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 Post subject: Evangelicals and Trump
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:40 pm 
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Evangelicals are concerned that they are receiving a lot of criticism because of their support of a man who has had according many reports of affairs with a number of women. They have supported him because of his position on abortion and their hope he will appoint judges to the high court that will not support abortion. Trump has denied these affairs. Why the contract with Stormy Daniels? The GOP has it seems a number of politicians or operatives who are having or had affairs . e.g The Governor of Missouri and finance person in the GOP (Over a million dollars paid to the woman). I think the only evangelical I respect is Jimmy Carter.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2018/04/12/when-you-google-evangelicals-you-get-trump-high-profile-evangelicals-will-meet-privately-to-discuss-their-future/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a9d7a699c5e0

Are Evangelicals on the nose now with there almost uncritical support of Trump How many more women will surface to talk about an affair with Trump.


For Evangelicals, the only unforgivable sin is liberalism.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:07 pm 
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aussieguy55 wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2018/04/12/when-you-google-evangelicals-you-get-trump-high-profile-evangelicals-will-meet-privately-to-discuss-their-future/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a9d7a699c5e0

Are Evangelicals on the nose now with there almost uncritical support of Trump How many more women will surface to talk about an affair with Trump.


For Evangelicals, the only unforgivable sin is liberalism.


Anything outside the GOP is Outer Darkness. :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:09 pm 
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aussieguy55 wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2018/04/12/when-you-google-evangelicals-you-get-trump-high-profile-evangelicals-will-meet-privately-to-discuss-their-future/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a9d7a699c5e0

Are Evangelicals on the nose now with there almost uncritical support of Trump How many more women will surface to talk about an affair with Trump.

incoherent, please revise and resubmit.

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Res Ipsa wrote:
For Evangelicals, the only unforgivable sin is liberalism.


For them the unforgivable sin is abortion.


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DoubtingThomas wrote:
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For Evangelicals, the only unforgivable sin is liberalism.


For them the unforgivable sin is abortion.


Except in the cases of rape, incest, or "Oops, I got my mistress pregnant".

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:00 am 
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
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For Evangelicals, the only unforgivable sin is liberalism.


For them the unforgivable sin is abortion.


No--it's raising taxes. :lol:

Liberals are just who they love to hate.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:50 am 
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A poll by the Public Religion Research Institute shows that support for President Trump among white evangelicals has hit a record high of 75 percent. Only 22 percent view the president unfavorably.

The Hill reports that the “president’s favorability with white evangelicals in the poll has steadily risen over time, with his previous high being at 74 percent in February 2017.”

At one point this year, though, that number sat at just 68 percent.

In this same poll, among the general public, Trump’s job approval number sits at 42 percent, a five point jump since January.

One key take away from this poll is the establishment media’s total failure to separate Trump from the evangelical vote. This goal is why the media is willing to make such hypocritical fools of themselves while obsessing over Trump’s sex life.

The very same media that ignored, downplayed, and defended Bill Clinton and John Edwards from sex scandals that occurred in the White House and on the campaign trail, are more than willing to look ridiculous frenzying over the possibility that Trump might have boinked some hotties in consensual relationships more than a dozen years ago.

The whole point of this coverage is to undermine Trump’s support with his core in the evangelical community, which only proves how provincial and out-of-touch the media are in believing such a thing would work.

What’s more, when you see the jump in support from 68 percent to 75 percent during the very same period the media decided to go 24/7 with Trump’s sex life, it is safe to say that this tactic has not only failed, it has backfired.
Of course, the media are not alone. There are a countless number of stupes in the NeverTrump movement, like Jonah Goldberg, who are just as obsessed and ignorant.

To begin with, as Tucker Carlson so memorably put it, after eight years of Christians having their religious freedoms under assault during the Obama-era, we are looking for a bodyguard, not a saint. And let us not forget that many of the saints were not saints, but rather complicated, fallen, and difficult people who fell short in all kinds of ways.

Moreover, a present-day scandal (Edwards, Clinton) compared to something that might have happened over a decade ago, is just not a concern to the Faithful (I’m Catholic), especially when the fascist state wants us to pay for abortions and force Christian cake and floral artists to participate in the sacramentalization of sin that is a same sex wedding.

But because their bigoted and narrow minds stereotype evangelicals, the media and NeverTrump have confused the Faithful with the Pharisees — those judgmental finger-pointers who damn the imperfect. These bigots have forgotten that Christians are instead taught to refrain from judgment and to focus on our own sins.

The truth is that it is the media and NeverTrump who are behaving like the Pharisees, using sin as a political weapon to further their own mercenary goals. There is no principle behind their self-righteous moralizing, just ego and bitterness, a craven desire to emotionally blackmail and manipulate people.
Jesus had the choice of siding with the sinners or the hypocritical Pharisees. He chose the sinners, knowing there was at least some hope for their salvation while the strident, sanctimonious Pharisees were hopeless.

There is an important lesson in that. As long as Trump keeps protecting our rights and the pious scolds keep standing atop the logs in their eyes to hector us into condemning others, this is a shockingly easy choice.

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 Post subject: Re: Evangelicals and Trump
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:32 pm 
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"To begin with, as Tucker Carlson so memorably put it, after eight years of Christians having their religious freedoms under assault during the Obama-era, we are looking for a bodyguard, not a saint."

How were Christians in America having their religious freedoms under assalt during the Obama Presidency???

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:00 pm 
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What about Congressional Republicans and Trump last year trying to make deep cuts to Medicaid?? Was that Christian of them??

What about Trump's decision to phase out DACA and then rejecting a bipartisan deal from 16 Senators on DACA?? Was that Christian of him??

"The bipartisan measure, sponsored by seven Democrats, eight Republicans and one independent, would appropriate $25 billion for border security, including construction of the president’s proposed wall at the Mexican border, over a 10-year period — not immediately, as Mr. Trump demands."

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/14/u ... hreat.html

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:16 pm 
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Over the years, one of the top advantages of religion has been the way it superficially masked a person's hypocrisy.

But that never lasts. I suppose Evangelicals realize the jig is up and have decided they might as well publicly support the pussy grabber. Nobody believes in their piety anyway. This feels like an admission: Yeah, we were full of ____ all along. You got us.

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"To begin with, as Tucker Carlson so memorably put it, after eight years of Christians having their religious freedoms under assault during the Obama-era, we are looking for a bodyguard, not a saint."

How were Christians in America having their religious freedoms under assalt during the Obama Presidency???


You don't remember the Great Persecutions of 2010? All the babies that were eaten and churches desecrated? It was all covered on Fox News. Glenn Beck even put his bowtie and glasses on to teach us all about it. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:06 am 
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
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For Evangelicals, the only unforgivable sin is liberalism.


For them the unforgivable sin is abortion.


No, it's not.

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I keep trying to find that part of the New Testament where Jesus says the ends justify the means.

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Brackite wrote:
"To begin with, as Tucker Carlson so memorably put it, after eight years of Christians having their religious freedoms under assault during the Obama-era, we are looking for a bodyguard, not a saint."

How were Christians in America having their religious freedoms under assalt during the Obama Presidency???

The great thing about living in an alternate reality like a typical religion or today's GOP is you can claim persecution and whine about it without having to prove said persecution. Religious people have been making up their version of reality for centuries.

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