time but there was an exploding vehicle that drove that decision, lol) and after that experience decided that I would never do that again.

While a student, I relied both on my own car and bus service to commute to my job, depending upon if I was leaving from school or home.


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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 9:39 am 
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... ajax ...
He makes 6 figures.

I make 6 figures. Maybe it is 7 by Your System...

I got 200 000 in a month. Six figures. (I am pensioned; so don't work... ajax??? Should I commit suicide or go to work anyway? I am 71.)
It is 2 400 000. Seven figures for a year.

What? Seven figures?
In HUF. Hungarian Forint. Look at rate...

In "$" I get 8.7K in a year. How many figures?
I used to serve my country for 39 years, as a regular.

Do any of You knows anything about Europe? Hungary, maybe?
I pay 332 for the gasoline.
332 HUF for one litre. This would be $5.43 for a stupid gallon.

When we visit some of our grandchildren, (11 of 20...), it is come about my wife's monthly tithe. And we don't ever go with empties.

Got it? Prophets, seers etc etc of a worldwide church...

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 9:48 am 
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How do you get to work if you don't take out a loan to buy a vehicle?


This! Coming from the same guy who's been bitching and moaning about people spending money they don't have. Not only is he perpetually ignorant, he's also a hypocrite.


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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 11:32 am 
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Coming from the same guy who's been bitching and moaning about people spending money they don't have.


You're mistaken. I'm tired of being taxed to pay for people who have children they can't afford.

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Not only is he perpetually ignorant, he's also a hypocrite.


Go back to Brazil, you communist scum.

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 11:35 am 
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I'm not mistaken at all, you're just plain dumb. You actually believe you're supporting other people's children when the fact is you're just another bumpkin making excuses for the fact that he can't support his own family. Here you are talking about how you have to take out loans in the same exact thread where you criticize others for spending money they don't have.

We've been refuting your stupidity for literally years now but you just keep pressing forward with one Brietbart piece after another. The only real certainty here is that you're not interested in discussion or finding out what's actually true. You're just here to vent like so many other uneducated rednecks I know.


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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 12:14 pm 
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How do you get to work if you don't take out a loan to buy a vehicle?


Uh. Save your money and pay for it in cash. The only way taking out a loan makes sense is if you get 0% financing, then it's on the lender to devalue his loan which I recommend.

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 7:20 pm 
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I never could see the benefit of leasing vehicles except in some very unusual circumstances. The cost of leasing seems inordinately painful over the long term considering the increased insurance and registration costs on top of the monthly payments.


How do you get to work if you don't take out a loan to buy a vehicle?


You really need to read the book The Richest Man in Babylon or Rich Dad, Poor Dad, or something.

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 7:27 pm 
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How do you get to work if you don't take out a loan to buy a vehicle?


You really need to read the book The Richest Man in Babylon or Rich Dad, Poor Dad, or something.

I am a little shocked that he isn't a follower of Dave Ramsey to be honest.

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I am a little shocked that he isn't a follower of Dave Ramsey to be honest.


Dave Ramsey is the tits. I followed his game plan and it got me to the promised land. Well. I was kind of doing it anyway, but he certainly helped with his insights.

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 8:57 am 
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You're mistaken. I'm tired of being taxed to pay for people who have children they can't afford.

So where do you stand on a woman's right to an abortion?

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 9:57 am 
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You're mistaken. I'm tired of being taxed to pay for people who have children they can't afford.

So where do you stand on a woman's right to an abortion?


That it should be safe, legal, and rare.


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So where do you stand on a woman's right to an abortion?

That it should be safe, legal, and rare.

I agree with you. What I find strange on the right is you've got people screaming about welfare queens having babies they can't afford while limiting access to abortions that could help mitigate the first issue.

It's almost as though "conservatives" haven't thought this issue through.

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This statistic was plenty disturbing as well. 1/6 men ages 25-54 are not working.

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/up-front ... men-wessel

In one out of five American families, nobody has a job.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... -has-a-job

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What... ajax not answering another direct question? The devil, you say?!

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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:20 am 
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This statistic was plenty disturbing as well. 1/6 men ages 25-54 are not working.

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/up-front ... men-wessel

In one out of five American families, nobody has a job.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... -has-a-job



And how many of those "families" are simply retired couples living off their retirement? Baby boomers are retiring in record numbers and there are 60 million folks on Social Security alone now. Your source says there are 16 million families without anyone employed, which isn't surprising. All you're doing is spinning the same data in a different way to ignore the obvious. There is nothing to be "disturbed" about here.

Here is the part where you ignore the facts for a millionth time and then come back with another Brietfart piece talking about the same ____.


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What... ajax not answering another direct question? The devil, you say?!


It's why no one really takes him seriously.

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