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 Post subject: Re: The Romney bullying story really bugs me
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:43 pm 
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Do you plan to apologize for bullying John Dehlin?


Well, its obvious from your participation here that you have no clue what bullying is, but this is just laughable.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:43 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:44 pm 
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The next time I give some bleached blonde kid a forced haircut or put my dog on a roof for a drive across international borders you can question my moral compass.


I can question it for many things you do, I'm sure. There's far more than a few teen-age jerky things that people do in life that are an embarrassment.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:44 pm 
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Nah. Had to go to France and serve out a time share on a chateau or something.


Well at least by doing so he avoided killing anyone...

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:45 pm 
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Are we sure Mitt is a US citizen?


Exactly. :mrgreen: I want to see the birth certificate.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:46 pm 
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Nah. Had to go to France and serve out a time share on a chateau or something.

Well at least by doing so he avoided killing anyone...


He would have had a heck of a time keeping his hair in order in that humidity too.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:50 pm 
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Do you plan to apologize for bullying John Dehlin?


Well, its obvious from your participation here that you have no clue what bullying is, but this is just laughable.


Do you consider it bullying to stand up to bullies?

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:56 pm 
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Do you consider it bullying to stand up to bullies?


That's called kicking against the pricks, which is a sin. Sin leads to apostacy, apostacy leads to posting on mormondiscussions.com, and people who post on this board are bullies. Therefore, standing up to bullies leads to bullying.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:19 pm 
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I don't like Obama. But how does Obama's behavior excuse Mitt's? I understand kids do stupid things, and we grow older and mature, but Mitt's response is discouraging. He said "if anybody was hurt by that or offended, obviously I apologize for that." I have a knee jerk negative reaction to that type of apology. He also claims to not remember the incident, yet everyone else involved, including his minions, remember it vividly and are still bothered by it today. One of the witnesses to the assault ran into the victim at an airport decades later and apologized for not doing more to help. He never forgot the incident, yet it must not have been that big of a deal to Mitt. I wish he would have said something like, "I deeply regret my behavior in my youth. What I did was wrong. I believe I am better person today." Don't say you are sorry people are offended.


Which makes me question if we can believe the people (mostly Obama supporters) quoted in the article. And I understand the person supposedly involved is dead. I never said Obama's behavior excused Mitt's, but if we're going to go back to what people did in high school we need to go back on Obama's too. Of course I never did anything in high school that I regret doing. Grade school, yes, high school, no.


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:10 pm 
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Romney is not a gay basher, only a bully. I'm relieved!

I don't like bullies. When I was in Junior High, I was bulled by a number of older children. Mitt's half-hearted apology that his prank went "too far" is not very satisfying.

A few days ago, I watched the documentary Bully, which follows a number of bullied children and the family of one child who committed suicide due to incessant bullying. What if Romney's prank caused Lauber to commit suicide? Why should there be any difference, from a moral perspective, if Romney's bullying did not result in Lauber killing himself? Romney's act was the same.

I'm not suggesting that Romney should be jailed for attempted murder. I'm simply stating that Romney should not laughingly dismiss this incident from his past, particularly in light of the many recent reports of children killing themselves due to bullying.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:34 pm 
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This incident even if 100% true has next to no impact on how I view Romney politically. That it carries so much weight through media attention actually bothers me. That said, Romney's standard PRish not-pology was annoying.


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:36 pm 
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You all might want to read this:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/10/crack ... ks-emerge/


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:56 pm 
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Some drugs can cause permanent brain damage ...

Yeah, look what it did to Dubya.


OMG, just checked out that daily caller link. Wow, that place is certainly filled with nice people. They are spouting the drug use nonsense there as well. As to the story on the site regarding Romney's assault, errrr, "prank," so one of the people who talked about it wasn't there. So?

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:09 pm 
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That looks like a right-wing rag. If the story is false, why is Mitt Romney going into spin mode? You would think he would simply deny a false story.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:10 pm 
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Yeah, look what it did to Dubya.


OMG, just checked out that daily caller link. Wow, that place is certainly filled with nice people. They are spouting the drug use nonsense there as well. As to the story on the site regarding Romney's assault, errrr, "prank," so one of the people who talked about it wasn't there. So?

He also said he did not hear about it until the Post told him about it last year.


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:12 pm 
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That looks like a right-wing rag. If the story is false, why is Mitt Romney going into spin mode? You would think he would simply deny a false story.


This is coming from ABC News, not Romney.


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:17 pm 
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Romney was of the LDS generation that thought it was acceptable to use violence against homosexuality.

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While I was in a mission on one occasion, a missionary said he had something to confess. I was very worried because he just could not get himself to tell me what he had done.

After patient encouragement he finally blurted out, "I hit my companion."

"Oh, is that all," I said in great relief.

"But I floored him," he said.

After learning a little more, my response was "Well, thanks. Somebody had to do it, and it wouldn't be well for a General Authority to solve the problem that way"

I am not recommending that course to you, but I am not omitting it. You must protect yourself.


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I will never forget my former brother-in-law bragging about how he wrapped his companion, who, evidently, was obviously gay, in a shower curtain and beat him. He was proud of it, and proud that he didn't get in trouble for it.

Remember, this is the culture that, at this time period, tried to deal with homosexuality by shocking it out of young men at BYU. Literally.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:42 pm 
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I'm old enough to know that we didn't normally even think of other people as gay in the early 70s. There may have been gays in my high school, but at the time it would never have crossed my mind that someone was gay.


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:50 pm 
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BartBurk wrote:
I'm old enough to know that we didn't normally even think of other people as gay in the early 70s. There may have been gays in my high school, but at the time it would never have crossed my mind that someone was gay.


If you didn't call them gay, what did you call them? Queer? Faggot?

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:57 pm 
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It probably shouldn't bug me, because he was a kid, and we all did stupid things as a kid. This kind of thing shows a person's character, and I really hope he has changed.
He hadn't changed as of the time he was Governor: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/1 ... f=politics

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:59 pm 
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It probably shouldn't bug me, because he was a kid, and we all did stupid things as a kid. This kind of thing shows a person's character, and I really hope he has changed.

Back in 1996 I tried very hard to like Bob Dole, but in the end I just couldn't bring myself to vote for him, so I decided to forgive Bill Clinton for his past sexual indiscretions and ended up voting for him.

I'd like personally to hear what Romney has to say about the John Lauber incident, but if it turns out it occurred as described, then I'm very disappointed in him. But to be consistent I really need to forgive him of such an act carried out as an 18-year-old just like I forgave Clinton.

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