It is currently Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:33 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 317 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:44 pm 
2nd Quorum of Seventy

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:07 pm
Posts: 701
Location: Vancouver Washington
Joseph Smith Jr knew of a little Island NE of madascare on west African coast developed in 1500 with capital called Nephi

_________________
Justice=getting what you deserve
Mercy=not getting what you deserve
Grace=Getting what U-Can never deserve


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:47 pm 
2nd Quorum of Seventy

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:07 pm
Posts: 701
Location: Vancouver Washington
Joseph Smith Jr knew of these names "Nephi and Moroni" on West African Coast

http://www.nephiproject.com/Moroni's%20Harbor.htm

_________________
Justice=getting what you deserve
Mercy=not getting what you deserve
Grace=Getting what U-Can never deserve


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:06 pm 
God

Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:59 am
Posts: 1681
I will just ignore all the tabloid stuff. Mittens, the so called Apostles Creed is not what the name implies. There was no such creed ever espoused by the apostles. Also, David is stating that God would not leave his (David's) soul in hell.

The doctrine of the Godhead is really a simple and sound one, at least it was until uninspired men without authority started tampering with it! The doctrine is this: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are three distinct separate beings, and they form one Godhead (the most correct Biblical term) which we worship, and we refer sometimes to the Godhead as our God, and since we worship that Godhead, it is our God, However, They are of divided substance and are separate beings contrary to what the Athenasian Creed states, or else it must be such a dumb substance as for one not to know what the other will do! This is also what is meant by the modern prophets as well as the Book of Mormon and Bible prophets who have seen and know first hand!

You also made many misleading statements in your last post, and too many for me to comment on. That's why I just gave a summary of the true conception of the Godhead. However, I will mention one. I think we all know what was meant by the "Catholic faith," notwithstanding we should all know that that the name was given to that apostate church as meaning universal!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:43 pm 
God

Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:52 am
Posts: 7306
gdemetz wrote:
I will just ignore all the tabloid stuff. Mittens, the so called Apostles Creed is not what the name implies. There was no such creed ever espoused by the apostles. Also, David is stating that God would not leave his (David's) soul in hell.

The doctrine of the Godhead is really a simple and sound one, at least it was until uninspired men without authority started tampering with it! The doctrine is this: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are three distinct separate beings, and they form one Godhead (the most correct Biblical term) which we worship, and we refer sometimes to the Godhead as our God, and since we worship that Godhead, it is our God, However, They are of divided substance and are separate beings contrary to what the Athenasian Creed states, or else it must be such a dumb substance as for one not to know what the other will do! This is also what is meant by the modern prophets as well as the Book of Mormon and Bible prophets who have seen and know first hand!

You also made many misleading statements in your last post, and too many for me to comment on. That's why I just gave a summary of the true conception of the Godhead. However, I will mention one. I think we all know what was meant by the "Catholic faith," notwithstanding we should all know that that the name was given to that apostate church as meaning universal!



And yet...


Quote:
{Mosiah} Chapter 15
How Christ is both the Father and the Son—He will make intercession and bear the transgressions of his people—They and all the holy prophets are his seed—He brings to pass the Resurrection—Little children have eternal life. About 148 B.C.

 1 And now Abinadi said unto them: I would that ye should understand that God himself shall come down among the children of men, and shall redeem his people.

 2 And because he dwelleth in flesh he shall be called the Son of God, and having subjected the flesh to the will of the Father, being the Father and the Son—

 3 The Father, because he was conceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son—

 4 And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth.

_________________
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric

"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:15 am 
God

Joined: Mon May 07, 2012 2:43 pm
Posts: 1390
We learn something every day. In almost 50 years of studying Mormonism I have never heard a single Mormon, or Mormon apologist, refer to the Godhead (the three) as our God (single) in that way. While I don't claim to know all Mormon writings and could be wrong, gdemetz, I think you're making it up as you go along.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:08 am 
2nd Quorum of Seventy

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:07 pm
Posts: 701
Location: Vancouver Washington
[quote="Drifting"][quote="gdemetz"]I will just ignore all the tabloid stuff. Mittens, the so called Apostles Creed is not what the name implies. There was no such creed ever espoused by the apostles. Also, David is stating that God would not leave his (David's) soul in hell.

