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 Post subject: Market Finish This Week
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:51 pm 
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Market again finished another strong week.

Was up 228 alone today. Investors seem to be focused on the important things this Friday.

Anyone disagree?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:10 pm 
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Yea, it's kind of bad news. Some time over the next few weeks I need to invest a couple hundred thousand of profit sharing into the 401(k) accounts of my employees, and I'd rather not do it when the market is overvalued.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:20 pm 
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Analytics wrote:
Yea, it's kind of bad news. Some time over the next few weeks I need to invest a couple hundred thousand of profit sharing into the 401(k) accounts of my employees, and I'd rather not do it when the market is overvalued.


That statement alone says volumes. Market timers never had the wherewithall to be true investors.

FYI - too many giveaways in your conclusions that out you as either a novice or a troll on this subject.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:12 am 
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Bach wrote:
FYI - too many giveaways in your conclusions that out you as either a novice or a troll on this subject.

Says the fellow who believes that the market lost ground overall during Obama's time in office. :smile:


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:27 am 
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Bach wrote:
Market again finished another strong week.

Was up 228 alone today. Investors seem to be focused on the important things this Friday.

Anyone disagree?

"Market is up again" was a phrase we all got bored with during 8 years of Obama. Now suddenly you've come to adore it when the black guy is out of office.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:11 am 
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Kevin Graham wrote:
Bach wrote:
Market again finished another strong week.

Was up 228 alone today. Investors seem to be focused on the important things this Friday.

Anyone disagree?

"Market is up again" was a phrase we all got bored with during 8 years of Obama. Now suddenly you've come to adore it when the black guy is out of office.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:51 am 
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Bach wrote:
Analytics wrote:
Yea, it's kind of bad news. Some time over the next few weeks I need to invest a couple hundred thousand of profit sharing into the 401(k) accounts of my employees, and I'd rather not do it when the market is overvalued.


That statement alone says volumes. Market timers never had the wherewithall to be true investors.

FYI - too many giveaways in your conclusions that out you as either a novice or a troll on this subject.

Didn't you already establish that when I said I preferred to defer taxes by investing in my 401(k) rather than investing with after-tax dollars like big boys like you do?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:02 pm 
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Kevin Graham wrote:
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Market again finished another strong week.

Was up 228 alone today. Investors seem to be focused on the important things this Friday.

Anyone disagree?

"Market is up again" was a phrase we all got bored with during 8 years of Obama. Now suddenly you've come to adore it when the black guy is out of office.

(have to make sure, and check w Juliann up front, that I don’t get banned from this thread by using the same language that you live by here but:)

Are you that stupid and ignorant?!?!!

When, under any Obama time in office did companies come out in mass with corporate bonuses and minimum wage hikes, all for the working people, like we’ve just witnessed, in masses, as we’ve all just experienced?!?!? WAY TO MANY TO LIST !!

Have no doubt you want to go back to the Obama days of 1-2% GDP growth ( and please don’t ask me to explain GDP and how it’s growth affects our economy and wages. Just can’t spend as much time Gee as you do!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:13 pm 
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Bach wrote:
Are you that stupid and ignorant?!?!!

When, under any Obama time in office did companies come out in mass with corporate bonuses and minimum wage hikes, all for the working people, like we’ve just witnessed, in masses, as we’ve all just experienced?!?!? WAY TO MANY TO LIST !!

Have no doubt you want to go back to the Obama days of 1-2% GDP growth ( and please don’t ask me to explain GDP and how it’s growth affects our economy and wages. Just can’t spend as much time Gee as you do!

Wow. Both your market position and expertise must be piss poor if a $1000 bonus from Walmart today (which your company isn’t even offering) beats your portfolio investment earnings from the time span when Obama was in office.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:41 pm 
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Bach wrote:
When, under any Obama time in office did companies come out in mass with corporate bonuses and minimum wage hikes, all for the working people, like we’ve just witnessed, in masses, as we’ve all just experienced?!?!? WAY TO MANY TO LIST !!


It seems you're just as ignorant about this as you are the stock market. The fact that you actually believe Trump is causing companies to give bonuses "in masses" is proof positive that you're not very familiar with modern corporate America. Companies giving raises and bonuses is something that happens every year with thousands of companies. But your idiot sources don't credit the President for any of that when he's black and Democrat. But much of the stuff Trump is taking credit for, we're now finding out had nothing at all to do with Trump, such as the AT&T bonuses that were negotiated via union, before Trump took office.

As far as the phenomenon of companies giving bonuses, you must have never worked a day during Obama's 8 years because what we're seeing now is just a continuation of the trend that was started well before Trump took office. SO you were either living on the moon, or you were just sitting in front of FOX News all day listening to all the talk about how the economy was on the verge of collapse because of Obama's job stifling tax hikes.

2010: According to Businessinsider, Google offers all of its employees $1,000 cash holiday bonus and 2011 Salary increases of at least 10%.

2011: General Motors and Chrysler, which posted much-improved results last year after reorganizing in bankruptcy court in 2009, said Friday that they would pay bonuses to salaried workers in the United States...The bonuses will range from 4 percent to 16 percent of annual pay for 96 percent of G.M.’s white-collar work force, the statement said.

2012: If You Don't Get A Bonus This Year, You're In The Minority, Survey Says: "Nearly three in four employers plan to hand out year-end bonuses in 2012, according to a new survey by Chicago-based outplacement giant Challenger, Gray & Christmas. That’s quite a boost from last year, when only 53% of firms planned to hand out year-end rewards."

