No Sennacherib's Prism 4 Book of Mormon

[Guest]

Todays sermon was on Sennacherib's Prism that can be found in London Museum where we can verify the Biblical story of Hezekiah and Sennacherib, but no artifacts from the Book of Mormon have ever been found

Psalm 124 A Song of Ascents. Of David.
1 “If it had not been the Lord who was on our side,” Let Israel now say—
2 “If it had not been the Lord who was on our side, When men rose up against us,
3 Then they would have swallowed us alive, When their wrath was kindled against us;
4 Then the waters would have overwhelmed us, The stream would have gone over our soul;
5 Then the swollen waters Would have gone over our soul.”
6 Blessed be the Lord, Who has not given us as prey to their teeth.
7 Our soul has escaped as a bird from the snare of the fowlers; The snare is broken, and we have escaped.
8 Our help is in the name of the Lord, Who made heaven and earth.

Mercy-Not getting what you truly deserve

Grace-Getting what I could never deserve

http://youtu.be/7fEz6fP48f4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_and ... rib_Prisms

http://www.newheights.org/current-teaching-series/

Excerpts from the Prism

Some passages in the Old Testament agree with at least a few of the claims made on the prism. The Bible recounts a successful Assyrian attack on Samaria, as a result of which the population was deported, and later recounts that an attack on Lachish was ended by Hezekiah suing for peace, with Sennacherib demanding 300 talents of silver and 30 talents of gold, and Hezekiah giving him all the silver from his palace and from the Temple in Jerusalem, and the gold from doors and doorposts of the temple.[9] Compared to this, the Taylor Prism proclaims that 46 walled cities and innumerable smaller settlements were conquered by the Assyrians, with 200,150 people, and livestock, being deported, and the conquered territory being dispersed among the three kings of the Philistines instead of being given back. Additionally, the Prism says that Sennacherib’s siege resulted in Hezekiah being shut up in Jerusalem "like a caged bird", Hezekiah's mercenaries and 'Arabs' deserting him, and Hezekiah eventually buying off Sennacherib, having to give him antimony, jewels, ivory-inlaid furniture, his own daughters, harem, and musicians. It states that Hezekiah became a tributary ruler.

[_futuremissionary]

You're using a logical fallacy called "Argument from Ignorance" to try to disprove the Book of Mormon. Regardless of whether your overall hypothesis is correct, your argument is flawed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

[_Mittens]

You're using a logical fallacy called "Argument from Ignorance" to try to disprove the Book of Mormon. Regardless of whether your overall hypothesis is correct, your argument is flawed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

1) "It is also to the Book of Mormon to which we turn for the plainest description of the Catholic Church as the great and abominable church. Nephi saw this ‘church which is the most abominable above all other churches' in vision. He ‘saw the devil that he was the foundation of it' and also the murders, wealth, harlotry, persecutions, and evil desires that historically have been a part of this Satanic organization.(Bruce R. McConkie. Mormon Doctrine [1958], 130.)

2) "I think no more of taking another wife than I do of buying a cow." - Apostle Heber C. Kimball, The Twenty Seventh Wife, Irving Wallace, p. 101.

3) "Brethren, I want you to understand that it is not to be as it has been heretofore. The brother missionaries have been in the habit of picking out the prettiest women for themselves before they get here, and bringing on the ugly ones for us; hereafter you have to bring them all here before taking any of them, and let us all have a fair shake." - Apostle Heber C. Kimball, The Lion of the Lord, New York, 1969, pp

4) "You may inquire of the intelligent of the world whether they can tell why the aborigines of this country are dark, loathsome, ignorant, and sunken into the depths of degradation ...When the Lord has a people, he makes covenants with them and gives unto them promises: then, if they transgress his law, change his ordinances, and break his covenants he has made with them, he will put a mark upon them, as in the case of the Lamanites and other portions of the house of Israel; but by-and-by they will become a white and delightsome people" (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 7:336).

5) "The day of the Lamanites in nigh. For years they have been growing delightsome. . . The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation. . .There was the doctor in a Utah city who for two years had had an Indian boy in his home who stated that he was some shades lighter than the younger brother just coming into the program from the reservation. These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness. Spencer W. Kimball; The Improvemant, Era, Dec. 1960, p. 923)

6) "You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind....Cain slew his brother. Can might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, page 290).

7) "Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Volume 10, page 110.)

8) "Not only was Cain called upon to suffer, but because of his wickedness he became the father of an inferior race." (Tenth LDS President, Joseph Fielding Smith The Way to Perfection, p.101.)

9) "Let us consider the great mercy of God for a moment. a Chinese, born in China with a dark skin, and with all the handicaps of that race seems to have little opportunity. but think of the mercy of god to Chinese people who are willing to accept the gospel. In spite of whatever they might have done in the pre-existence to justify being born over there as Chinamen, if they now, in this life, accept the gospel and live it the rest of their lives they can have the Priesthood, go to the temple and receive endowments and sealings, and that means they can have exaltation. Isn't the mercy of God marvelous?

Think of the Negro, cursed as to the priesthood... This Negro, who in the pre-existence lived the type of life which justified the Lord in sending him to the earth in the lineage of Cain with a black skin, and possibly being born in darkest Africa--if that Negro is willing when he hears the gospel to accept it, he may have many of the blessings of the gospel. In spite of all he did in the pre-existent life, the Lord is willing, if the Negro accepts the gospel with real, sincerer faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessing of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost. If that Negro is faithful all his days, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory. (Race Problems--As They Affect The Church, An address by Mark E. Petersen at the Convention of Teachers of Religion on the College level; Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah, August 27, 1954.)