Better read that better
Acts 2:
King David quoted Jesus as saying: ‘I know the Lord is always with me. He is helping me. God’s mighty power supports me.
’No wonder my heart is filled with joy and my tongue shouts his praises! For I know all will be well with me in death—
’You will not leave my soul in hell or let the body of your Holy Son decay.
’You will give me back my life and give me wonderful joy in your presence.’
“Dear brothers, think! David wasn’t referring to himself when he spoke these words I have quoted, for he died and was buried, and his tomb is still here among us.
But he was a prophet, and knew God had promised with an unbreakable oath that one of David’s own descendants would be the Messiah and sit on David’s throne.
David was looking far into the future and predicting the Messiah’s resurrection, and saying that the Messiah’s soul would not be left in hell and his body would not decay.
He was speaking of Jesus, and we all are witnesses that Jesus rose from the dead.
“And now he sits on the throne of highest honor in heaven, next to God. And just as promised, the Father gave him the authority to send the Holy Spirit—with the results you are seeing and hearing today.
No, David was not speaking of himself in these words of his I have quoted, for he never ascended into the skies. Moreover, he further stated, ‘God spoke to my Lord, the Messiah, and said to him, Sit here in honor beside me until I bring your enemies into complete subjection.’

Would God call David his Holy Son ? , better read context better

Acts 13:
34 “For God had promised to bring him back to life again, no more to die. This is stated in the Scripture that says, ‘I will do for you the wonderful thing I promised David.’ 35 In another Psalm he explained more fully, saying, ‘God will not let his Holy One decay.’ 36 This was not a reference to David, for after David had served his generation according to the will of God, he died and was buried, and his body decayed. 37 No, it was a reference to another£—someone God brought back to life, whose body was not touched at all by the ravages of death

Acts 13:22
And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.

Do you think David a man after God's heart went to hell ? Crazy

• 2 Timothy 2:8
8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

_________________
Justice=getting what you deserve
Mercy=not getting what you deserve
Grace=Getting what U-Can never deserve


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:15 pm 
God

Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:59 am
Posts: 1681
You guys still don't get it, do you?! Albion, the Book of Mormon states "one God," and that is also on the witness statement as Mittens posted, but the Trinity as taught in the false Athenasian creed, which is believed now by apostate Christendom is a false mystical work of stupidity! Imagine this: Someone worshiping three marbles, and even though they are three separate and distinct marbles of different colors, they are worshiped as his "god." Later, his friend comes over and says to him that he believes in his "god" also, but he tells the first that all three marbles are really only just one, and they are all connected to each by some mystical substance, along with a lot of other BS which was completely irrational. What do you think that the first would think? I can tell you what he would think! He would think that his friend was ready for the funny farm!

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears, and they shall turn away their ears from the truth and shall be turned to FABLES."


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:24 pm 
2nd Quorum of Seventy

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:07 pm
Posts: 701
Location: Vancouver Washington
but the Trinity as taught in the false Athenasian creed, which is believed now by apostate Christendom is a false mystical work of stupidity!


Sounds like LDS leaders believe the Trinity

1. Discourses of Brigham Young, p.30
The Holy Ghost, we believe, is one of the characters that form the Trinity, or the Godhead.

1. Joseph F. Smith, Gospel Doctrine, p.61
Now I repeat-the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit, he constitutes the third person in the Trinity, the Godhead

1. Hugh B. Brown, The Abundant Life, p.312
In our Articles of Faith we declare our belief in God the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost-in other words, the Trinity. We accept the scriptural doctrine that they are separate and distinct personages. This is one distinguishing and, to some, disturbing doctrine of the Church.

