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 Post subject: "The Wounded Women of Polygamy Culture" MTC/Bishop Aftermath
PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:14 am 
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https://sistersquorum.com/2018/04/13/th ... y-culture/

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I could use the scriptures to demonstrate that every time polygamy was enacted among God’s people, it caused great harm. I could point out that the Book of Mormon speaks against polygamy. But I’ll leave that to your personal study. Instead, let me speak to your souls: if something is physically, emotionally, and spiritually crippling to another human being, it is not designed by God.

That’s the measuring stick you need to use. Not a conference talk. Not any handbook. Not the limited vision of any church leader. I repeat: if something is physically, emotionally, and spiritually crippling to one of God’s children, God did not design it.

I’ve lived a charmed life. I’ve never had reason to go to a bishop with stories of abuse. But I have lots of reasons—each a sister injured–to shout that all of this recent mess is entangled in the church’s bold, but masked, acceptance of polygamy and the way it objectifies women like a notation in an accounts receivable column, the way it winks at men who don’t control their sexual desires.

My dear sisters, hear me. Right now, in this moment. You don’t need priesthood to claim your authority or your autonomy. Rise. The men will follow us, or they will go to hell all on their own.


Pretty strong calling out, I think, and one that lends an empowering voice to abuse victims.


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 Post subject: Re: "The Wounded Women of Polygamy Culture" MTC/Bishop After
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:04 pm 
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I am more impressed than even surprised. This is good Mormon speak to get women to rise.


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 Post subject: Re: "The Wounded Women of Polygamy Culture" MTC/Bishop After
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:53 am 
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candygal wrote:
I am more impressed than even surprised. This is good Mormon speak to get women to rise.

I agree. There are a variety of writers on that blog, but they want to make it accessible to women including believing Mormons.


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 Post subject: Re: "The Wounded Women of Polygamy Culture" MTC/Bishop After
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:28 pm 
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How exactly is polygamy physically crippling to women?

How is it that all Judeo Christian religions don't endorse polygamy at least at some point in time given the Old Testament and the very heritage of humanity.

There never was nor is anything 50/50 when it comes to male/female relationships. All is fair in love and war. At least that's what I've seen from most people.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:52 pm 
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ajax18 wrote:
How exactly is polygamy physically crippling to women?

I imagine being a child bride would be limiting, as would adhering to rigid expectations imposed on women in that culture.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:12 am 
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I imagine being a child bride would be limiting, as would adhering to rigid expectations imposed on women in that culture.


The child bride thing is awful IMO, though I still don't quite see how it's physically crippling.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:39 am 
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ajax18 wrote:
How exactly is polygamy physically crippling to women?

How is it that all Judeo Christian religions don't endorse polygamy at least at some point in time given the Old Testament and the very heritage of humanity.

There never was nor is anything 50/50 when it comes to male/female relationships. All is fair in love and war. At least that's what I've seen from most people.


First, the author is referring to Mormon polygamy, where women are told they must enter into polygamy in order to be saved.

Do you get it now?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:41 am 
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ajax18 wrote:
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I imagine being a child bride would be limiting, as would adhering to rigid expectations imposed on women in that culture.


The child bride thing is awful IMO, though I still don't quite see how it's physically crippling.


You don't think that a child experiencing sexual intercourse (which is, ftr, rape) with a fully grown man cannot be physically crippling?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:15 am 
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Meadowchik wrote:
You don't think that a child experiencing sexual intercourse (which is, ftr, rape) with a fully grown man cannot be physically crippling?
Probably also worth adding that it isn't uncommon for the affects of depression (something probably quite common among child brides) can often manifest itself in very physical ways. Maybe your body is "technically" okay but if the psychological damage done to you results in panic attacks, debilitating migraines, extreme fatigue, joint pain or any of the other plethora of physical symptoms of depression it can be equally as damaging.

Thanks for sharing this, Meadowchik. Was a worthwhile read.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:22 am 
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Xenophon wrote:
Meadowchik wrote:
You don't think that a child experiencing sexual intercourse (which is, ftr, rape) with a fully grown man cannot be physically crippling?
Probably also worth adding that it isn't uncommon for the affects of depression (something probably quite common among child brides) can often manifest itself in very physical ways. Maybe your body is "technically" okay but if the psychological damage done to you results in panic attacks, debilitating migraines, extreme fatigue, joint pain or any of the other plethora of physical symptoms of depression it can be equally as damaging.

Thanks for sharing this, Meadowchik. Was a worthwhile read.


My pleasure. The author Deborah is a stand-up lady.


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