10) "We do not intend to admit to our campus any homosexuals. If any of you have this tendency and have not completely abandoned it, may I suggest that you leave the university immediately after this assembly.... We do not want others on this campus to be contaminated by your presence." (Ernest Wilkinson, president of Brigham Young University, in a 1965 lecture to the BYU student body, titled: "Make Honor your Standard."

[_futuremissionary]

Now those are valid arguments. I still don't agree with your overall conclusion, but I always appreciate evidence that correlates to a conclusion. :)

[_Mittens]

Now those are valid arguments. I still don't agree with your overall conclusion, but I always appreciate evidence that correlates to a conclusion. :)

teachings of Mormons not found in Book of Mormon, The Articles of Faith “ Mormon Creed” or Bible.

1. The plurality of Gods (Mormon Doctrine pp. 576, 577)
2. The baptism for the dead done in holy temples (Mormon Doctrine pp. 72,73)
3. Celestial marriage which no unworthy member or outsider can attend (Mormon Doctrine pp. 117, 118)
4. Polygamy needed to become a God (Journal of Discourse, Vol. II p. 269)
5. Blacks were cursed with a dark skin (Mormon Doctrine p. 109)
6. You can become a God if you are worthy; celestial marriage required (Mormon Doctrine p. 118)
7. We were all pre-existent spirits (Mormon Doctrine p. 589)
8. God has a body of flesh and bones (Mormon Doctrine p. 289)
9. We have a Heavenly Mother as well as a Heavenly Father (Mormon Doctrine p. 516)
10. There are three levels of heaven. To go to the highest kingdom, you must be a Mormon. Honorable persons go to the Terrestrial kingdom. The dishonest, liars, sorcerers, adulterers and whoremongers go to the Telestial kingdom. (Mormon Doctrine pp. 420, 421)
11. God and his wife achieved a celestial marriage (Celestial Marriage Manual p. 1)
12. Heavenly Father died just like Jesus (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith p. 346)
13. God was once just like us and progressed to godhood (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith p. 345)
14. God has a father and His Father has a Father, etc. (Mormon Doctrine p. 322)
15. Jesus and Lucifer are spirit brothers (Mormon Doctrine p. 192)
16. Jesus and Lucifer each had a plan to people the earth. Jesus' plan was chosen and caused Lucifer to rebel and he and the angels that followed him were cast out of heaven. (Mormon Doctrine p. 193)
17. God lives near a star called Kolob (Mormon Doctrine p. 428)
18. Temple endowments are so sacred that you must be worthy to enter (Mormon Doctrine pp. 619, 620)
19. Jesus was not able to keep his church together (History of the Church Vol. 6 pp. 408, 409)
20. In the future, you will need Joseph Smith's consent in order to enter the celestial kingdom (Journal of Discourse Vol. 7 p.289)
21. Not everything you'll need to know concerning salvation will be recorded in the Bible but there will be additional scriptures (Mormon Doctrine p. 83)"

[_Mittens]

http://youtu.be/cnWr6DOFHa0

[_Bret Ripley]

Todays sermon was on Sennacherib's Prism that can be found in London Museum ...

Nitpick: Sennacherib's Prism is housed in the Oriental Institute of Chicago, while Taylor's Prism is in the British Museum (which is not the same as the London Museum/Museum of London).

... where we can verify the Biblical story of Hezekiah and Sennacherib,

A bit. According to II Kings, Sennacherib was defeated and withdrew after an angel slew 185,000 Assyrians. The Sennacherib and Taylor prisms record that Sennacherib lifted his siege of Jerusalem only after Hezekiah submitted and Judah became a tributary state.

but no artifacts from the Book of Mormon have ever been found

(uses ventriloquism to whisper 'Bat Creek Stone' then quickly scurries away.)

[_Mittens]

The Psalms of Ascent refer to this conquest Psalms 120-134

http://youtu.be/q24z4XcJxnM

[_Mittens]

Todays sermon was on Sennacherib's Prism that can be found in London Museum ...

Nitpick: Sennacherib's Prism is housed in the Oriental Institute of Chicago, while Taylor's Prism is in the British Museum (which is not the same as the London Museum/Museum of London).

... where we can verify the Biblical story of Hezekiah and Sennacherib,

A bit. According to II Kings, Sennacherib was defeated and withdrew after an angel slew 185,000 Assyrians. The Sennacherib and Taylor prisms record that Sennacherib lifted his siege of Jerusalem only after Hezekiah submitted and Judah became a tributary state.

but no artifacts from the Book of Mormon have ever been found

(uses ventriloquism to whisper 'Bat Creek Stone' then quickly scurries away.)

Very good my post came from memory and since I turn 69 next year it might not be accurate


http://thetruthaboutmormonism-creeksalm ... -sect.html

[_maklelan]

Todays sermon was on Sennacherib's Prism that can be found in London Museum where we can verify the Biblical story of Hezekiah and Sennacherib, but no artifacts from the Book of Mormon have ever been found

Which version of the biblical story of Hezekiah and Sennacherib? There's the one where Hezekiah just pays Sennacherib and he leaves, then there are the two others where he refuses to pay him and Sennacherib besieges the city. Also, there's nothing in Sennacherib's prism or in any other text from the time period that at all lends support to the notion that an angel swooped down and killed hundreds of thousands of them. So, what you're left with is a historical artifact that shows Sennacherib did in fact lay siege to Jerusalem, and a biblical text with three different versions of the same story that totally contradict each other and with one that ends with an enormous slaughter that obviously never happened. How does this make the Bible better than the Book of Mormon?