1. James R. Clark, Messages of the First Presidency, Vol.4, p.264
From these statements, and from many others that might be quoted, it is clear that Adam and Christ are two persons-not the same Person. It is erroneous doctrine to consider them one and the same person, for Jesus is the Christ, a member of the Trinity, the God-head, and to whom Adam, the father of the human family upon this earth, is amenable. Adam will have to account for his stewardship to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, whose blood atones for the sins of those who have fallen by the transgression of Adam.
James R. Clark, Messages of the First Presidency, Vol.6, p.236


1. Hugh B. Brown, The Abundant Life, p.313
Surely this was not ventriloquism where Christ was speaking to and of himself. It was the Father introducing His Son. In this case, the members of the Holy Trinity manifested themselves, each in a different way, and each was distinct from the others. A similar event occurred on the Mount of Transfiguration when members of the Godhead were distinguished in the presence of Moses and Elias, and Peter, James, and John.
J. Reuben Clark Jr. Second Counselor to the LDS First Presidency speaking to diversified audience in the mid 1940s speaks of God in terms of the Trinity-God has revealed to us that he is the Father of all, and that he loves and cares forth righteous everywhere, and seeks ever to bring back the wayward to his ways. He has made known that Jesus is the Christ, the Only Begotten of the Father, the Redeemer of the World, the First Fruits of the Resurrection. He has shown to us that as Jesus died, lay in the tomb, and was resurrected, so shall it be with every son and daughter of God. He has manifested to us that he is a person, that Christ is another person, and that the Holy Ghost is a third person, and that these make the Trinity of the Godhead


Another explanation is found in Answers to Gospel Questions Vol. 3 pp 98-99 under Counsel given by President Charles W. Penrose
Now, some of our brethren have taken up quite a discussion as to the fulness of the everlasting gospel. We are told that the Book of Mormon contains the fulness of the gospel, that those who like to get up a dispute, say that the Book of Mormon does not contain any reference to the work of salvation for the dead, and that there are many other things pertaining to the gospel that are not developed in that book, and yet we are told that the book contains "the fulness of the everlasting gospel." well what is the fulnesspel? You read carefully the revelation in regard to the three glories, section 76, in the Doctrine and Covanants, and you find there defined what the gospel is, There God the Eternal Father, and Jesus Christ, his son, and the Holy Ghost, are held up as the three persons in the Trinity-the one God the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, all three being one God. When people believe in that doctrine and obey the ordinances which are spoken of in the same list of principals, you get the fulness of the gospel for this reason:
General Conference Report, April 1922, pp 27-28.

_________________
Justice=getting what you deserve
Mercy=not getting what you deserve
Grace=Getting what U-Can never deserve


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:54 pm 
God

Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:59 am
Posts: 1681
Your quote mining is very poor MIttens, and I am sure that they would not appreciate you trying to tell them what they believe, especially since you state it falsely! They clarified those statements by saying "God head"! let me state this one more time clearly so that there will be no doubt! WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE! WE BELIEVE IN WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES, AND THAT IS THE GODHEAD! WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ALL THE MARBLES ARE CONNECTED TOGETHER BY SOME MYSTICAL BS SUBSTANCE!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:47 am 
Founder & Visionary
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:07 pm
Posts: 9965
Location: Shady Acres Status: MODERATOR
Mittens wrote:
Joseph Smith Jr knew of a little Island NE of madascare on west African coast developed in 1500 with capital called Nephi

Madagascar is off Africa's east coast, not its west coast.

_________________
"Apparently it takes LDS Inc. about 5 to 10 years to forget how much it hurt the last time it shot itself in the foot."

--Brother of Jerry, Recovery from Mormonism


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:28 am 
2nd Quorum of Seventy

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:07 pm
Posts: 701
Location: Vancouver Washington
Dr. Shades wrote:
Mittens wrote:
Joseph Smith Jr knew of a little Island NE of madascare on west African coast developed in 1500 with capital called Nephi

Madagascar is off Africa's east coast, not its west coast.