2013: Half Of All Employers Will Offer Bonuses

2014: More companies award bonuses: "More companies are offering cash bonuses for the first time in years or are increasing the size of bonuses. Some are back to offering pay raises to start in January. "

2014: Nearly 80 percent of employers give year-end bonuses, survey says

2015: 1,380 employees at Hilcorp received a $100,000 Christmas bonus.

Here is the part where you call out Google for engaging in a massive Liberal conspiracy to fabricate archived articles.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:55 am 
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Bach wrote:
... please don’t ask me to explain GDP and how it’s growth affects our economy and wages.

Don’t worry. No one will ask you, seeing as how you have started so many threads that consistently demonstrate your knowledge of markets and finance to be on par with that of a hamster.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:09 pm 
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canpakes wrote:
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... please don’t ask me to explain GDP and how it’s growth affects our economy and wages.

Don’t worry. No one will ask you, seeing as how you have started so many threads that consistently demonstrate your knowledge of markets and finance to be on par with that of a hamster.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:35 pm 
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Kevin Graham wrote:

It seems you're just as ignorant about this as you are the stock market. The fact that you actually believe Trump is causing companies to give bonuses "in masses" is proof positive that you're not very familiar with modern corporate America. Companies giving raises and bonuses is something that happens every year with thousands of companies. But your idiot sources don't credit the President for any of that when he's black and Democrat. But much of the stuff Trump is taking credit for, we're now finding out had nothing at all to do with Trump, such as the AT&T bonuses that were negotiated via union, before Trump took office.

As far as the phenomenon of companies giving bonuses, you must have never worked a day during Obama's 8 years because what we're seeing now is just a continuation of the trend that was started well before Trump took office. SO you were either living on the moon, or you were just sitting in front of FOX News all day listening to all the talk about how the economy was on the verge of collapse because of Obama's job stifling tax hikes.

2010: According to Businessinsider, Google offers all of its employees $1,000 cash holiday bonus and 2011 Salary increases of at least 10%.

2011: General Motors and Chrysler, which posted much-improved results last year after reorganizing in bankruptcy court in 2009, said Friday that they would pay bonuses to salaried workers in the United States...The bonuses will range from 4 percent to 16 percent of annual pay for 96 percent of G.M.’s white-collar work force, the statement said.

2012: If You Don't Get A Bonus This Year, You're In The Minority, Survey Says: "Nearly three in four employers plan to hand out year-end bonuses in 2012, according to a new survey by Chicago-based outplacement giant Challenger, Gray & Christmas. That’s quite a boost from last year, when only 53% of firms planned to hand out year-end rewards."

2013: Half Of All Employers Will Offer Bonuses

2014: More companies award bonuses: "More companies are offering cash bonuses for the first time in years or are increasing the size of bonuses. Some are back to offering pay raises to start in January. "

2014: Nearly 80 percent of employers give year-end bonuses, survey says

2015: 1,380 employees at Hilcorp received a $100,000 Christmas bonus.

Here is the part where you call out Google for engaging in a massive Liberal conspiracy to fabricate archived articles.


I’ll take this as a vote to bring back Obama’s economic plan of the prior 8 years.

Anyone want to join “Kevin Graham” in moving back to 2% GDP and the “real job growth” that accompanied Obama’s economy?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:49 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:56 pm 
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Bach wrote:

I’ll take this as a vote to bring back Obama’s economic plan of the prior 8 years.

Anyone want to join “Kevin Graham” in moving back to 2% GDP and the “real job growth” that accompanied Obama’s economy?


Earth to moron, this IS the Obama economy. Trump hasn't done ____.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:59 pm 
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by the way Bach, we're still waiting for you to explain how Trump made all of those companies expand, jack up wages and give huge bonuses throughout the Obama years.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:03 pm 
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Bach wrote:

When, under any Obama time in office did companies come out in mass with corporate bonuses and minimum wage hikes, all for the working people, like we’ve just witnessed, in masses, as we’ve all just experienced?!?!? WAY TO MANY TO LIST !!


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:09 pm 
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So I’m just asking here:

Did anyone feel pain in there investment portfolio this month so far?

I had 25% growth in my portfolio this past month. But that was only in an aggressive tech Stock i bought. YTD evretyyhing else was up around 18%. Anyone here see a decline in their retirement portfolio planning this past month?

Seriously: Anyone here want to go back to the Obama economy (other Kevin Graham)?

Other Kevin Graham and EAllusion - anyone here complaining about what’s wrong with this economy???

Really would love to hear in articulation.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:17 pm 
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If not, why? Why would folks here not invest in this market given what the opportunity was under Obama? Help me understand.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:42 pm 
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My cumulative return on my pre-Obama investments during the Obama years was over 200% on the stock side. That's phenomenal. That's because he took the presidency when the stock market had crashed and was president during 8 years of recovered growth. The economy Trump has inherited has a strong annualized growth rate in stocks, though I'm fairly certain it has under-performed the annualized average growth under Obama's presidency. Because I do not attribute stock prices to who is president like a uneducated man-child, I don't think this is a demonstration of the superiority of Obama policy, but it does make the challenge a bizarre one. I'd gladly take the market growth of Obama's first year in office or his first year after his reelection over Trump's first year. This is because I can do math.


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