just me wrote:
it seems that since "morality" comes from God, it would be an error to claim that His commands are criminal.
They were criminal by the definition. Polygamy was against the law....making it a CRIME.
God said in the D&C that follwing him would never require the breaking of the law of the land. Hmmmm.
arguably Joseph had the revelation in 1843, maybe 1831...lets stick with 1843.....
Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act - 1862
Poland Act - 1874
Reynolds v. United States 1878
Edmunds Act - 1882
me thinks the timeline is not so fishy. The "law of the land" was post-revelation.
To claim that He would have you commit a despicable crime would be putting your self, or rather natural man's law, before God's Law. If this were the case, then surely you would be hardly convinced that you were visited by an angel at all.
Surely Abraham and Isaac provide the simple answer to this simple question. If you "know" it is a commandment from God, you would be compelled to obey that command, especially in the light of the "struggle" it would present to your well-established habit of monogamy.
I am curious as to why one would "hope for the courage" to contradict God, seems like an altogether selfish and hopeless position to desire.
So, you're saying that if a voice in your head said to kill your child that you would do it? If the Abraham story is true than god is a jerk and a bit unhinged.
No, if it was voice in my head, then likely i would not have another voice which could override such a command. However, if God commanded it, then the voice in my head would have decide the course of action......and if it was in accordance with Moroni 7, then likely the child would die. Are you proposing that the supreme law is bio-genetically based? Are you proposing that no action can supersede biological impulses?
If God asks criminal things of people, or things that go against the light of christ, than God is a jackass that deserves to be contradicted. The god described in D&C 132 is an abuser. D&C 132 is spiritually and emotionally abusive.
Welcome to the board, subgenius!
If it is truly criminal and truly against the light of Christ, then it is not coming from God....just as it is impossible for God to lie.
With regards to polygamy, neither of these have been proven to have occurred at the time of revelation.
and thank you for the welcome....nice to be here.