Your right it's on right side of Africa on a map, I checked it out one day at School

_________________
Justice=getting what you deserve
Mercy=not getting what you deserve
Grace=Getting what U-Can never deserve


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:36 am 
2nd Quorum of Seventy

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:07 pm
Posts: 701
Location: Vancouver Washington
gdemetz wrote:
Your quote mining is very poor MIttens, and I am sure that they would not appreciate you trying to tell them what they believe, especially since you state it falsely! They clarified those statements by saying "God head"! let me state this one more time clearly so that there will be no doubt! WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE! WE BELIEVE IN WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES, AND THAT IS THE GODHEAD! WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ALL THE MARBLES ARE CONNECTED TOGETHER BY SOME MYSTICAL BS SUBSTANCE!!!


In Evangelic Christianity, God, Godhead, Substance, Essence and Being all have same meaning, that's wht there always singular and persons is always plural

an example in the Bible would be thin in Genesis

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over

Notice God "singular" let "us" and "our" plural"

_________________
Justice=getting what you deserve
Mercy=not getting what you deserve
Grace=Getting what U-Can never deserve


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:47 pm 
tired, less active investigator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:07 am
Posts: 6794
Location: Hungary
Mittens wrote:

In Evangelic Christianity, God, Godhead, Substance, Essence and Being all have same meaning, that's wht there always singular and persons is always plural

an example in the Bible would be thin in Genesis

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over

Notice God "singular" let "us" and "our" plural"

For me, it is a simple regal plural.

_________________
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:33 am 
God

Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:52 am
Posts: 7306
gdemetz wrote:
Your quote mining is very poor MIttens, and I am sure that they would not appreciate you trying to tell them what they believe, especially since you state it falsely! They clarified those statements by saying "God head"! let me state this one more time clearly so that there will be no doubt! WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE! WE BELIEVE IN WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES, AND THAT IS THE GODHEAD! WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ALL THE MARBLES ARE CONNECTED TOGETHER BY SOME MYSTICAL BS SUBSTANCE!!!


So you're not Christian after all...thanks for clearing that up....

_________________
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric

"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:03 pm 
God

Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:59 am
Posts: 1681
Mittens...hello?! Of course it's plural! The three marbles I mentioned were plural too, but they are not all of the same silly mystical substance! Mittens, what is it that you don't understand about what I stated?! If you ever here me use the word trinity, trust me, it will definitely not mean the same thing as if you used the term! If I use it, it will not mean the the Godhead is bound together by some mystical glue to make them magically all one as taught in the false apostate creed! It will mean that they are three distinct different personages who make up one Godhead, or God if you want to call it that!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:47 pm 
2nd Quorum of Seventy

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:07 pm
Posts: 701
Location: Vancouver Washington
gdemetz wrote:
Mittens...hello?! Of course it's plural! The three marbles I mentioned were plural too, but they are not all of the same silly mystical substance! Mittens, what is it that you don't understand about what I stated?! If you ever here me use the word trinity, trust me, it will definitely not mean the same thing as if you used the term! If I use it, it will not mean the the Godhead is bound together by some mystical glue to make them magically all one as taught in the false apostate creed! It will mean that they are three distinct different personages who make up one Godhead, or God if you want to call it that!



The problem with using the word substance you need to know the Latin meaning for this word


Latin Word List » Substantia


Definition: Substance, essence, means of subsistence, property.

The Latin Word Substantia has many meanings, mainly: substance, essence, means of subsistence, property.

Our Latin Fathers used this term to mean God The Father , Jesus, and the Holy Spirit shared the same property or Family which is God or Godhead. So three separate and distinct persons represent the One God, God head, Substance , Being or Essence. Always singular yet persons is alwasys plural or three.


gdemetz you need to know what your talking about when pontificating

_________________
Justice=getting what you deserve
Mercy=not getting what you deserve
Grace=Getting what U-Can never deserve


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:40 pm 
God

Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:59 am
Posts: 1681
Mittens, you have just given a very sickly apologetic excuse for the so called trinity! It is you that doesn't know what you are talking about! I have been knowing for years what the false apostate creed of the trinity teaches as does About.com Christianity!

"The word "Trinity" comes from the Latin noun "trinitas" MEANING "THREE ARE ONE." THE TRINITY EXPRESSES THE BELIEF THAT GOD IS ONE BEING MADE UP OF THREE DISTINCT PERSONS WHO EXIST IS COEQUAL ESSENCE AND CO ETERNAL COMMUNION AS THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT."

Note the ONE BEING made up of three distinct persons!!! The truth is what I have been stating and what the Mormon prophets have stated all along, and that is that there are THREE DISTINCT BEINGS in one Godhead!!!!!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:06 am 
2nd Quorum of Seventy

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:07 pm
Posts: 701
Location: Vancouver Washington
gdemetz wrote:
Mittens, you have just given a very sickly apologetic excuse for the so called trinity! It is you that doesn't know what you are talking about! I have been knowing for years what the false apostate creed of the trinity teaches as does About.com Christianity!

"The word "Trinity" comes from the Latin noun "trinitas" MEANING "THREE ARE ONE." THE TRINITY EXPRESSES THE BELIEF THAT GOD IS ONE BEING MADE UP OF THREE DISTINCT PERSONS WHO EXIST IS COEQUAL ESSENCE AND CO ETERNAL COMMUNION AS THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT."

Note the ONE BEING made up of three distinct persons!!! The truth is what I have been stating and what the Mormon prophets have stated all along, and that is that there are THREE DISTINCT BEINGS in one Godhead!!!!!!!



Wrong again, Joseph Smith taught

Joseph Smith said the Trinity is three gods.
"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods," (Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370).


Three separate personages — Father, Son, and Holy Ghost — comprise the Godhead. As each of these persons is a God, it is evident, from this standpoint alone, that a plurality of Gods exists. To us, speaking in the proper finite sense, these three are the only Gods we worship. But in addition there is an infinite number of holy personages, drawn from worlds without number, who have passed on to exaltation and are thus gods.

Author: Bruce R. McConkie
Source: Mormon Doctrine
Chapter: 44
Page: 576

_________________
Justice=getting what you deserve
Mercy=not getting what you deserve
Grace=Getting what U-Can never deserve


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:20 pm 
God

Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:59 am
Posts: 1681
Hello Mittens?!? You are apparently understanding very little of what I am stating! Yes, that is what I have been stating! They are three Gods which make up the one Godhead (or God) which we worship!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:29 pm 
2nd Quorum of Seventy

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:07 pm
Posts: 701
Location: Vancouver Washington
[quote="gdemetz"]Hello Mittens?!? You are apparently understanding very little of what I am stating! Yes, that is what I have been stating! They are three Gods which make up the one Godhead (or God) which we worship!!![/quote

Why does McConkie say you only worship the Father in his BYU speach, is God the author of confusion or is Mormonism completely void of God





Our Relationship with the Lord
BRUCE R. MCCONKIE
Now, it is no secret that many false and vain and foolish things are being taught in the sectarian world and even among us about our need to gain a special relationship with the Lord Jesus. I shall summarize the true doctrine in this field and invite erring teachers and beguiled students to repent and believe the accepted gospel verities as I shall set them forth.

We worship the Father and him only and no one else.
We do not worship the Son, and we do not worship the Holy Ghost. I know perfectly well what the scriptures say about worshipping Christ and Jehovah, but they are speaking in an entirely different sense--the sense of standing in awe and being reverentially grateful to him who has redeemed us. Worship in the true and saving sense is reserved for God the first, the Creator.

Christ worked out his own salvation by worshiping the Father.
After the Firstborn of the Father, while yet a spirit being, had gained power and
intelligence that made him like unto God; after he had become, under the Father, the Creator of worlds without number; after he had reigned on the throne of eternal power as the Lord Omnipotent--after all this he yet had to gain a mortal and then an immortal body.

http://speeches.byu.edu/reader/reader.php?id=6843


[

_________________
Justice=getting what you deserve
Mercy=not getting what you deserve
Grace=Getting what U-Can never deserve


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Contradiction in the Book of Mormon?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:32 pm 
God

Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:59 am
Posts: 1681
Of course, we worship the Father and pray to the Father! That is what Christ taught, isn't it?!?


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 317 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  
Revival Theme By Brandon Designs By B.Design-Studio © 2007-2008 Brandon
Revival Theme Based off SubLite By Echo © 2007-2008 Echo
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group